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surfered

(14,283 posts)
Wed Sep 3, 2025, 08:50 PM Sep 2025

Trump and Hegseth commit an extra judicial murder of people on a boat from Venezuela.

Question: Has the Supreme Court ruled that Trump has immunity? I assume Hegseth does not. Please correct me if I am wrong.

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Trump and Hegseth commit an extra judicial murder of people on a boat from Venezuela. (Original Post) surfered Sep 2025 OP
What counts as those official acts for which the Roberts Court says the POTUS is immune RockRaven Sep 2025 #1
The Officers don't have immunity for illegal commands. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Sep 2025 #2
That was my understanding, but who knows with this Court? surfered Sep 2025 #4
I just found out about this and I am gob smacked. How is this a thing? tulipsandroses Sep 2025 #3
Were there children in the boat? Bernardo de La Paz Sep 2025 #5

RockRaven

(19,750 posts)
1. What counts as those official acts for which the Roberts Court says the POTUS is immune
Wed Sep 3, 2025, 09:09 PM
Sep 2025

will always be a case-by-case (and partisan) judgment.

surfered

(14,283 posts)
4. That was my understanding, but who knows with this Court?
Wed Sep 3, 2025, 10:04 PM
Sep 2025

Back story: as a 22 year-old, college graduate draftee in Army basic training in 1970, the question was raised as to whether or not Lt Calley should be court martialed for the My Lai massacre.

I raised my hand in the affirmative. I was in the minority. I was not judging his guilt or innocence. The Court Martial should do that.

But reading the room, the majority thought there should not have even been a judicial procedure.

The President says they’re bad guys. The public: it’s ok to kill them. Sometimes my fellow Americans scare the s**t out of me. We shall see.



tulipsandroses

(8,298 posts)
3. I just found out about this and I am gob smacked. How is this a thing?
Wed Sep 3, 2025, 09:29 PM
Sep 2025

I remember the extreme violence of the Italian mafia in NYC. It took several trials to take down John Gotti. Sammy the Bull, an admitted serial killer is off living his best life. They were not blown up.
Furthermore, I doubt someone of El Chapo's stature was on that boat. wouldn't it have been better to arrest them and get them to flip on the higher ups??

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