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LetMyPeopleVote

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Sun Aug 31, 2025, 11:18 AM Aug 2025

The Nobel Prize and a Testy Phone Call: How the Trump-Modi Relationship Unraveled (gift link)

President Trump’s repeated claims about having “solved” the India-Pakistan war infuriated Prime Minister Narendra Modi of India. And that was only the beginning.




https://www.nytimes.com/2025/08/30/us/politics/trump-modi-india.html?unlocked_article_code=1.iE8.ZUkL.sALtHdC3aNm1&smid=url-share

Prime Minister Narendra Modi of India was losing patience with President Trump.

Mr. Trump had been saying — repeatedly, publicly, exuberantly — that he had “solved” the military conflict between India and Pakistan, a dispute that dates back more than 75 years and is far deeper and more complicated than Mr. Trump was making it out to be.

During a phone call on June 17, Mr. Trump brought it up again, saying how proud he was of ending the military escalation. He mentioned that Pakistan was going to nominate him for the Nobel Peace Prize, an honor for which he had been openly campaigning. The not-so-subtle implication, according to people familiar with the call, was that Mr. Modi should do the same.

The Indian leader bristled. He told Mr. Trump that U.S. involvement had nothing to do with the recent cease-fire. It had been settled directly between India and Pakistan.....

Just weeks after the June phone call, and with trade talks dragging on, Mr. Trump startled India by announcing that imports from the country would be subjected to a tariff of 25 percent. And on Wednesday, he slapped India with an additional 25 percent tariff for buying Russian oil, adding up to a crushing 50 percent.

Mr. Modi, who once called Mr. Trump “a true friend,” was officially on the outs. After telling Mr. Modi that he would travel to India later this year for the Quad summit, Mr. Trump no longer has plans to visit in the fall, according to people familiar with the president’s schedule......

“I won’t get a Nobel Peace Prize for this, I won’t get a Nobel Peace Prize for stopping the War between India and Pakistan,” Mr. Trump posted. “No, I won’t get a Nobel Peace Prize no matter what I do.”

trump's desire for a Nobel Peace Prize is sad and has hurt our relations with India. Modi is attending a conference in China right now,
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3. Trump's tariff tantrum was because modi didn't thank him (as trump would say, "kiss my ass.")
Sun Aug 31, 2025, 01:15 PM
Aug 2025

LetMyPeopleVote

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7. Trump pushes India closer to China and Russia, adding to his diplomatic failures
Wed Sep 3, 2025, 12:44 PM
Sep 2025

It’s not easy for a president to get friends, foes and partners to leave the United States behind simultaneously, but Trump is managing to pull it off.

As Trump manages to bring India, Russia, and China together, in a generational diplomatic failure, remember:

Part of this mess is the result of Trump leaning on Modi to nominate him for a Nobel Peace Prize. www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddo...

Steve Benen (@stevebenen.com) 2025-09-02T20:16:12.411Z

https://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/maddowblog/trump-pushes-india-closer-china-russia-adding-diplomatic-failures-rcna228520

Take India, for example. The New York Times reported over the holiday weekend on the souring relationship between Trump and Indian Prime Minister Narendra Modi and what happened after the American president repeatedly and falsely claimed credit for ending a conflict between India and Pakistan.

During a phone call on June 17, Mr. Trump brought it up again, saying how proud he was of ending the military escalation. He mentioned that Pakistan was going to nominate him for the Nobel Peace Prize, an honor for which he had been openly campaigning. The not-so-subtle implication, according to people familiar with the call, was that Mr. Modi should do the same. The Indian leader bristled. He told Mr. Trump that U.S. involvement had nothing to do with the recent cease-fire. It had been settled directly between India and Pakistan.


According to the Times’ report, which hasn’t been independently verified by MSNBC or NBC News, Trump “largely brushed off” Modi’s correction, “but the disagreement — and Mr. Modi’s refusal to engage on the Nobel — has played an outsize role in the souring relationship between the two leaders.”

In the days and weeks that followed that June call, Trump surprised India with the imposition of harsh trade tariffs and scrapped plans to travel to India later this year for a diplomatic gathering.

Soon after, as NBC News reported, Modi found some new friends.

A private car ride with Vladimir Putin may not be as special as President Donald Trump thought. With a backseat bromance of their own, as well as hand-holding and hugs, the Russian leader, his Indian counterpart, Narendra Modi, and their host, Chinese leader Xi Jinping, put on a display Monday that seemed designed to turn heads in Washington.


None of this is subtle: For all of Trump’s preoccupation with “respect” on the international stage, the footage out of Tianjin showed the leaders of China, Russia and India, all smiles and literally hand-in-hand, sending a clear message to the White House: “We’ve decided we don’t need you after all.”......

As Kapil Komireddi explained in an op-ed for the Times:

Bill Clinton, who laid the foundation of the modern U.S.-India partnership, called the two democracies ‘natural allies.’ George W. Bush described them as ‘brothers in the cause of human liberty.’ Barack Obama and Joe Biden cast the relationship as one of the defining global compacts of this century. To Washington, India was a vast emerging market, a potential counterweight to China, a key partner in maintaining Indo-Pacific security and a rising power whose democratic identity would bolster a rules-based international order.


India, Komireddi added, had shed its Cold War suspicions of Washington “and moved steadily closer to the United States.”

And then Trump set the relationship on fire, to the delight of China. The result is a generational fiasco that’s still unfolding before our eyes.

LetMyPeopleVote

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8. Trump imposed 50% tariffs on India because Modi wouldn't lie and give him credit for ending a war he didn't end
Sun Sep 7, 2025, 11:43 AM
Sep 2025
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