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FadedMullet

(1,018 posts)
Thu Sep 4, 2025, 02:44 AM Sep 2025

This opinion piece from "The Guardian" (Australia) says that Hakeem Jefferies and Chuck Schumer should.....

.......step down and be replaced by new people who are willing to fight Trump's authoritarianism tooth and nail. The writers say that 62% of Democratic voters agree that Dem leadership should be replaced. Put me down as a Minnesota DFL voter who could not agree more.

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2025/sep/03/democrats-chuck-schumer-hakeem-jeffries

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This opinion piece from "The Guardian" (Australia) says that Hakeem Jefferies and Chuck Schumer should..... (Original Post) FadedMullet Sep 2025 OP
Because we should always RandySF Sep 2025 #1
The author has been a US citizen since 2020. It's Mehdi Hasan. (nt) muriel_volestrangler Sep 2025 #8
Yeah, what Muriel said. Also, "The Guardian" reports on U.S. politics better than our mainstream media, period. FadedMullet Sep 2025 #9
It would be pretty fucking hard to do it any worse. (nt) Paladin Sep 2025 #88
they do a better job than what passes for a lot mainstream American "journalism" Skittles Sep 2025 #13
..as does Haaretz and al Jazeera.. thomski64 Sep 2025 #36
A lot of Americans, including Democrats want leadership replaced. Autumn Sep 2025 #24
Who should replace them and what are these fighters hoping to do ? JI7 Sep 2025 #2
I'm waiting for someone in the media to say JustAnotherGen Sep 2025 #30
David Hogg's candidate lost in Arizona. Not a peep here about it. Nixie Sep 2025 #49
Your last question begs the answer "not with Schuler and KPN Sep 2025 #52
Agree Bread and Circuses Sep 2025 #3
Why don't we just ask Chuck and Hakim to set themselves on fire? RandySF Sep 2025 #4
No, they wouldn't burn hard enough. A status quo milquetoast self immolation does not meet the moment. betsuni Sep 2025 #5
No one wants that. We just want leadership that's willing to fight this Autumn Sep 2025 #25
Thank you. The intellectual dishonesty about "leadership" is Nixie Sep 2025 #51
But then someone else's opinion MorbidButterflyTat Sep 2025 #76
Feh LudwigPastorius Sep 2025 #6
"Australia"? The Guardian is a UK publication, and the author is a US-British journalist now based in the USA muriel_volestrangler Sep 2025 #7
I read the article in the Australian edition of the paper. The Wiki article you cite mentions it as one of..... FadedMullet Sep 2025 #10
You read an Australian edition of the UK Guardian malaise Sep 2025 #11
That's what I said, no? FadedMullet Sep 2025 #12
That does not exist malaise Sep 2025 #14
Mlle. Malaise - I like you. You're not often wrong, but you do own up to it when you are. FadedMullet Sep 2025 #90
It what we're supposed to do malaise Sep 2025 #91
The article is on every web 'edition' of the Guardian, which is a British paper. Celerity Sep 2025 #23
There are some excellent "foreign" journalists. democrank Sep 2025 #15
The UK Guardian is the most credible source malaise Sep 2025 #16
The press has a history of removing Democratic politicians perdita9 Sep 2025 #17
Post removed Post removed Sep 2025 #18
You mean the US corporate media malaise Sep 2025 #20
And let Republicans skate for doing much worse! ananda Sep 2025 #22
Every single fucking time JustAnotherGen Sep 2025 #29
This is why I've been boycottting msm for years. ananda Sep 2025 #46
If we aren't listening to Urban Radio on Sirius in the morning JustAnotherGen Sep 2025 #47
Even if Authentic Strongly Worded Yelling Fighting Spirit Superheroes Way to Go are anointed, betsuni Sep 2025 #19
F*ck Mehdi Hasan SocialDemocrat61 Sep 2025 #21
Thank-you. lostincalifornia Sep 2025 #27
Cable news anchors who faithfully read from their teleprompters gab13by13 Sep 2025 #35
Ratigan was OK SocialDemocrat61 Sep 2025 #37
That doesn't make him wrong about this. FadedMullet Sep 2025 #48
So a bigot who has a history of SocialDemocrat61 Sep 2025 #61
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mehdi_Hasan FadedMullet Sep 2025 #63
I know who he is SocialDemocrat61 Sep 2025 #64
Did you watch the video I linked to? FadedMullet Sep 2025 #92
Why? SocialDemocrat61 Sep 2025 #94
No, it was a video of Hasan that a reasonable person might watch and see that their rather extreme...... FadedMullet Sep 2025 #95
Big deal SocialDemocrat61 Sep 2025 #96
So you didn't watch it. You asked for forgiveness and I do forgive you. Maintaining your absolutist position is...... FadedMullet Sep 2025 #97
No. I'm under no obligation to watch anything SocialDemocrat61 Sep 2025 #99
The seventy Democrats here, who recommended my O.P., are perhaps less close-minded and absolutist. FadedMullet Sep 2025 #100
I could care less SocialDemocrat61 Sep 2025 #106
Don't you mean "I could not care less", implying the least possible interest? Oh, and one more thing. You keep.... FadedMullet Sep 2025 #109
Bye! SocialDemocrat61 Sep 2025 #110
https://www.youtube.com/watch?vwolqWDmbp4A FadedMullet Sep 2025 #65
Can you show some examples of this bashing? Violet_Crumble Sep 2025 #68
You're entitled to your opinion of Hasan SocialDemocrat61 Sep 2025 #69
That's not what I asked you. Violet_Crumble Sep 2025 #70
You're free to ask me what ever you like SocialDemocrat61 Sep 2025 #71
It's just a way to try to shut people up. writerJT Sep 2025 #78
You know he apologized for his views on LGBTQ and abortion, right? Cuthbert Allgood Sep 2025 #81
Yeah, he apologized but SocialDemocrat61 Sep 2025 #82
I see that you have dropped the "overpaid" from your description of Hasan as a "TV celebrity", but it's still irrelevant FadedMullet Sep 2025 #104
No he's still overpaid. SocialDemocrat61 Sep 2025 #107
The replacements will face the same obstacles, with less name recognition and experience bucolic_frolic Sep 2025 #26
We are fighting a fascist dictatorship JustAnotherGen Sep 2025 #28
Your post bashes the Democratic party. gab13by13 Sep 2025 #32
It is most certainly does not bash the Democratic Party. sheshe2 Sep 2025 #56
I am with you, JAG. sheshe2 Sep 2025 #58
Republican leadership needs replacement, RNC conspiracies rigging fundraising -- where's noise about that? betsuni Sep 2025 #59
People pull out studies/polls JustAnotherGen Sep 2025 #62
I thought unpopularity of political parties was an international trend as well. betsuni Sep 2025 #67
Correct! JustAnotherGen Sep 2025 #83
"Far left." Jeezus. Iggo Sep 2025 #80
What's the problem? JustAnotherGen Sep 2025 #87
What "far left" are we referring to? BlueTsunami2018 Sep 2025 #98
Why didn't Schumer and Jeffries gab13by13 Sep 2025 #31
Guardian is from the UK, not Australia. marmar Sep 2025 #33
And reports better on US politics Jilly_in_VA Sep 2025 #38
Agreed. marmar Sep 2025 #39
Agreed. And Schumer did a fake on the CR a few months ago. yellow dahlia Sep 2025 #53
Yes, that CR. nt sprinkleeninow Sep 2025 #55
This was discussed above. The Guardian has 5 editions. I read Hasan's piece in the Australian edition, but...... FadedMullet Sep 2025 #50
Wonderful article that demonstrates how little the two leaders have done to LEAD. There is no Nanjeanne Sep 2025 #34
There is the Schumer plan gab13by13 Sep 2025 #41
Yup yellow dahlia Sep 2025 #54
more advice from this person for Democrats to surrender our leadership bigtree Sep 2025 #40
Didn't Nancy Pelosi basically say the same thing? gab13by13 Sep 2025 #42
the 'opinion' writer is a serial ratfucker bigtree Sep 2025 #45
You're wasting your time Keepthesoulalive Sep 2025 #57
I think MorbidButterflyTat Sep 2025 #75
We lost to a complete buffoon twice. Hassin Bin Sober Sep 2025 #84
Are you saying this is the democrats fault Keepthesoulalive Sep 2025 #89
A lot of magical thinking going on here. How does something like this happen? Srkdqltr Sep 2025 #43
If the 2026 midterms don't go well, the Democratic Senate and House caucuses can oust Schumer and Jeffries by voting for Midwestern Democrat Sep 2025 #60
Yes, but it will be someone "boring" because that's what the jobs entail. LeftInTX Sep 2025 #72
If we lose 2026 JustAnotherGen Sep 2025 #86
Close your eyes MorbidButterflyTat Sep 2025 #74
Like promising: I'm going to break up the big banks! Abolish billionaires! Cancel all student loan debt! betsuni Sep 2025 #77
Democrats are in a good place to take back the House in 26 Quiet Em Sep 2025 #44
We had to listen to Nancy Pelosi whine-bashed constantly that she had no "next generation of leadership" to betsuni Sep 2025 #66
What "new people"? MorbidButterflyTat Sep 2025 #73
Help Wanted: Fresh new faces new blood new fresh people for leadership position. No experience necessary. betsuni Sep 2025 #79
"Tooth and nail" means feel good performance art SocialDemocrat61 Sep 2025 #85
Jeffries could be in danger of losing his seat next year Renew Deal Sep 2025 #93
Nothing to add aurora the great Sep 2025 #101
Thanks, Aurora. Not everyone here agrees, but that's what we are supposed to be all about. You know, as Democrats. FadedMullet Sep 2025 #103
Quite an opnion. Torchlight Sep 2025 #102
Agreed. Schumer and Jeffries are damaged goods. Paladin Sep 2025 #105
To quote The Godfather SocialDemocrat61 Sep 2025 #108

FadedMullet

(1,018 posts)
9. Yeah, what Muriel said. Also, "The Guardian" reports on U.S. politics better than our mainstream media, period.
Thu Sep 4, 2025, 04:36 AM
Sep 2025

Skittles

(172,865 posts)
13. they do a better job than what passes for a lot mainstream American "journalism"
Thu Sep 4, 2025, 04:58 AM
Sep 2025

indeed they do

Autumn

(49,020 posts)
24. A lot of Americans, including Democrats want leadership replaced.
Thu Sep 4, 2025, 09:06 AM
Sep 2025

As for foreign countries being concerned about our politics and politicians? They have a direct impact on other countries world wide. They are right to be concerned.

JI7

(93,900 posts)
2. Who should replace them and what are these fighters hoping to do ?
Thu Sep 4, 2025, 03:04 AM
Sep 2025

Are these fighters unable to do this fighting from where they are now ?

JustAnotherGen

(38,109 posts)
30. I'm waiting for someone in the media to say
Thu Sep 4, 2025, 09:15 AM
Sep 2025

David Hogg.

You know it's coming.

We listened to them about John Fetterman - and look at what a massive disappointment he's been.

The media knows nothing and are in it for themselves.

Nixie

(18,105 posts)
49. David Hogg's candidate lost in Arizona. Not a peep here about it.
Thu Sep 4, 2025, 11:23 PM
Sep 2025

But I do think your assessment is very accurate.

KPN

(17,510 posts)
52. Your last question begs the answer "not with Schuler and
Thu Sep 4, 2025, 11:32 PM
Sep 2025

Jeffries at the helm”, but what do I know? Well, I do know what my instincts tell me. And they are in agreement with the OP.

RandySF

(86,231 posts)
4. Why don't we just ask Chuck and Hakim to set themselves on fire?
Thu Sep 4, 2025, 03:30 AM
Sep 2025

Because it seems nothing short of that will be enough "determination" to satisfy columnist who aren't even in the country.

betsuni

(29,292 posts)
5. No, they wouldn't burn hard enough. A status quo milquetoast self immolation does not meet the moment.
Thu Sep 4, 2025, 03:51 AM
Sep 2025

Autumn

(49,020 posts)
25. No one wants that. We just want leadership that's willing to fight this
Thu Sep 4, 2025, 09:08 AM
Sep 2025

fascist bullshit.

Nixie

(18,105 posts)
51. Thank you. The intellectual dishonesty about "leadership" is
Thu Sep 4, 2025, 11:28 PM
Sep 2025

tiresome. They knew Trump was the alternative. They just don’t like their FAFO and want to put blame elsewhere for putting Democrats in the minority.

MorbidButterflyTat

(4,743 posts)
76. But then someone else's opinion
Fri Sep 5, 2025, 09:42 PM
Sep 2025

will be they didn't use the right accelerant, and the wind wasn't blowing in the right direction so it wasn't fiery enough, and they didn't burn long enough, and they did it while I was at work and I missed the whole thing so it's utterly meaningless and all is lost and hopeless until someone fights tooth and nail, dammit!!

FadedMullet

(1,018 posts)
10. I read the article in the Australian edition of the paper. The Wiki article you cite mentions it as one of.....
Thu Sep 4, 2025, 04:39 AM
Sep 2025

......five editions that are available.

malaise

(297,946 posts)
14. That does not exist
Thu Sep 4, 2025, 05:01 AM
Sep 2025

Last edited Thu Sep 4, 2025, 06:19 AM - Edit history (1)


Add
Apparently there is an Australian web edition of The Guardian - my bad.
https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news

FadedMullet

(1,018 posts)
90. Mlle. Malaise - I like you. You're not often wrong, but you do own up to it when you are.
Sat Sep 6, 2025, 05:16 PM
Sep 2025

democrank

(12,680 posts)
15. There are some excellent "foreign" journalists.
Thu Sep 4, 2025, 05:16 AM
Sep 2025

I find it helpful to evaluate a variety of perspectives when formulating conclusions. That’s especially true now with my party’s approval rating below 30%. I’m asking myself why? What needs to change?


perdita9

(1,365 posts)
17. The press has a history of removing Democratic politicians
Thu Sep 4, 2025, 05:28 AM
Sep 2025

They went after Howard Dean for a weird yell he did at a rally

They went along with Bush's campaign to swiftboat John Kerry , knowing the whole thing was a lie

"But her emails" and " Benghazi, Benghazi, Benghazi" took out Hilary Clinton

A couple of weeks before the election, I watched Washington Week reporters savage Kamala Harris for not being forceful enough in her answers in some interview, never mentioning Trump publicly praising Arnold Palmer's genitalia.

Newsrooms are controlled by uber wealthy people who want tax breaks. Any Democrat with a platform to even the playing field gets targeted.

Response to perdita9 (Reply #17)

JustAnotherGen

(38,109 posts)
29. Every single fucking time
Thu Sep 4, 2025, 09:14 AM
Sep 2025

The NEVER call out what is happening in America as the fascist dictatorship it is.

This 'policy' leadership bullshit only accomplishes fragmenting the party.

It's by design. If Dems had it all and their perfect utopia existed? A lot of these people would lose their jobs.

JustAnotherGen

(38,109 posts)
47. If we aren't listening to Urban Radio on Sirius in the morning
Thu Sep 4, 2025, 12:41 PM
Sep 2025

We have BBC World on our television.

betsuni

(29,292 posts)
19. Even if Authentic Strongly Worded Yelling Fighting Spirit Superheroes Way to Go are anointed,
Thu Sep 4, 2025, 05:43 AM
Sep 2025

they cannot pass the purity test. None shall pass.

Again, the problem is Republicans, they could stop Trump right now. They have the power. They could meet the moment. The Democratic Party has nothing to do with it.

SocialDemocrat61

(8,035 posts)
21. F*ck Mehdi Hasan
Thu Sep 4, 2025, 06:32 AM
Sep 2025

He’s an anti-choice homophobe who regularly ranted against Biden and the Democratic Party.

gab13by13

(32,767 posts)
35. Cable news anchors who faithfully read from their teleprompters
Thu Sep 4, 2025, 09:23 AM
Sep 2025

never get fired. The ones who stray from the narrative they are given, the ones who speak truth to power are fired.

My favorite was Dylan Ratigan who was touring the country exposing crony capitalism. he stepped on too many powerful peoples' toes like Mehdi did. Dylan was in tears saying goodbye, I miss him, he was authentic, something lacking in most cable news anchors.

SocialDemocrat61

(8,035 posts)
61. So a bigot who has a history of
Fri Sep 5, 2025, 03:10 AM
Sep 2025

bashing democrats is now right about bashing democrats. Yeah right. 🤦‍♂️

FadedMullet

(1,018 posts)
95. No, it was a video of Hasan that a reasonable person might watch and see that their rather extreme......
Mon Sep 8, 2025, 01:14 AM
Sep 2025

.......position condemning him, absolutely, as a player and observer of our, and more importantly, his political world, might be throttled back a bit after further consideration. Did you watch it and have a different reaction?

SocialDemocrat61

(8,035 posts)
96. Big deal
Mon Sep 8, 2025, 03:18 AM
Sep 2025

I’ve seen enough videos of him attacking Biden and democrats. One video of him will not erase all the others. You’ll have to forgive me, but I’m here to support democrats and the Democratic Party not to be an apologist for an overpaid tv celebrity who attacks democrats.

FadedMullet

(1,018 posts)
97. So you didn't watch it. You asked for forgiveness and I do forgive you. Maintaining your absolutist position is......
Mon Sep 8, 2025, 03:36 PM
Sep 2025

.......difficult, as evidenced by you having to refer to him as an "overpaid tv celebrity", as if that had something to do with it.

FadedMullet

(1,018 posts)
100. The seventy Democrats here, who recommended my O.P., are perhaps less close-minded and absolutist.
Tue Sep 9, 2025, 03:33 PM
Sep 2025

SocialDemocrat61

(8,035 posts)
106. I could care less
Tue Sep 9, 2025, 04:49 PM
Sep 2025

Everyone is entitled to their opinion. And I’m not threatened by someone having a different opinion than I do. So if someone wants to support a bigot who attacks democrats, that’s their right.

FadedMullet

(1,018 posts)
109. Don't you mean "I could not care less", implying the least possible interest? Oh, and one more thing. You keep....
Wed Sep 10, 2025, 03:55 AM
Sep 2025

......saying "I'm here only to support Democrats", which is nice, here in a forum filled with only Democrats. I'd suggest that supporting them, at least here among friends, is to acknowledge some of their shortcomings and encourage change.
Beyond that, I'm done.

Violet_Crumble

(36,417 posts)
68. Can you show some examples of this bashing?
Fri Sep 5, 2025, 07:43 PM
Sep 2025

Also, when it comes to the accusation of being a bigot, do you have any examples of him being homophobic? I personally don't give a shit if he is opposed to abortion, though would change my mind on that if he wanted it made illegal and actively spoke out about it.

My view of Hasan is he's incredibly intelligent, makes compelling arguments backed up with facts, and is easily more articulate and effective than anyone else I've seen and heard. I suspect some dislike him because he's progressive, Muslim, speaks the truth about Israel's war crimes, and can be critical of Democrats when they deserve criticism.

Did you watch the Jubilee episode? It was awesome, but pretty disturbing.

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SocialDemocrat61

(8,035 posts)
69. You're entitled to your opinion of Hasan
Fri Sep 5, 2025, 07:51 PM
Sep 2025

Just as I’m entitled to mine. I’m here to support democrats and the Democratic Party not to defend an overpaid tv talking head who always thinks he’s the smartest guy in the room from any and all criticism. But to each his own.

Violet_Crumble

(36,417 posts)
70. That's not what I asked you.
Fri Sep 5, 2025, 07:53 PM
Sep 2025

Yr making accusations and I asked for some examples. Have you got any or are those accusations of bigotry and bashing Dems just yr opinion?

SocialDemocrat61

(8,035 posts)
71. You're free to ask me what ever you like
Fri Sep 5, 2025, 08:11 PM
Sep 2025

But I’m in no way obligated to answer. As I said I’m here to support democrats not to be a corporate media minon.

Cuthbert Allgood

(5,339 posts)
81. You know he apologized for his views on LGBTQ and abortion, right?
Fri Sep 5, 2025, 11:34 PM
Sep 2025

Like it was a 2009 sermon, and he said like 5 years ago that he is not proud of those views and no longer holds them.

As to bashing Biden, I remember him being very unhappy about Biden's policy on Gaza (many here aren't happy about that) and he wasn't a fan of his pardon of Hunter (I, also, thought that was a horrible move with terrible optics).

FadedMullet

(1,018 posts)
104. I see that you have dropped the "overpaid" from your description of Hasan as a "TV celebrity", but it's still irrelevant
Tue Sep 9, 2025, 03:57 PM
Sep 2025

bucolic_frolic

(55,818 posts)
26. The replacements will face the same obstacles, with less name recognition and experience
Thu Sep 4, 2025, 09:10 AM
Sep 2025

I don't see how this advances the ball.

JustAnotherGen

(38,109 posts)
28. We are fighting a fascist dictatorship
Thu Sep 4, 2025, 09:12 AM
Sep 2025

This is NOT the time for ANY Democratic Elected official who serves in D.C. to step down.


Where's the article saying that Thune and Johnson are little fascist pigs and they need to be dominated and brought to heel like the rabid little fascists they are?

Put me down as Blue Jerseyan who believes in State's Rights and that we should band together with other Northeast states (not PA - too risky) and soft secede.

If the FAR left was so great - they would have swept every election since 2016.

betsuni

(29,292 posts)
59. Republican leadership needs replacement, RNC conspiracies rigging fundraising -- where's noise about that?
Fri Sep 5, 2025, 12:48 AM
Sep 2025

Only Democrats need constant daily nagging and bashing, eh?

The far right Tea Party types took over the Republican Party because voters wanted that. A take over of the Democratic Party didn't happen because voters didn't and don't want it. The fairy tales about the Democratic old guard/establishment/centrists/DNC boogeyman somehow rigging everything "holding members back" and so on is stupid.

JustAnotherGen

(38,109 posts)
62. People pull out studies/polls
Fri Sep 5, 2025, 08:16 AM
Sep 2025

Last edited Fri Sep 5, 2025, 10:38 AM - Edit history (1)

That people don't like the Democratic Party.

Oh really? Because the Democratic Party and Republican Party actually WIN elections.

Also - most Americans don't like ANY political party.

So when I see the Greens, DSA, Libertarians, etc. etc. put up some ground shaking big wins and take overs of local, state, and fed gov - I'll pay attention to them.

Show me your party can win on its own - and then I'll pay attention to their voters.

betsuni

(29,292 posts)
67. I thought unpopularity of political parties was an international trend as well.
Fri Sep 5, 2025, 07:37 PM
Sep 2025

Absurd to try to convince us that the Democratic Party is somehow so horrible everybody hates them now.

JustAnotherGen

(38,109 posts)
87. What's the problem?
Sat Sep 6, 2025, 07:44 AM
Sep 2025

Can you point me to the Green Party or DSA Elected Official? The one that ran as a third party?

On the Right - Can you show me the Libertarian? That ass wipe in Kentucky runs as a Republican - not a third party Libertarian.

Working Families has put up big wins - but I don't view them as Far Left. They are staunch liberals (Pro Union, Public Education, Fair wages, etc etc) 12 of their candidates for the Party within the Party won seats in the NYC council in 2010. Our Congressional Candidate in 2024, in my district in NJ, is WFP aligned. She's now a high ranking employee of my Senator Andy Kim.

Angus King runs as an Independent. He's not owned by anyone.

BlueTsunami2018

(5,075 posts)
98. What "far left" are we referring to?
Mon Sep 8, 2025, 03:38 PM
Sep 2025

There isn’t anything resembling actual left policies in this country let alone far left.

gab13by13

(32,767 posts)
31. Why didn't Schumer and Jeffries
Thu Sep 4, 2025, 09:16 AM
Sep 2025

do what Rho Khanna did yesterday?

I have been saying for over a month that Congressional Democrats should organize a forum with the Epstein victims, victims' lawyers, prosecutors and get a major TV network to cover it.

What Massey and Khanna did yesterday was fantastic, but it was held out in the grass of the Capitol, and with the distractions of Krasnov's flyovers.

We need 2 more Congressional Magats to sign the discharge petition to get the Epstein files released. Thank you Rho Kanna for fighting.

Jilly_in_VA

(14,624 posts)
38. And reports better on US politics
Thu Sep 4, 2025, 09:32 AM
Sep 2025

than almost any US media there is. "Fight me. Anyway, I agree with Medhi about Schumer. He's too much of a "go along to get along" sort to succeed these days. We need someone really fiery and he ain't it. Jeffries, I'm not so sure. If he had a strong counterpart in the Senate, he might be much better. I've heard him be really fiery himself. But Chuck is just too folksy, too grandfatherly, and, dare I say it, too much like Susan Collins, for these times.

yellow dahlia

(6,464 posts)
53. Agreed. And Schumer did a fake on the CR a few months ago.
Thu Sep 4, 2025, 11:35 PM
Sep 2025

Schumer can't be trusted. He cares more about keeping power than doing the best thing for the country.

He and Jeffries both have been hoping the Repukes will implode so they (Dems) can win the midterms.

FadedMullet

(1,018 posts)
50. This was discussed above. The Guardian has 5 editions. I read Hasan's piece in the Australian edition, but......
Thu Sep 4, 2025, 11:24 PM
Sep 2025

......someone here has said that it appeared in all of the editions.

Nanjeanne

(6,641 posts)
34. Wonderful article that demonstrates how little the two leaders have done to LEAD. There is no
Thu Sep 4, 2025, 09:21 AM
Sep 2025

Democratic plan - no Democratic point of view - no Project XXXX outlining what a Democratic administration would be. No one is saying there aren’t some Democrats fighting hard. But there’s no PLAN. Not by Schumer or Jeffries or Martin of the DNC. It’s every Dem for themselves and it’s why we look feckless and disjointed and weak.

gab13by13

(32,767 posts)
41. There is the Schumer plan
Thu Sep 4, 2025, 09:37 AM
Sep 2025

Back in March when he and a minority of Senate Democrats kneecapped the House and voted to allow passage of the CR and getting absolutely nothing in return, no protections for the social safety net, he went on Chris Hayes and explained why he gave Krasnov his CR.

Not my words, Schumer's, he told Hayes that he was afraid that Democrats would be blamed for a shutdown, he told Hayes that Krasnov will burn it all down and then that will enable Democrats to win the next election. That is the strategy, that is why I get a dozen texts every day to donate money to someone's campaign. The strategy is to throw money at the 2026 election.

Last March was the time for Democrats to take a stand and demand protections for our social safety net. I was told that Medicare and Social Security would be safe. Medicaid, Medicare, and Social Security are being gutted and we can't do a damn thing about it because we didn't fight back last March.
Just my humble opinion.

I'm 78, I can get by without Social Security, I have a pension and a 401k. I can get by without Medicare, but it will be tougher, I have Union provided secondary insurance plan. I am thinking about the millions of people who won't be able to get by.

Krasnov wants people to die, those who die are deemed inferior and are not a part of the remaining master race.

bigtree

(94,672 posts)
40. more advice from this person for Democrats to surrender our leadership
Thu Sep 4, 2025, 09:36 AM
Sep 2025

...fuck that.

Mehdi Hasan with Cuomo: 'I see no way back for Biden; replace him with Harris'



theintercept.com
Mehdi Hasan
Joe Biden Is Hillary Clinton 2.0 — Democrats Would Be Mad to Nominate Him

Forget, for a moment, his “blue-collar-uncle-at-the-end-of-the-bar persona.” Ignore also his recent, and ridiculous, claim to have the “most progressive record of anybody” running for president. Consider, instead, the sheer number of similarities he seems to have with the vanquished Democratic presidential candidate of 2016.

Iraq War supporter? Check. Clinton was pilloried by the left and the right alike as a wild-eyed hawk; her vote in favor of the Iraq invasion haunted both her 2008 and 2016 campaigns. In fact, a study by two academics in 2017 found a “significant and meaningful relationship between a community’s rate of military sacrifice and its support for Trump” and suggested that if Pennsylvania, Michigan, and Wisconsin “had suffered even a modestly lower casualty rate,” they could have “sent Hillary Clinton to the White House.”

Let’s be clear: If he runs, Biden will be the only candidate — out of up to 20 Democrats running for the nomination — to have voted for the Iraq War. As the influential chair of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee in the run-up to the invasion, Biden (falsely) claimed the United States had “no choice but to eliminate the threat” from Saddam Hussein. A former U.N. weapons inspector even accused the then-senator of running a “sham” committee hearing that provided “political cover for a massive military attack on Iraq.”

Friend of Wall Street? Check. Clinton had a Goldman Sachs problem; Biden has an MBNA problem. Headquartered in his home state of Delaware, the credit card giant MBNA was his biggest donor when he served in the Senate. In 2005, Biden threw his weight behind a bankruptcy bill, signed into law by President George W. Bush, that shamefully protected credit card companies at the expense of borrowers.
https://theintercept.com/2019/03/21/joe-biden-2020-hillary-clinton/


bigtree

(94,672 posts)
45. the 'opinion' writer is a serial ratfucker
Thu Sep 4, 2025, 10:14 AM
Sep 2025

...just to make this clear, since the post above hasn't gotten any response.

And here we go again.

Keepthesoulalive

(2,414 posts)
57. You're wasting your time
Thu Sep 4, 2025, 11:59 PM
Sep 2025

They want some magical savior to appear and fix this messed up country. Bernie was robbed , democrats are not fighting hard enough, we’re not progressive enough,
We are not focused on economic issues and Obamacare was a failure because it wasn’t universal healthcare. They find anything to complain about and look far and wide to find it. It is depressing and demoralizing when the sob is tearing the country apart and the Epstein files.

Keepthesoulalive

(2,414 posts)
89. Are you saying this is the democrats fault
Sat Sep 6, 2025, 09:24 AM
Sep 2025

That the American people are so stupid they voted to cut their own throats. The first time may be a mistake, the second time is just crazy stupid. His racism ,sexism, ignorance, pettiness and incompetence was on display and almost destroyed the country. Please sir may I have another.

Srkdqltr

(9,940 posts)
43. A lot of magical thinking going on here. How does something like this happen?
Thu Sep 4, 2025, 09:39 AM
Sep 2025

WHO .... makes them quit? Is there such a person?
WHO .... votes for their replacement?
WHO ... replaces them?
HOW DOES ALL THIS WORK?

Midwestern Democrat

(1,031 posts)
60. If the 2026 midterms don't go well, the Democratic Senate and House caucuses can oust Schumer and Jeffries by voting for
Fri Sep 5, 2025, 01:51 AM
Sep 2025

a challenger - of course, if it got to that point, Schumer and Jeffries would almost certainly "voluntarily" step down from their posts rather than being defeated in a caucus vote.

LeftInTX

(34,852 posts)
72. Yes, but it will be someone "boring" because that's what the jobs entail.
Fri Sep 5, 2025, 08:57 PM
Sep 2025

They need a bunch of experience and with the experience comes routine etc. So, the public will then be disappointed.

JustAnotherGen

(38,109 posts)
86. If we lose 2026
Sat Sep 6, 2025, 06:36 AM
Sep 2025

We'll have a full blown Northeast Alliance. Schumer and Jeffries will be pushed to join us. The US Democratic Party will be looking to Texas and Florida for leadership. That will be stage 2. Soft Secession is already happening.

Ramp up would be the stolen 2026 election by the Regime. If that happens, the Northeast like the West will be going it alone. I'm on the ground in NJ LD-16 - and I have my own constituents in my Borough within that district.

The Rage of average Janes and Joes in Blue and Purple states is not being reported on. It is rage we are hearing in this local, Assembly, and Governor's race. Rage.

I'd love to hear what folks in VA are encountering.

What happens in NJ and VA matters this year. What steps are taken in the first 100 days of these two states determines how far the Regime will go to impose its unAmerican values on Blue States.




betsuni

(29,292 posts)
77. Like promising: I'm going to break up the big banks! Abolish billionaires! Cancel all student loan debt!
Fri Sep 5, 2025, 10:23 PM
Sep 2025

Start an economic revolution by having rallies! When asked how, mumble grumpily about not having the details in your pocket, then accuse your allies of being corrupt coastal elites paling around with oligarchs and Republicans.

Quiet Em

(3,014 posts)
44. Democrats are in a good place to take back the House in 26
Thu Sep 4, 2025, 09:40 AM
Sep 2025

and I want Hakeem Jeffries as leader and as Speaker. I think he's been doing an excellent job with the hand he's been dealt and he always keeps the Democratic coalition on the same page.

The bashing of Hakeem Jeffries is getting old. It's just like the non stop bashing of Pelosi. I'm sick of it.

betsuni

(29,292 posts)
66. We had to listen to Nancy Pelosi whine-bashed constantly that she had no "next generation of leadership" to
Fri Sep 5, 2025, 05:22 PM
Sep 2025

replace her, was clinging to power, would never impeach Trump, attack attack attack.

Even I knew Jeffries was Pelosi's protege and I'm not a member of the House like the person who said that she didn't have one (and the f I Don't Know Anything But Know I'm Right Let's Revolution people), and of course she did "pass the torch" to the next generation of leadership. And here we are, same old whine-bashing a member of the Congressional Progressive Caucus as status quo establishment who hates progressives BS. Doesn't matter who it is, same attack and always wrong.

MorbidButterflyTat

(4,743 posts)
73. What "new people"?
Fri Sep 5, 2025, 09:19 PM
Sep 2025

Name them.

And describe what fighting "tooth and nail" looks like in reality.

This crap is so far beyond tedious and boring.

betsuni

(29,292 posts)
79. Help Wanted: Fresh new faces new blood new fresh people for leadership position. No experience necessary.
Fri Sep 5, 2025, 10:33 PM
Sep 2025

SocialDemocrat61

(8,035 posts)
85. "Tooth and nail" means feel good performance art
Sat Sep 6, 2025, 06:31 AM
Sep 2025

not anything that will help anyone in anyway way but grand demonstrations that will make some happy. Personally, I prefer real accomplishments that actually helps people.

Renew Deal

(85,350 posts)
93. Jeffries could be in danger of losing his seat next year
Sun Sep 7, 2025, 09:13 PM
Sep 2025

Depending on how he handles this and Mamdani. Schumer knows he shouldn't run for re-election.

FadedMullet

(1,018 posts)
103. Thanks, Aurora. Not everyone here agrees, but that's what we are supposed to be all about. You know, as Democrats.
Tue Sep 9, 2025, 03:41 PM
Sep 2025
 

Paladin

(32,354 posts)
105. Agreed. Schumer and Jeffries are damaged goods.
Tue Sep 9, 2025, 03:59 PM
Sep 2025

At a point where we desperately needed Democratic strength and resolve, they offered us timidity. And we're paying for it, to this very day. Enough.

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