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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsHe didn't win the election for Christ sake.
?si=iS0f0C2C2BfnASC0Record fundraising, record turnout at events, rallies. Leading in most of the polls.
gab13by13
(32,421 posts)I post that she won.
The data is available, the anomalies, such as surges in same day voting for Krasnov but only occurring in the swing states. If that pattern was for real then why no surges in any other state?
Jose Garcia
(3,509 posts)Brainfodder
(7,781 posts)Butterflylady
(4,584 posts)That's what did for me. Your never going to convince that it wasn't.
Silent Type
(12,412 posts)Butterflylady
(4,584 posts)Things are going to keep getting worse for the pubs. You can take that to the bank!
stopdiggin
(15,493 posts)that he did not.
But DO keep walloping that dead animal !
annielion
(108 posts)By definition, computers can be hacked. Always.
Computers are not adding machines, nor are they calculators. Computers do what the computer program tells them to do. Nothing else.
Our votes are recorded and counted in the way the computer is instructed to record and count them.
Computer and statistical experts have a great deal of evidence of vote manipulation.
I believe the evidence.
ElectionTruthAlliance.org SmartElections.us
stopdiggin
(15,493 posts)RANDYWILDMAN
(3,166 posts)come on
Election truth alliance
EdmondDantes_
(1,840 posts)They think split ticket voting is evidence of something being wrong. They think differences between mail in voting, early voting and election day voting is evidence of something being wrong.
They shouldn't be taken seriously.
Silent Type
(12,412 posts)Wish someone would provide evidence, but not the junk like VP Harris didn't get a vote in a district in NY State?
My personal opinion is that if trump were not a felon, rapist, fraudster, A-hole, etc., he might have won by 10 points or more.
Edited. 3:45 PM
stopdiggin
(15,493 posts)(and, in the larger scheme of DU, and this thread - that probably doesn't make much difference)
The deniers are firmly ensconced in their silo ... And the rest of us ...
Silent Type
(12,412 posts)Mr.Bee
(1,836 posts)obnoxiousdrunk
(3,115 posts)2020 election stolen too ?
annielion
(108 posts)Trump really thought he was going to win the 2020 election, because the election was supposed to be stolen for him. The computer program used to steal the 2024 election was not used for mail-in ballots, apparently because of the way mail-in ballots are counted. This was probably true in 2020 as well (I know less about the evidence of attempted stealing of the 2020 election). In 2020 70% of voters used mail-in ballots due to the Covid 19 pandemic. Since 70% of votes were not subject to the "steal for Trump" computer program, the 2020Trump steal did not work.
My feeling is that Trump's attempt to overturn the 2020 election was a result of his firm belief that since his steal didn't work, the Dems stole the election away from him and that he had the right to be president because his steal should have worked. In his world, that is the way everything works.
mr715
(3,596 posts)but could as a convicted felon, 4 years later? And that Joe Biden had no capacity nor agency nor desire to win and was, in fact, complicit in Trump's victory. After all, he did have the whole intelligence community at his call.
Come on. It can't be both ways.
If Trump stole 2024 (which he did not), it is because the Democrats allowed it (which they did not).