Saw a dermatologist the other day and when she saw my "WOKE, it's not the insult you think it is" T-shirt

[Eliot Rosewater]

We began to discuss how much both of us hate the piece of shit.

I then said to her how crazy is it that the CDC director was fired and all of the people at CDC working on vaccines were fired, and that there was drastic restrictions of the Covid vaccine etc. She shocked me by saying she knew none of us, was unfamiliar with all of it.

Yes most of her friends are doctors and none of them have ever mentioned it, she assumes none of them know either, and I live in a very liberal city in a very blue state.

When I was at Labor Day protest today the vast majority of the other people there, and there were hundreds, were OLDER people.

Not only are younger people not involved they really have no idea what’s going on and find most of us an annoying pain in the ass that we keep talking about it. Not all of them, please don’t come back with that, I’m talking about millions of them though the same ones that couldn’t be bothered to vote on election day

Don’t know who to blame or what probably social media.


Now people can stop saying that those of us who say they’re going to take our vaccines are overreacting, you can stop saying that, or the ones who assured me the Supreme Court will NOT let the piece of shit get away with anything he wants, you could stop doing that too please.

[bucolic_frolic]

1. Sounds to me like she didn't want to engage in the discussion professionally

She let you know she is with you and then shut it down. From a doctor's perspective, they never know what a patient will do - like making your discussion public. Everyone is treading carefully, for obvious reasons.

[Deuxcents]

2. You're most likely right and it's understandable in a professional setting. Maybe she'll be at a protest rally!

[Eliot Rosewater]

4. Didn't see her at the protest today when I went but

My hope is she will inform all of her fellow physicians and they will start to talk about it.

CDC former directors and workers are coming out today gravely warning that we’re all in terrible danger.

[AverageOldGuy]

9. Two of our docs have signs in their offices:

"NO POLITICAL DISCUSSION IN THIS OFFICE. THANK YOU,"

[B.See]

3. In Bizarro-world Ignorance is Bliss

That's what they should have plastered on their rebel-red caps.

"IGNORANCE IS BLISS"

[FakeNoose]

5. MDs and other professionals assume they know more than we do

That's why they usually don't want to discuss politics with patients. Maybe she's had a bad experience (with a patient) and political discussion are off-limits. If she really didn't know about CDC, she must be a Faux Noise fan.

[slightlv]

6. I know a lot of younger people who think us "old" people

are pains in the butt. But we're the last generation alive that really knew anything about WWII (and WWI). We KNOW what happens if the U.S. stays on this course, and we're damned and determined not to see it come to fruition. So, they can think all they want that we're just pains in the butt, BUT we're fighting for them to live and raise a family in an environment better than most of us had in our middle years. We're protesting for their freedom, their clean water and decent soil in which to grow food.

[pandr32]

7. Social media, news as entertainment, and schools all fail youth.

Christian Nationalism isn't helpful either. Oh, and celebrity influencers! We care WAY too much for celebrities and not enough for people who do good things.

[pandr32]

12. With her huge fan following...

thank gawd she's a Democrat. The other side isn't so lucky (Kid Rock, Ted Nugent, etc.), but then they have monstrous evangelists, tech bros, oligarchs, mobs, villains, disinformation media conglomerate heads, etc.
I agree with you completely.
We should make like Finland and teach our children critical thinking skills in school. It helps them recognize disinformation considering they share a border with Russia, helps them academically, but not sure if it has helped them put celebrity influence in context, though it probably does.
I think our immigrants going through the naturalization process know more about civics than average people here do, too. They have to study and pass a basic civics test so they can understand how the U.S. government is set up and functions. We used to have Civics in school, but is in short shrift during a school semester or is an elective--easy to skip.
I have never thought highly of Oprah. She seems to give endorsements and financial backing, but she's also brought us Dr. Phil and Dr. Oz. I was also stunned when George Clooney went public to tell Pres. Biden to pack it up, Grandpa.
Clearly celebrities in all stripes carry influence.

[pandr32]

18. Thank you for this.

I had to look up kayefabe and will likely be using it myself as it perfectly describes so much these days.

Your views on technocrats is on the money and having a Gen Z niece and nephew who were raised with heavy exposure to computer games and social media it is easy to see the harm.

I raised my own children with an appreciation of nature and creativity. We lived near Vancouver, B.C. and had an abundance of outdoor adventure options all year 'round and access to theater and art. It was also a very culturally diverse metro area and so were their friends. When we crossed the border to live in WA State (West Coast) it was much the same and was as though we had just crossed a major highway and changed schools. My children are grown now, have professional careers and are doing good things, and I've since moved to Hawaii.

What has happened in the U.S. since we moved here (2000, shortly before the election) has been hard to recon with. It is now a tinderbox just waiting for a flame. I worry all the time. One of my brood now resides in the UK, but I worry for her as well.

On the bright side I am encouraged by all the protests I see across this country and the world (I am out there, too). While we struggle against villains of every stripe (including people who don't seem to know better or don't care), there are also many courageous people, so there is hope.

[AverageOldGuy]

8. T-shirts

I'm retired and at age 80 I'm not too concerned about what anyone else thinks about me or what I'm wearing. I wear khaki trousers and T-shirts, sneakers or Crocs.

I went on Amazon some time ago and bought a few T-shirts all displaying slogans.

"NO HUMAN IS ILLEGAL." I have four of these, two have the slogan in English and Spanish. I get a LOT of thumbs-up, "I like your shirt" comments.

"Let justice roll down like a river and righteousness like a mighty stream" -- Amos 5:24. Get a lot of likes for this one.

"Injustice anywhere is injustice everywhere" -- MLK. LOTS of thumbs-up for this one.

"Pro-America, Anti-Trump" some people have asked where they could get one of these.

"Veteran. Not a loser or a sucker." Most folks don't understand this, but those who do love it.

[soldierant]

10. I think she probably just doesn't have time or energy for any news.

This is Labor Day - and without unions we'd all be working 10 hour days 6 days a week Not saying medical people work those hours - but they do work more hours than we probably think. And then there's "on call" time. Or maybe it's close to when she has to renew hew license and she needs to rack up some continuing ed.

A lot of medical practices today are part of groups owned be selfish rich people. If you see a medical pro as a patient, you hve no idea what their private life is like.

[Eliot Rosewater]

13. No my dermatologist was not trying to not talk about politics

Because we were in the office, she was very interested in what I had to say and kept me talking about it.

Now I just came from my cardiologist office and asked one person there and they didn’t know anything about it either, we are fucked.

Even most of the medical community doesn’t know what’s going on with Kennedy and the CDC and vaccines😡😡😡😡

[Skittles]

17. sorry I would be leery of any doc not aware of what is going on with the CDC

I mean.....WTF

my doc was certainly on top of it - she said she's hoping other groups step up with vaccine advice because she knows nothing from the CDC will be trustworthy

[Swede]

14. I posted the other day that he's not leaving. He's gonna run in 2028.

Got some push back here. “It’s not legal”. Etc etc. he doesn’t care, his followers don’t care. Even Hitler wasn’t Hitler, until he was.

[Eliot Rosewater]

15. You're right but he won't bother to run. He just won't leave