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[Keepthesoulalive]

1. This is what they voted for

They didn’t learn the first time and I don’t think feel any responsibility for this crap show the second time.

[Ping Tung]

2. Will war criminals who kill and starve people still be allowed visas?

[Ping Tung]

5. Palestinians voted in our elections?

[Nanjeanne]

4. I think this is on Trump. Uncommitted in Primaries was a valid tactic. Not voting in the Pres election by

voters who took a stance was a damn shame and certainly not my choice. But it does no one any good to blame Trump’s doings on people who felt they had some personal reason not to vote. Better to concentrate on winning back their votes and acknowledging that Trump is the enemy. Of course, goes without saying, IMHO..

[Keepthesoulalive]

6. In this country we have 2 choices

Their arrogance and vitriolic rhetoric destroyed Palestine. Maybe we could have found a diplomatic solution but they allowed a monster to be elected and the carnage is beyond anything we could have imagined. They bear responsibility for this as does anyone who doesn’t vote for the betterment of the world. The environment, civil rights, billionaires running our government, destroying our economy and the list goes on. They were not voting their conscience, they were voting their egos.

[Ms. Toad]

7. During the presidential election that is accurate.

It is not accurate during the primary. The primary is precisely the time to vote your conscience. That includes voting uncommitted to send your party a message on issues where you believe they are making a misstep.

[Keepthesoulalive]

10. We're talking about the general when many of the middle eastern community

Withheld their vote and the Hispanic male community voted for the felon.
You can vote in the primary for who ever you choose but you need to stop throwing childish fits in the general election. There were a lot of paid influencers swaying the electorate and when the damage was done they disappeared. Principles are wonderful but if your principles will cause a catastrophe you need to reassess what you really believe in.

[Ms. Toad]

11. That's not what the OP said.

It expressly called out "voting uncommitted." That is an option in some primaries, and was done during the 2024 primary in Michigan. Voting uncommitted is not an option in the general election.

So your response makes no sense in terms of what the OP was expressly calling out.

[Keepthesoulalive]

15. You may call it any name you choose

They chose the name uncommitted to show how dissatisfied they were with Joe Biden. The title was used for the general and they were to vote for Trump , Jill stein or not vote. They chose to say they were not going to vote for the democratic nominee because of Gaza. You mentioned primaries. I did not see anything in the op about primary elections.

[Ms. Toad]

18. You are ignoring reality.

It is not the name they chose for themselves. It is the name given by the state of Michican (and I believe 8 other states) to electors in the primary election who are committed to vote for a specific party at that party's convention - but who are not committed to vote for a particular candidate. Voters who were unhappy with Biden's position on Gaza, or other positions, voted for uncommitted in the primary, and succeeded in electing 2 electors who were not committed to Biden during the first vote at the convention.

What is an uncommitted vote on the presidential primary ballot?

Each major party’s candidate list includes the term ‘uncommitted.’ When a voter selects ‘uncommitted’ this implies that they are exercising a ‘party vote’ but are not committed to any of the candidates listed on the ballot. The uncommitted vote position does not rotate like other candidate names and remains in the position above the write-in line.

When you choose ‘uncommitted’ you will need to fill in the oval or square next to that selection in order for it to count. If you do NOT fill in the oval or square, your choice will not count.

https://www.michigan.gov/sos/faqs/elections-and-campaign-finance/voting-uncommitted-or-write-in-on-presidential-primary-ballot

I'm not disputing that some voters stayed home during the general election - but that is not what the term "voting uncommitted" refers to, and not was was expressly called out in the title. The OP chose to use the term "voting uncommitted," and if that was a mistake is free to edit the post to reflect what they actually mean. My response was to what was actually said - not to what you imagine they might have meant.

(And, FWIW - staying home in the general election is not the same thing as "voting" - let along "voting uncommitted." Which, again, is an impossibility in the general election. In the general election you can vote, or not vote. You can leave one or more races blank. But that is not the same as voting for an elector who can speak/vote at the party primary to raise concerns they believe are not being adequately addressed by the presumptive nominee (or by the slate of nominees when there isn't a single nominee). "Uncommitted" is not a candidate in the general election anywhere, as it is in the Michigan primary - and I believe 8 other states.)

[Keepthesoulalive]

20. I many not all did not vote for vice president Harris

They voted Trump, stein or not at all the movement that went to the convention could give their votes to satan but in the general the Muslim community did not vote for the democratic candidate. They were loud and proud of their movement and they were going to punish the democrats. Rashida was one of the ringleaders of the movement, where is her apology to the people of Gaza and the world. The names they called our candidates, we will withhold our votes in the general election if you don’t fix the mess in the Middle East. It was a movement well past the primaries designed to hurt the democrats and show their electoral power. Well I guess the showed us.

[Ms. Toad]

23. That has nothing to do with the OP I was responding to.

Which expressly identified "voting uncommitted," which is a status in the primary ONLY. There is no such status in the general election. The first post in the sub-thread I responded to expressly identified primaries: "Uncommitted in Primaries was a valid tactic."

Your response to a post about the primaries that in this country we have only two choices was, at best, non-responsive. At worst, it was flat out incorrect.

If you want to pick a fight about the general election, go pick it with someone else. Actions in the general election have nothing to do with "voting uncommitted," a status which does not exist in the general election.

[W_HAMILTON]

8. lol, those dumb fuckers blamed Biden and then Kamala for Netanyahu's doings.

[Initech]

9. This man is a sadistic psychopath.

[ananda]

12. Wow, keeping them out ahead of the new diaspora.

He wants Gaza completely depopulated
for his and Jared's own selfish purposes,
but he sure doesn't want them to come here.

Grrr

[SocialDemocrat61]

13. Just to be real

A lot of the people who refused to vote for Harris would have not voted for her in any circumstance. Gaza was just their issue du jour.

[Johnny2X2X]

14. Just so sad

Here in Michigan, the flip of votes in Dearborn and Hamtramack alone from Biden in 2020 to Trump or no one in 2024 very likely flipped the state. WI, and AZ also were affected and may have been flipped although not as likely as Michigan.

People got bamboozled, it was a psy ops deal. The GOP funded the Genocide Joe memes, they planted enough people with the protesters to drive a narrative. And I believe they even bribed some Muslim leaders when they needed to.

Anyone who didn't vote for kamala Harris, voted for the complete and total extinction of Gaza, period. Trump and his Far Right counterpart in Israel, Bibi, let the cat out of the bag months ago. The plan is for 100% of the people in GZaza to be ejected or killed, period.

[Keepthesoulalive]

16. There are pictures of him going to meet with Muslim leaders of Dearborn

He sold them a line of BS and they believed it. Don’t get me started on Rashida Tlaib. She was the most visible and vocal anti Kamala campaigner. The interesting thing I don’t hear any of them say they made a mistake only justification for their treachery.

[Johnny2X2X]

17. It's maddening how much less vocal they are now too

Some of these people were using their pulpit in congress everyday to go after Biden and Harris and now they rarely say anything about the full blown genocide endorsed by Trump.

Every single Palestinian living in Gaza will be ejected or killed because of them.

[mcar]

19. Where are the protests?

There were loads of them protesting "Genocide Joe" and "Killer Kamala."

How about protesting "Deadly Don?" Where are they?

[Keepthesoulalive]

21. They didn't care about Gaza

But we did we voted for vice president Harris . He showed them the first time what he thought of them either a Muslim ban and they still did everything in their power to elect him again.

[mcar]

22. So, it was all a ruse to get that thing elected again?

I suspected there were malign forces involved. Too bad so many students were duped.