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babylonsister

(172,804 posts)
Tue Sep 2, 2025, 08:34 AM Sep 2025

A Spectacular Diplomatic Disaster

https://politicalwire.com/2025/09/02/a-spectacular-diplomatic-disaster/


A Spectacular Diplomatic Disaster
September 2, 2025 at 7:42 am EDT By Taegan Goddard


Paul Krugman: “America has spent decades trying to cultivate good relations with India, which could be a useful counterweight to China. Now we have a nearly complete rupture, with India actually cozying up to China.”

“And what was that about? Apparently Trump, in his bizarre pursuit of a Nobel peace prize, tried to bully Narendra Modi, India’s prime minister, into giving him undeserved credit for a cease-fire between India and Pakistan. The two men haven’t talked since.

Axios: Modi joins hands with Xi and Putin in message to Trump.
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A Spectacular Diplomatic Disaster (Original Post) babylonsister Sep 2025 OP
This is the perpetual Republicon playbook, due to corporate America 90 day reporting cycle Bernardo de La Paz Sep 2025 #1
To put some numbers on it... CincyDem Sep 2025 #2
I hate this alliance with China jfz9580m Sep 2025 #3
The advent of un-moderated social media corporations ruined everything. Justice matters. Sep 2025 #21
Yeah jfz9580m Sep 2025 #22
SSDD malaise Sep 2025 #4
Brics success will help ruin the dollar's future questionseverything Sep 2025 #17
A little self examination of the US' might be helpful malaise Sep 2025 #18
We watch the news coverage of the summit mountain grammy Sep 2025 #5
I don't like Modi, Xi, or Putin; they are all dictatorships more or less, but: tornado34jh Sep 2025 #6
When you bully and insult your friends, they will go find other friends. Playground Politics 101. Midnight Writer Sep 2025 #7
Who lost India? Newark65 Sep 2025 #8
tRUMP wolfie001 Sep 2025 #16
Sarcasm, yes, and thank you for the greeting! Newark65 Sep 2025 #23
It'll be interesting to see how this affects drug prices..... HuskiesHowls Sep 2025 #9
I to get some meds from India Stonealone Sep 2025 #14
trmp couldn't care less about 'the country'. It's all about him... spanone Sep 2025 #10
This! Keep repeating this! Joinfortmill Sep 2025 #20
Recommended. H2O Man Sep 2025 #11
Trump's arrogance is only eclipsed by his stupidity. patphil Sep 2025 #12
Trump and Vance are both inept at diplomacy and foreign relations. ananda Sep 2025 #13
Fat lying imbecile wolfie001 Sep 2025 #15
This buffoon is gonna fuck up the entire world. IMPEACH! Joinfortmill Sep 2025 #19

Bernardo de La Paz

(60,320 posts)
1. This is the perpetual Republicon playbook, due to corporate America 90 day reporting cycle
Tue Sep 2, 2025, 08:37 AM
Sep 2025

Cranking short-term gains (90 day vision) for long term losses.

CincyDem

(7,412 posts)
2. To put some numbers on it...
Tue Sep 2, 2025, 08:50 AM
Sep 2025

India 1.46 billion
China 1.4 billion
USA 0.350 billion

The top 3 most populous counties.

We’ve been working towards USA + India = 1.71 vs. China’s 1.4

Today we have China + India = 2.86 vs. USA 0.35

Eventually, that law of large numbers difference is going to irreversibly impact just about every aspect of American life.

But hey…they get to “own the libs” so it’s all good, right?

 

jfz9580m

(17,910 posts)
3. I hate this alliance with China
Tue Sep 2, 2025, 09:02 AM
Sep 2025

I don’t want every part of the globe to turn into an overt dictatorship. I have many reasons to fear and distrust this personally.

This creepy argument that “China will do this or that loathsome and undemocratic thing so we should first” appeals to fascists and profiteers everywhere.

And Putin isn’t a good idea either of course but there’s a history there. This is a new development.

How about no dictator and oligarch run herding? Whatever happens to being a citizen of a democracy with enlightenment values or any non-fascistic kind..
Yeesh

Justice matters.

(10,084 posts)
21. The advent of un-moderated social media corporations ruined everything.
Tue Sep 2, 2025, 08:26 PM
Sep 2025

So long for "the Internet will make humanity better" goal of its creators...

Epic Fail.

 

jfz9580m

(17,910 posts)
22. Yeah
Tue Sep 2, 2025, 11:02 PM
Sep 2025

I am using the Internet these days strictly for democracy related reasons.
I don’t really enjoy it anymore (not after it became social more than a passive one-sided experience), but while the internet will “democratize things” was cynical bs, it has become a self-fulfilling prophecy to small extents.

I don’t understand transactionalism so I now use the internet (the rare spaces I trust like DU) to leave a digital trail since I at least know that I need women’s rights and democracy to survive though thriving is as far away as it ever was (especially in the last decade and a half).

malaise

(297,987 posts)
4. SSDD
Tue Sep 2, 2025, 09:18 AM
Sep 2025

The US continues to promote divide and rule white supremacy - it is no longer working.
China and India are way smarter than that. Go BRICS. Let the racists destroy themselves.

questionseverything

(11,985 posts)
17. Brics success will help ruin the dollar's future
Tue Sep 2, 2025, 06:09 PM
Sep 2025

Which will eventually ruin the free world 🌎

I understand being pissed at *rump and the United States right now but we are still the best chance for a civilized free country

In India people are still born into caste that are for life and china jails people for being born into certain religions

mountain grammy

(29,218 posts)
5. We watch the news coverage of the summit
Tue Sep 2, 2025, 09:23 AM
Sep 2025

Xi, Putin and Modi were yukking it up. Something was funny. My guess? they were joking about the orange buffoon.

Message to the world.. the American president is a fucking lunatic.

tornado34jh

(1,532 posts)
6. I don't like Modi, Xi, or Putin; they are all dictatorships more or less, but:
Tue Sep 2, 2025, 10:21 AM
Sep 2025

If India is starting to cozy up to China, who by the way are big rivals, then the current US government has no one to blame but itself, particularly Trump.

HuskiesHowls

(739 posts)
9. It'll be interesting to see how this affects drug prices.....
Tue Sep 2, 2025, 10:45 AM
Sep 2025

India is the world leader in the manufacture of generic drugs.

I currently have 2 prescription generic prescriptions in my medicine cabinet with ties to India. I also have some generic OTC's that are probably from India. I just wonder what's going to happen to those drug prices now.

Stonealone

(32 posts)
14. I to get some meds from India
Tue Sep 2, 2025, 02:19 PM
Sep 2025

I currently get two different drugs from India via Canada. each drug is a 90 day supply and both cost near $100 each. At my local discount warehouse pharmacy, each drug was near $1,000 each! on my last order, the price went up $90 each due to tariffs. but unfortunately one of the drugs has been stopped at the border, so i don't know when that one will be delivered. MAHA!! HA! HA! HA!

ananda

(35,518 posts)
13. Trump and Vance are both inept at diplomacy and foreign relations.
Tue Sep 2, 2025, 11:20 AM
Sep 2025

THey have absolutely no clout on the world stage.

wolfie001

(7,970 posts)
15. Fat lying imbecile
Tue Sep 2, 2025, 05:18 PM
Sep 2025

India/Modi didn't wait or hesitate. Opposite of Starmer who keeps trying to cozy up with the repulsive fatso from Mar-a-Lardo.

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