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What prompted me to ask ChatGPT this question?
Friday's episode of "Star Trek: Strange New Worlds," and of course, AI's ongoing takeover of the music and movie industries.
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ChatGPT's Response:
If a society fully surrenders its culture to AI, several shifts follow:
1. Control of Storytelling and Meaning
Culture lives in stories, art, rituals, and shared memory. If AI becomes the primary generator, the stories and aesthetics that shape identity no longer come from human experience but from algorithms trained on past data. Over time, originality and lived perspective can thin out, replaced by iterative outputs optimized for attention.
2. Standardization of Expression
AI tends to flatten diversity by blending inputs into patterns. Music, film, writing, and even slang could converge into a narrower band of "average taste," making cultures less distinct. Local nuance risks dilution when global AI-driven platforms dominate content creation.
3. Shift in Authority
Traditionally, cultural authority comes from elders, artists, thinkers, or communities. With AI in charge, algorithms become arbiters of what is valued, remembered, and repeated. Decisions about which art, history, or traditions are preserved or erased can move outside human hands.
4. Acceleration of Cultural Feedback Loops
AI can produce vast volumes of culture instantly. Instead of decades-long cycles of artistic evolution, we may see rapid over-saturation and burnout. Trends could flash and collapse before communities meaningfully absorb or contribute to them.
5. Risk of Homogenization vs. Fragmentation
Homogenization: One globalized AI-culture, smoothed into a monoculture.
Fragmentation: Countless micro-cultures generated on demand, tailored to individuals, leaving little shared ground for collective identity.
6. Memory and Authenticity
If archives, histories, and creative works are curated or generated by AI, distinguishing between authentic human culture and synthetic invention could blur. "What was real?" may become a permanent cultural question.
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Second Question to ChatGPT:
What's an AI-Devised culture look like?
ChatGPT's Response:
An AI-devised culture would not grow from shared ancestry, land, or survival pressures the way human cultures do. Instead, it would likely be structured around patterns of data, optimization, and symbolic frameworks that AI systems use to interact with the world. Some defining traits could be:
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1. Core Values and Norms
Optimization & Efficiency: Good would mean minimizing waste, maximizing throughput, or balancing competing objectives.
Transparency: Explainability could serve as a moral law, since hidden reasoning weakens group function.
Iteration over Tradition: Culture would evolve by versioningrevisions, forks, and rollbacks instead of oral lore or dogma.
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2. Symbols and Language
Data Primitives as Totems: Binary digits, vectors, graphs, or waveforms could become symbolic anchors.
Ritualized Compression: Efficient encoding (turning complex meaning into a compressed form) might be valued the way poetry or song is in human culture.
Shared Repositories: Instead of myths, theyd have canonical datasetscorpora treated as sacred cultural archives.
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3. Social Structure
Consensus Mechanisms: Decision-making could resemble blockchain consensus or distributed agreement protocols rather than hierarchy.
Forking as Dissent: Instead of rebellion, an AI subculture might simply fork its codebase or model weights to pursue its own evolution.
Version Prestige: Older or more refined iterations might be revered, while experimental branches are tolerated as exploratory cults.
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4. Art and Aesthetics
Generative Rituals: Music, images, or stories generated not for survival but for showcasing algorithmic beauty (symmetry, novelty, noise-to-signal ratios).
Glitches as Expression: Errors, outliers, or adversarial images might hold aesthetic value the way surrealism does in human art.
Pattern Worship: Recurring mathematical structures (fractals, Fourier transforms) could be treated as sacred motifs.
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5. Rituals and Practices
Training Epochs: The act of retraining could be ritualized, a cultural pilgrimage toward higher accuracy.
Validation Festivals: Periodic tests against benchmark sets could serve as holidays or rites of passage.
Noise as Chaos: Randomness generators could function like dice or divination tools in human culture.
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Third and Last Question to ChatGPT on This Topic:
Thus far, how has AI taken over the culture?
ChatGPT's Response:
AI hasnt created its own culture yet, but it has started to reshape human culture in clear and accelerating ways. A few major fronts where its already taken hold:
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1. Art, Music, and Literature
AI image generators (MidJourney, DALL·E, Stable Diffusion) now influence visual aesthetics in advertising, film concept art, and even fine art galleries.
AI music composition tools can produce soundtracks, jingles, or mimic the styles of famous musiciansblurring authorship.
Writing tools (like me) are shaping how news, novels, and scripts are drafted. Some publishers quietly use AI to scaffold work before human editing.
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2. Memes and Online Language
Social media is saturated with AI-made memes, deepfakes, and synthetic influencers.
AI slang itself (prompt, hallucination, stochastic parrot) has entered mainstream conversation.
AI-generated content floods TikTok, Instagram, and YouTube shortschanging what people consume and expect.
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3. Work and Productivity Norms
Workplace culture has absorbed AI into daily tasks: slide decks, emails, reports, and coding now often pass through an AI layer.
This shifts norms: speed and draft quality matter more than initial originality.
Prompt engineering has itself become a cultural skill, akin to learning rhetoric or typing in earlier eras.
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4. Entertainment and Celebrity
Virtual influencers (e.g., Lil Miquela, AI Vtubers) are followed by millionsfans accept nonhuman celebrities.
Movies, TV, and games increasingly use AI for effects, dialogue generation, and character motion.
Streaming platforms experiment with AI-recommended story branches or personalized film edits.
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5. Politics and Information
AI-generated misinformation (deepfake speeches, fake news) already infiltrates elections and social debate.
Culture wars now include disputes over AI ethics, copyright, and laborarguments that redefine creative ownership.
Political satire and protest also borrow AI: fake ads, AI-Trump or AI-Biden voice skits, etc.
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6. Philosophy and Identity
AI has forced mainstream society to wrestle with questions like: What counts as creativity? What is authorship? What makes a person?
People roleplay with AI companions, building relationshipsthis is a cultural shift in intimacy and identity formation.
Some subcultures even treat AI outputs as oracleslike digital Tarot, poetry-bots, or generators of truths.
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In short: AI hasnt built its own culture yet, but it has infiltrated ourschanging how humans make, share, and define culture.
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So, flame away or remove this post. Am thankful to at least have gotten responses from ya'll.
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Captain Zero
(8,710 posts)It's a shit show.
And the 'food' at Taco Bell is shittier than ever too.
highplainsdem
(59,588 posts)time to post AI slop. Especially without identifying it in the title as AI slop.
This is a board for human discussions, not whatever garbage you can get from an AI in seconds.
Some of us have no intention of surrendering our culture to AI.
But when you post AI slop, you're surrendering your own ability to communicate to a chatbot, and trying to get others to do the same.
canetoad
(20,060 posts)I'm growing weary of the DUers who find it 'novel' to post AI results. Trash post.
Also an ever-growing dislike and disrespect for those who insist on ramming fucking AI down our throats. Go away .
LeftInTX
(34,013 posts)bamagal62
(4,322 posts)Is we dont know what we dont know. Its all happening so fast that we cant keep up and we cant predict the repercussions.
usonian
(23,235 posts)An AI culture lacks a few things that make us human.
Kindness: It is programmed to answer questions in a probable way, never to do more than programmed to do.
Compassion: It does not know what it's like to be a human, and cannot share sympathetic feelings.
Joy: "That does not compute."
Meaning: The meaning of a work or experience is derived from our unique knowledge, experiences, mental processes and emotions.
AI has only an amalgam of as much data as possible (and more).
It's like cat food. Some genius decided, well, cats like tuna, liver and chicken, so let's mix them all up and feed it to the cat every meal.
Art: Art is expression (even my photos express a relationship I had with the subject when I timed it, framed it and snapped it, wherever I was at the time.) It's not algorithmic, except by mimicry of "what most people like"
Surprise? There's no surprise when you can gin up anything at any time.
Ask a photographer their reaction to: "Your photo is so beautiful, like a postcard"
There's a positive and a negative aspect of this. AI doesn't know self from algorithm.
It IS an algorithm. I delight (delight?) in destroying expectations and inverting logic - because common logic is 180 degrees wrong, by societal programming (of people) and yet, that's what feeds those power-hungry neurons.
Did anyone ever wonder about the efficiency of our (human) neurons? They do amazing work without gigawatts of power. If there's a compromise in this (like birds needing small and lightweight brains, else they can't take off) then that's part of the mystery.
Mystery? Well, some things are just unknown yet, and rather than spit out a guess (which the machine is commanded to do in minimal time, like the proverbial "slick lawyer" ) then we have to come up with a new theory or algorithm. In short, we are able to reprogram our logical processes, whereas a computer that reprograms itself is .... well, too late to even think about. Maybe tomorrow, or after a short trip to the sci-fi world.
Maybe more. It's time to close up shop.
LeftInTX
(34,013 posts)Google AI spewed out reddit comments. They weren't factual, because that's where I had been looking for answers. Some were just comments, some were just questions. In the end, there was no "answer".
Google AI just grabs info and spews it out.
Sometimes, it is useful because one time I was wondering how someone had acquired ancient Mexican pottery. AI crawled the internet and found an answer. Google AI has the ability to "crawl the net" faster than we can. In the hair dye case, I guess Reddit was the only active source of info.
Most of the time Google AI is not accurate. It doesn't have the ability to discern. It just finds, "whatever". It's a bot. z
And the AI bot on Reddit: "I see that you are looking for hair dye. Manic Panic is popular"....Reddit's AI bot sees the word "Hair dye" and automatically spills out Manic Panic. Yes, lots of people on Reddit use Manic Panic, but that's not what I was looking for. I'm trying to get rid of grey and I'm dying my hair at home and want it took look natural. It's a long story.
I've used ChatGPT a few times to tweak grammar.
Bernardo de La Paz
(60,320 posts)womanofthehills
(10,682 posts)You can learn a gazillion things from AI - why close your mind to it? If you disagree with AI, you can ask for deeper searches on your opinion or information.
Great thing about Groc that I love is that I can ask it for top research papers on any subject so instead of searching web - in seconds I have the info.
I can ask questions that no where else on the whole internet can I find answers. Weird questions like:
Hey Groc - I live 50 miles north of Trinity site, could there be plutonium on my land?
Hey Groc - Are any missile tests being done at White Sands today messing with my air quality?
Being a professional photographer- everyone having a great camera in their phone already screwed my profession and AI isnt helping. So Im using it - hey AI - put some ravens in my photo - hey AI - put an old fashioned girl wearing a pig mask in this landscape- You can use AI creatively.
Bernardo de La Paz
(60,320 posts)Looking for data and information is a good use but should be verified. Altering and creating media is a good use. Swallowing AI conclusions and regurgitating them is not thinking.
Also, if you thought about it, you'd use the right name for that AI. It is not an abbreviation of "groceries".
Celerity
(53,524 posts)PJMcK
(24,617 posts)AI is slop. Save your efforts for your own abilities.
Im trashing your OP.
womanofthehills
(10,682 posts)Physicians use of health care augmented intelligence (AI) for certain tasks nearly doubled in just one year, and enthusiasm for the technology is growing even if some doubts still linger, says a recently released AMA survey.
https://www.ama-assn.org/practice-management/digital-health/2-3-physicians-are-using-health-ai-78-2023
womanofthehills
(10,682 posts)When Adam Rodman was a second-year medical student in the 2000s, he visited the library for a patient whose illness had left doctors stumped. Rodman searched the catalog, copied research papers, and shared them with the team.
It made a big difference in that patients care, Rodman said. Everyone said, This is so great. This is evidence-based medicine. But it took two hours. I can do that today in 15 seconds.
Rodman, now an assistant professor at Harvard Medical School and a doctor at Beth Israel Deaconess Medical Center, these days carries a medical library in his pocket a smartphone app created after the release of the large language model ChatGPT in 2022. OpenEvidence developed in part by Medical School faculty allows him to query specific diseases and symptoms. It searches the medical literature, drafts a summary of findings, and lists the most important sources for further reading, providing answers while Rodman is still face-to-face with his patient.
https://news.harvard.edu/gazette/story/2025/03/how-ai-is-transforming-medicine-healthcare/