The insanity is beyond comprehension.. what the hell is going on in Florida

[Peacetrain]

In 1900 the average life span in the United States was 47 years.. tremendous number of kids died in childhood from childhood diseases like measles polio small pox etc

In 2000 the average life span was 76.8 years (women live longer than men,it is all averaged out) but immunizations basically added 30 years to our life spans.. I am old enough to remember the horror of polio and the people in the iron lungs.

In 2024 average life span is 77 ..

Some people cannot take vaccines, and they do not have to. We have been protected by a thing called herd immunity so that even those who cannot be immunized are protected because the viruses are caged in .. It works for all of us

So for the love all things holy, what is going on in Florida.??. They are contemplating doing away with all vaccines??

https://news.yahoo.com/articles/florida-moves-end-school-vaccine-161245974.html

[Zorro]

1. MAGAts are in control

[Peacetrain]

2. These people are insane. Completely insane

[Blues Heron]

28. They walk among us...

[Initech]

20. And this time they have their asshole and middle finger aimed at this country.

Because their man baby lost his toy in 2020.

[Ocelot II]

3. If you live in FL and have little kids in school, move the hell away.

[Peacetrain]

5. No kidding... My brother is a snow bird and goes to Florida every winter.. He has little grandchildren

I am going to give him a full rundown on what is happening there and to go someplace else..

[allegorical oracle]

16. You nailed it. Similarly, if I was a professional man or woman with kids, who was

offered a job in Fla., I'd recommend turning it down. It's one thing to kill off the codgers like me, but there's no need to wipe out the upcoming generation.

I blame the Surgeon General, Joseph Ledapo. He was tied in with that "medical" group, America's Frontline Doctors. It had ties to the Tea Party and is anti-vaxx. During Covid they fought to have hydroxy and ivermectin as the preferred treatment.

Don't know if anybody here remembers, but on July 27, 2020, that group -- including Ledapo -- gathered in front of the Supreme Court for an event called "The White Coat Summit." They made their Covid recommendations. When djt was asked about the group, he said they were "very well respected" doctors.

In 2023, following an investigation, Ledapo was rebuked by the CDC and the FDA for disseminating misinformation about vaccinations. He was accused of misinterpreting data. (source: Wikipedia)

Last year, during a measles outbreak in Fla., he said parents could decide whether to send their kids to school or not. CDC advised a 21-day quarantine in recovering cases. (source: Wikipedia)

It affects me personally because I can't take vaccines due to a pre-existing condition. Have depended on herd immunity all my life. Very concerning.

[flvegan]

4. Our governor is an idiot, our surgeon general is a quack.

Together with their ass-kissing embrace of "MAHA" and adding a massive pour of full-on voter stupidity/laziness and you get one hell of a moron cocktail.

[Peacetrain]

6. I am having polio nightmares.. that it will rear its ugly head again..

[Irish_Dem]

7. American children will be killed or injured by guns or lack of health care.

The rich and powerful will kill as many kids as possible to get what they want.
Money and power.

Putin and Xi are laughing and drinking champaign.
Killing a generation of US children without firing a shot.

Trump is doing it all for them.

[Peacetrain]

9. Putin made a complete fool out of Trump

[Irish_Dem]

14. It was like taking candy from a baby.

The entire US government, Congress, judges, courts, institutions also folded
like cheap lawn chairs for Putin.

[The Wizard]

8. Florida is Third World and the rest of the country

is on a slippery slope. The US is an international laughingstock.

[Peacetrain]

10. Yes we are..

[tanyev]

11. It's not like Florida's largest industry is based on visitors coming from places that do value vaccines.

OH WAIT…..

[FalloutShelter]

27. As I mentioned in an earlier thread...

Another good reason to never visit Disney World.
Good luck with that Florida Tourism Board.

[dedl67]

12. So, if the parents of kids unvaccinated in Florida move to a state where vaccination is required for school attendance.,

I assume they will need to get their kids vaccinated in order for them to attend school in the new state.

[walkingman]

13. What worries me is that if Florida passes this then you

can bet that Texas will follow suit - they would not stand for Florida getting more retarded than them. Then we will begin to see diseases come back that have been eliminated or under control for decades.

This is what you get when you have an undereducated public. We are witnessing the decline of America, and it is happening very quickly.

[Mysterian]

24. West Virginia will be in that competition too

Can't imagine Oklahoma missing out.

[Disaffected]

15. Insanity and fanaticism rolled into one.

These idiots might want to visit an old cemetery and read the headstones of the little kids who died from diphtheria. I recall one image of five headstones, side by side, of kids from the same family who all died of diphtheria within a few months of each other. The heartbreak must have been unimaginable.

[LetMyPeopleVote]

17. Florida Surgeon General Ladapo takes aim at all of the state's vaccine mandates

School districts have required children to be immunized against all kinds of diseases for decades. In Florida, officials hope to roll back the clock.

As DeSantis’ administration in Florida targets *all* of the state’s vaccine mandates, remember:

If Lapado & Co succeed, Floridians would start exporting contagions and serious ailments to other Americans — and in all likelihood, even to other countries. www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddo...

— Steve Benen (@stevebenen.com) 2025-09-03T16:59:56.509Z

https://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/maddowblog/florida-surgeon-general-ladapo-takes-aim-states-vaccine-mandates-rcna228838

The Washington Post published a memorable analysis in 2022 that noted, “For months, we’ve written in this space about how the Republicans’ pushback against coronavirus vaccine mandates could foment — and apparently has been fomenting — opposition to mandates of other vaccines, including for schoolchildren.”

With this in mind, the latest news out of Florida is dangerous, but it’s not altogether surprising. NBC News reported:

Florida Surgeon General Joseph Ladapo said Wednesday that the state will work to eliminate all vaccine mandates. ‘All of them. All of them,’ he said during a news conference as the crowd stood and erupted in applause. ‘Every last one of them is wrong and drips with disdain and slavery.’ He said the Florida Department of Health will work in partnership with the governor. He said forcing vaccine mandates is ‘wrong’ and ‘immoral.’

No other state has gone nearly this far.......

But that perspective is mistaken: If Florida moves forward with plans to target all of the state’s vaccine mandates, not only will children suffer from preventable diseases, but Floridians will start exporting contagions and serious ailments to other Americans — and in all likelihood, even to other countries.

In 2021, The Washington Post’s Benjy Sarlin noted that it seemed likely that the United States would “end up with fewer vaccine requirements in some places than we started with before the pandemic” that has killed millions of people around the world.

That might’ve sounded ridiculous, but four years later, it’s an unsettling assessment that’s holding up well.

[BlueTsunami2018]

18. Exactly what the majority of the people voted for down there.

That’s what’s happening.

[Hey Joe]

21. Florida "The Sundowner State"

[CanonRay]

22. Doing my family's Sicilian genfron the early 1800s

More kids died than survived, most before age 3. One family had 4 in a row die.

[Blue Full Moon]

23. It's a lot cheaper

Withhold health care, deny vaccines, cause deaths and then facilities aren't needed.

[MLWR]

25. One of the various reasons that I will not take a vacation in red states.

[spanone]

26. Ignorance on steroids.

[Liberty Belle]

29. ANyone have a list of conventions planning to go to Florida? We should urge all to cancel over this.

Point out that we don't want convention-goers to fall ill or bring deadly preventable diseases home to other states.

AARP should rally its Florida members to protest to their legislators over this.

We need a national boycott on visits to Florida.

What else can be done?

[dsc]

30. To be fair, anti biotics deserve credit for some of that extra life span

but vaccines did much of it.

[3catwoman3]

31. The fact that Florida's surgeon general is associated with America's Frontline...

…Doctors tells you all you need to know about him. One of their more well known members, Stella Immanuel, is really out there. She believes that much of gynecological illness is caused by people having sex with demons while they are asleep.



I’m never sure whether to feel sorry for or scornful of people who fall for this flagrant bullshit.

[The Revolution]

32. It is insane, but we shouldn't pretend

that this is just a MAGA thing. Remember Kennedy himself was running as a Democrat just last year. Also, I vividly remember being very worried about the anti-vax movement being allowed to fester on the west coast until increasing outbreaks finally forced California, Oregon, and Washington to act on it in the mid 2010's. Though I give them credit for eventually moving in the right direction, we are not blameless for the horrors that are about to come.

[Jack Valentino]

33. Vaccine mandates are "slavery"?? NO--- having a GQP state gov't is SLAVERY

Too bad there isn't a vaccine for FUCKING STUPID!

[LetMyPeopleVote]

34. Florida's state flag has been updated to show a child's grave.

[Emile]

35. K & R