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bigtree

(94,672 posts)
Sun Aug 31, 2025, 03:43 PM Aug 2025

Let's get something straight. Dems who are fighting back are doing so with Dem majority legislatures

...that's what gives them the most moxie right now, and that's also why they're getting exposure.

Their strength isn't about some fighting words or clever post, as much as their ultimate influence lies with their ability to produce the results that EVERY Democratic majority in history has accomplished for Americans. This isn't an election campaign.

This is about governance; the ability to transform words and agitation into legislative action, which is only possible with a working majority. Losing sight of that simple fact is the real threat in the next election cycle (which is right now).

So many takes on what our Democratic governors are doing to respond to the redistricting threats from republican states, and on how they're responding to the direct threats on their own authority have projected those expectations on a Democratic membership in the House and Senate in which voters failed to provide legislators who fight as well as anyone with the numbers necessary to do much of anything except talk and write letters.

No subpoena power; no way to schedule hearings or sufficient numbers to advance bills; no way to organize even a floor vote with our own numbers of legislators.

You want a fighting Democratic majority that gets noticed? Vote in a damn majority.

There is no other method of advancing concerns in this binary political system divided between Democrats and a criminal party and president. We can all argue and organize coalitions of support in a democratic system that respects the balance of power.

More importantly, for those who are celebrating the fighting spirit and result of Dem governors while casting aspersions on Dems in Congress fighting back with the virtual nothing voters gave them, all of your differences with the Dem leadership can be recognized, addressed, and likely resolved in a Democratic majority.

Those dissatisfied with this party member or the other face a bleak future of derision and acrimony without end, without resolution, if we fail to elect enough Democrats to form a majority. They're certainly entitled to all of that agitation, but without the legislative vehicles come with a Democratic majority it will be impossible to transform that agitation against our leaders into action.

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Let's get something straight. Dems who are fighting back are doing so with Dem majority legislatures (Original Post) bigtree Aug 2025 OP
In NC our governor and our AG have been somewhat successful in fighting back despite GOP legislature dsc Aug 2025 #1
same with our Dem minority in Congress bigtree Aug 2025 #2
Valid point. N/T malaise Aug 2025 #3
Thank you for this Hekate Aug 2025 #4
All true. The big issue now is gerrymandering the Congress so that no matter how . . . CousinIT Aug 2025 #5
and securing voting equipment and voting sites bigtree Sep 2025 #6
Thank you! betsuni Sep 2025 #7

dsc

(53,445 posts)
1. In NC our governor and our AG have been somewhat successful in fighting back despite GOP legislature
Sun Aug 31, 2025, 03:45 PM
Aug 2025

of course their effectiveness is limited due to that legislature.

bigtree

(94,672 posts)
2. same with our Dem minority in Congress
Sun Aug 31, 2025, 03:48 PM
Aug 2025

...blocking things in the Senate that would have advanced without the filibuster rules.

Much less with the performative stuff, execept, perhaps stretching out judicial confirmations and blue slips.

Hekate

(100,133 posts)
4. Thank you for this
Sun Aug 31, 2025, 04:09 PM
Aug 2025

We’re having a test out here in California. Newsom’s fighting back, and after some hesitation I fully back him on the gerrymandering issue.

But here’s a thing: most people don’t pay as close attention as we do here. So far I have received three flyers in the mail and have seen ads on tv — all of for a No vote, and all of them using our own words against us. If I didn’t know what I actually do know, I would furiously write off Newsom as a dirty governor.

This is going to be very tough.

CousinIT

(12,753 posts)
5. All true. The big issue now is gerrymandering the Congress so that no matter how . . .
Sun Aug 31, 2025, 04:12 PM
Aug 2025

. . . Unpopular the orange turd and his cult’s asinine policies are, and even when hoards vote against them, they still retain power.

bigtree

(94,672 posts)
6. and securing voting equipment and voting sites
Mon Sep 1, 2025, 07:52 PM
Sep 2025

...it's going to be wild with Trump actively interfering with troops and his phony EO, him knowing that no matter the offense, if they can get on the board it's our challenge to get them off.

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