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Stinky The Clown

(68,964 posts)
Sat Aug 30, 2025, 08:38 PM Aug 2025

CHF

Bet on it

And there is some hope. After consulting Dr Google I was referred to Professor Ai.


There's no single answer to "how long until CHF kills you" because it depends entirely on the individual's overall health (obviously shitty), the severity of the condition (looks bad to me), and the effectiveness of treatment (I'm not a doc, so who's to say?). However, data shows that approximately half of people with heart failure die within five years of diagnosis (he has to have had it two or three years, minimum), and for those in advanced (Stage D) heart failure, the life expectancy is often less than one year. Early treatment(maybe), lifestyle changes (in my best Judy Tanuta, voice: It Could Happen) medications, and surgery can help manage the condition and potentially improve life expectancy.
Factors influencing life expectancy:
Stage of Heart Failure:
Stage A (High risk): 97% 5-year survival.
Stage B (Structural heart disease): 96% 5-year survival.
Stage C (Symptoms present): 75% 5-year survival.
Stage D (Advanced heart failure): 20% 5-year survival.
Age:
Younger individuals with CHF generally have a more promising outlook.
Other Health Conditions:
Conditions like diabetes, high blood pressure, and coronary heart disease can negatively impact life expectancy.
Lifestyle Changes:
Adopting healthier habits, such as a low-sodium diet and regular exercise, can help slow the progression of the disease.
What to do:
Seek Early Medical Treatment:
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Early intervention can significantly improve the chances of slowing or even reversing the condition, according to New Jersey Cardiology Associates.
Discuss Treatment Options with Your Doctor:
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Work with your healthcare team to create a personalized treatment plan that may include medication, lifestyle modifications, and potentially surgery.
Understand Palliative and Hospice Care:
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These forms of care focus on improving quality of life and managing symptoms, not just on life-saving measures. Hospice care is typically for those with advanced heart failure and a life expectancy of six months or less, according to Amedisys.
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rubbersole

(11,277 posts)
1. Put his ashes in a Happy Meal box and bury it next to Ivana in that weed patch.
Sat Aug 30, 2025, 09:08 PM
Aug 2025

(When I typed "ashes" auto-correct suggested "asses". Well, that too....)

erronis

(24,541 posts)
2. Heart failure is such a nebulous term. It sounds like your heart has failed even tho it's still ticking.
Sat Aug 30, 2025, 09:12 PM
Aug 2025

My cardiologist said that he added it to my chart because it was a billing code (ICD) - I guess they can up-code and get more payments.

Nice to add a few reference links so people understand what you're talking about.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heart_failure

Heart failure (HF), also known as congestive heart failure (CHF), is a syndrome caused by an impairment in the heart's ability to fill with and pump blood.

Although symptoms vary based on which side of the heart is affected, HF typically presents with shortness of breath, excessive fatigue, and bilateral leg swelling.[3] The severity of the heart failure is mainly decided based on ejection fraction and also measured by the severity of symptoms.[11][7] Other conditions that have symptoms similar to heart failure include obesity, kidney failure, liver disease, anemia, and thyroid disease.[7]

Common causes of heart failure include coronary artery disease, heart attack, high blood pressure, atrial fibrillation, valvular heart disease, excessive alcohol consumption, infection, and cardiomyopathy.[4][6] These cause heart failure by altering the structure or the function of the heart or in some cases both.[6] There are different types of heart failure: right-sided heart failure, which affects the right heart, left-sided heart failure, which affects the left heart, and biventricular heart failure, which affects both sides of the heart.[12] Left-sided heart failure may be present with a reduced reduced ejection fraction or with a preserved ejection fraction.[10] Heart failure is not the same as cardiac arrest, in which blood flow stops completely due to the failure of the heart to pump.[13][14]

The risk of death in the first year after diagnosis is about 35%, while the risk of death in the second year is less than 10% in those still alive.[10] The risk of death is comparable to that of some cancers.[10]


https://scitechdaily.com/this-serious-heart-condition-now-affects-over-10-million-u-s-adults-startling-new-study-reveals/
https://emedicine.medscape.com/article/163062-overview
https://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/nice-recommends-earlier-treatments-chronic-heart-failure-2025a1000flk
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heart_failure_with_preserved_ejection_fraction

I've got plenty of other comorbitiies so I don't worry too much about just one....

Midnight Writer

(25,752 posts)
3. My Dad had it for over 20 years. He lived into his 90s.
Sat Aug 30, 2025, 09:14 PM
Aug 2025

During that time, we rushed him to the emergency room over a dozen times, usually because he had trouble breathing. They would stabilize him and send him home, usually withing 48 hours.

He had several heart attacks during this time, as well as bypass surgery. But he mostly just shrugged off the heart attacks. From damage to his heart, the doctors said he probably had several mild heart attacks in the past and had not gone for medical attention. So it is hard telling how long he had actually been having trouble.

He told me it felt like someone was squeezing him around the chest to the point it was painful and he had trouble breathing. He said he would just sit in his recliner and wait for it to pass.

He got himself into trouble a lot by refusing to follow doctor's instructions, especially diet and exercise. I reckon Trump would display the same obstinance.

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