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Bo Zarts

(26,223 posts)
Tue Sep 2, 2025, 11:14 PM Sep 2025

The wind makes you crazy; the dead calm is worse.

In central Europe, they say that the Foehn winds can make you crazy. The Germans even have a name for it: Föhnkrankheit. I guess maybe the Santa Ana winds (which, from the perspective of atmospheric physics, are the same as the Foehn winds) make Californians crazy too.

However, what is driving me absolutely nuts are the diurnal winds of the last few days here in the Idaho panhandle. It blows like stink from sundown to sunrise, usually from the east-northeast. I mean 10-15, gusting 20!

I get up before sunrise and think, ah .. this is going to be a fine day. A cooling breeze and no swarms of flying ants. Then the sun cracks the horizon; the wind goes dead calm. And the lookout tower becomes like the “painted ship upon a painted ocean” of the Ancient Mariner.

Today was the worst. It got hotter and hotter. By early afternoon it was, by far, the hottest day I have ever spent in a fire lookout. And I worked three fire seasons in south Arizona’s Lemmon Rock lookout.

There was not a hint of a breeze. Then, around 4 pm, the sun dropped to the point that it again flooded into the lookout. The greenhouse effect kicked in and drove the inside temperature to the mid 90s.

Guess what then happened .. the (insert a Samuel L. Jackson expletive) flying ants swarmed. The tiny flying ants .. the worst kind. The yellow jackets soon followed to feed on the flying ants. A yellow jacket popped me on the hand .. don’t they know that I am a fellow hymenoptera from Georgia Tech?

Anyway .. the sun set at 7:19 pm, and the wind kicked up to 10-15, gusting 20, from the ENE. The bugs bugged out. The temperature plunged to a wonderful 80-F!

This was probably my worst day in a fire lookout since I started doing this in 2009. But the worst day in a fire lookout is better than most days anywhere else.

It’ll snow up here next week, mark my word. Then you will have to suffer me bitchin’ about the cold.

Wilderness Fire Lookout
Idaho Panhandle - Bitterroot Mountain Range
September 2, 2025

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The wind makes you crazy; the dead calm is worse. (Original Post) Bo Zarts Sep 2025 OP
My younger daughter used to say Tree Lady Sep 2025 #1
Me too. OldBaldy1701E Sep 2025 #2
I hear you. OldBaldy1701E Sep 2025 #3
I seriously thought this was a metaphor. LisaM Sep 2025 #4
Sounds like an annoying day. GoneOffShore Sep 2025 #5
First time I experienced a Santa Ana wind, opening the front door was like opening an oven Hekate Sep 2025 #6
Thanks so much for this diary, Bo Zarts! calimary Sep 2025 #7
It's been very windy where I live jfz9580m Sep 2025 #8
You're a good man blogslug Sep 2025 #9
The Chinook winds in Anchorage drove me crazy, for sure. callous taoboy Sep 2025 #10
Plan way ahead for a fishing trip and it always multigraincracker Sep 2025 #11

Tree Lady

(12,957 posts)
1. My younger daughter used to say
Tue Sep 2, 2025, 11:36 PM
Sep 2025

As a teen "beauty is pain". She was talking about wearing high heels but thinking about you perched overlooking those gorgeous mountains with beautiful sunsets and trees then hotter than hell and dealing with insects reminded me of her sayng.

I live in southern Oregon and have visited the north many times. I have family in Coeur d Alene. We toyed once with buying a home near Sandpoint. In my area rogue valley smoke that we have been lucky this year not to have so far has come last few days.

So thank you for looking out for fires since that is the danger where I live each summer.

Carry on...



OldBaldy1701E

(9,819 posts)
2. Me too.
Wed Sep 3, 2025, 12:08 AM
Sep 2025

My favorite uncle moved to Coeur d Alene in the mid 80s. Married and two kids.

He loved it.

OldBaldy1701E

(9,819 posts)
3. I hear you.
Wed Sep 3, 2025, 12:12 AM
Sep 2025

Growing up on the beaches of the Outer Banks, the wind was a constant.

There were times when one would start to go crazy over the fact that it was always blowing... days and days of 10-15mph winds with 25mph gusts. You could not leave anything weighing less than a pound outside.

Constant sand/wind burn. Eyes would be red and grainy if you worked outside.

You had to say the 'S' word, didn't you?

LisaM

(29,459 posts)
4. I seriously thought this was a metaphor.
Wed Sep 3, 2025, 12:20 AM
Sep 2025

I thought you were referring to weeks of crazy from the White House and then five days of nothing.

Hekate

(100,130 posts)
6. First time I experienced a Santa Ana wind, opening the front door was like opening an oven
Wed Sep 3, 2025, 12:34 AM
Sep 2025

I’m glad I haven’t encountered the flying stinging critters, but very early on I learned to associate the Santa Anas with fire. I don’t know about others, but yes, those hot winds make me edgy…

As always thanks for keeping us posted, thanks for what you do for us all — and stay safe out there. Hopefully you haven’t had any more Trumpistas wandering by.

calimary

(88,711 posts)
7. Thanks so much for this diary, Bo Zarts!
Wed Sep 3, 2025, 12:40 AM
Sep 2025

You really take us up there to Idaho with you. LOVED reading through it from the winds to the heat to the flying ants! It’s the little details that bring the whole day to life.

jfz9580m

(16,363 posts)
8. It's been very windy where I live
Wed Sep 3, 2025, 01:10 AM
Sep 2025

In the Global South.

I have vaguely been thinking about crap like this in between grappling with unending problems:

https://earth.org/planetary-computer/

https://www.eurekalert.org/news-releases/1078396


What’s depressing about that first thing is that instead of the analog of the ISS, it’s this corporate giant.
One plus MS AI has is that Mustafa Suleyman (unlike Nadella) doesn’t come off as outright stupid. Nadella is stupid as well. I can stand these types better when they are at least less stupid. Nadella comes off as alarmingly stupid much like Pichai etc.

callous taoboy

(4,765 posts)
10. The Chinook winds in Anchorage drove me crazy, for sure.
Wed Sep 3, 2025, 03:22 AM
Sep 2025

They would sometimes last for several days and nights, upwards of 80 + mph. Everything not battened down at the apartment complex would be frozen against the chain-link fence and covered in snow berms. The whole apartment building would sway a bit. That, and the darkness of mid-winter gave me very bad depression.

multigraincracker

(36,808 posts)
11. Plan way ahead for a fishing trip and it always
Wed Sep 3, 2025, 07:03 AM
Sep 2025

turns out there is a nasty Noth East wind blowing that day.

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