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bluestarone

(22,466 posts)
Sun Aug 31, 2025, 10:02 AM Aug 2025

Asking those in the know, Just what powers do every states Govenors have to

deal with their own National Guard people, and what powers do they have to control ICE invasion? Can they demand ICE not block roads for illegal traffic stops? Any OTHER powers they could do ti disrupt ICE? TY for you response.

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Asking those in the know, Just what powers do every states Govenors have to (Original Post) bluestarone Aug 2025 OP
Illinois is taking legal action. Also, the Mayor of Chicago has signed some executive orders mucifer Aug 2025 #1
TY, That's what needs to happen in every Democratic state. bluestarone Aug 2025 #2
Federal call ups override State call ups. DetroitLegalBeagle Aug 2025 #6
I would Rebl2 Aug 2025 #8
Not a lot due to the Supremacy Clause of the Constitution DetroitLegalBeagle Aug 2025 #3
They cannot interfere with federal agents Fiendish Thingy Aug 2025 #4
Well, could the Governor order some agents undercover to bluestarone Aug 2025 #5
How do you mean "protect"? Fiendish Thingy Aug 2025 #7
Well, basically, i was thinking that if undercover agent could arrest ICE agents (need to b two of them working together bluestarone Aug 2025 #9
Not likely to happen Fiendish Thingy Aug 2025 #10

mucifer

(25,729 posts)
1. Illinois is taking legal action. Also, the Mayor of Chicago has signed some executive orders
Sun Aug 31, 2025, 10:05 AM
Aug 2025

Stating the agents can't wear face masks and the Chicago Police cannot work under ICE or the feds.

bluestarone

(22,466 posts)
2. TY, That's what needs to happen in every Democratic state.
Sun Aug 31, 2025, 10:11 AM
Aug 2025

I was just curious just what rights (power) Democratic Governors have. For instance, i'm wondering if these governors could take control of their own national guard, BEFORE TSF tries to?

DetroitLegalBeagle

(2,527 posts)
6. Federal call ups override State call ups.
Sun Aug 31, 2025, 10:25 AM
Aug 2025

Once title 10 orders are legally transmitted, the affected National Guard units are no longer under State chain of command and they report to the Federal chain at that point.

Rebl2

(17,933 posts)
8. I would
Sun Aug 31, 2025, 11:02 AM
Aug 2025

think like you that the governor has a right to demand the police in the state not to cooperate with national guard or ICE. I also think a mayor should have the same right.

DetroitLegalBeagle

(2,527 posts)
3. Not a lot due to the Supremacy Clause of the Constitution
Sun Aug 31, 2025, 10:13 AM
Aug 2025

Governors have full control of their National Guards, unless they are federalized, at which point they are controlled by the Feds. This cannot be blocked.

For ICE, states can forbid state and local personnel from enforcing federal law. The Feds cannot take control of state or local police forces. States cannot regulate how federal forces carry out their official duties, but they can charge individual federal officers for crimes committed outside of their official duties. So for example, state or local rules banning ICE from wearing masks during their operations will be ignored and not enforceable. But if an ICE agent gets pulled over driving drunk before or after an operation they can absolutely get charged with a DUI.

Fiendish Thingy

(24,098 posts)
4. They cannot interfere with federal agents
Sun Aug 31, 2025, 10:14 AM
Aug 2025

But can refuse to cooperate.

The national guard is always potentially under the president’s control.

bluestarone

(22,466 posts)
5. Well, could the Governor order some agents undercover to
Sun Aug 31, 2025, 10:19 AM
Aug 2025

Follow ICE agents, just to protect their citizenry?

Fiendish Thingy

(24,098 posts)
7. How do you mean "protect"?
Sun Aug 31, 2025, 10:55 AM
Aug 2025

If a state or local LEO saw ICE arresting someone, they could not step in and stop the arrest.

What I’d like to see is some sort of gray area intervention where, if a group of armed, masked men was spotted, they were detained until they could show proof they were federal agents- every single one of them. The intervention, location, and federal agents’ identities would then be posted to a “police blotter” on the internet as part of the public record.

bluestarone

(22,466 posts)
9. Well, basically, i was thinking that if undercover agent could arrest ICE agents (need to b two of them working together
Sun Aug 31, 2025, 11:06 AM
Aug 2025

For illegal assaulting A citizen that was unlawfully beaten? Plus anything else these two witnessed.

Fiendish Thingy

(24,098 posts)
10. Not likely to happen
Sun Aug 31, 2025, 11:10 AM
Aug 2025

Two local LEO’s attempting to arrest a single ICE agent among a group of ICE agents?

First of all, LEO’s tend not to arrest each other.

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