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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsAsking those in the know, Just what powers do every states Govenors have to
deal with their own National Guard people, and what powers do they have to control ICE invasion? Can they demand ICE not block roads for illegal traffic stops? Any OTHER powers they could do ti disrupt ICE? TY for you response.
mucifer
(25,729 posts)Stating the agents can't wear face masks and the Chicago Police cannot work under ICE or the feds.
bluestarone
(22,466 posts)I was just curious just what rights (power) Democratic Governors have. For instance, i'm wondering if these governors could take control of their own national guard, BEFORE TSF tries to?
DetroitLegalBeagle
(2,527 posts)Once title 10 orders are legally transmitted, the affected National Guard units are no longer under State chain of command and they report to the Federal chain at that point.
think like you that the governor has a right to demand the police in the state not to cooperate with national guard or ICE. I also think a mayor should have the same right.
DetroitLegalBeagle
(2,527 posts)Governors have full control of their National Guards, unless they are federalized, at which point they are controlled by the Feds. This cannot be blocked.
For ICE, states can forbid state and local personnel from enforcing federal law. The Feds cannot take control of state or local police forces. States cannot regulate how federal forces carry out their official duties, but they can charge individual federal officers for crimes committed outside of their official duties. So for example, state or local rules banning ICE from wearing masks during their operations will be ignored and not enforceable. But if an ICE agent gets pulled over driving drunk before or after an operation they can absolutely get charged with a DUI.
Fiendish Thingy
(24,098 posts)But can refuse to cooperate.
The national guard is always potentially under the presidents control.
bluestarone
(22,466 posts)Follow ICE agents, just to protect their citizenry?
Fiendish Thingy
(24,098 posts)If a state or local LEO saw ICE arresting someone, they could not step in and stop the arrest.
What Id like to see is some sort of gray area intervention where, if a group of armed, masked men was spotted, they were detained until they could show proof they were federal agents- every single one of them. The intervention, location, and federal agents identities would then be posted to a police blotter on the internet as part of the public record.
bluestarone
(22,466 posts)For illegal assaulting A citizen that was unlawfully beaten? Plus anything else these two witnessed.
Fiendish Thingy
(24,098 posts)Two local LEOs attempting to arrest a single ICE agent among a group of ICE agents?
First of all, LEOs tend not to arrest each other.
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