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He didn't win the election for Christ sake. (Original Post) Eliot Rosewater Sep 2025 OP
Every time people post what Kamala did wrong gab13by13 Sep 2025 #1
If she won, she's doing a pretty shitty job right now Jose Garcia Sep 2025 #21
Lost all 7 swing states was enough for me to smell something? Brainfodder Sep 2025 #2
Now, Butterflylady Sep 2025 #8
Gawd, sure hope we don't go into midterms believing that. We'll lose again. Silent Type Sep 2025 #3
We are going to WIN...... Butterflylady Sep 2025 #9
He did win. And nobody has demonstrated anything anywhere close to proof (or even solid evidence) stopdiggin Sep 2025 #4
Do you know that our votes are recorded and counted by computers? annielion Sep 2025 #6
I repeat - THEY DO NOT HAVE ANY EVIDENCE stopdiggin Sep 2025 #12
ETA did and it's Data based RANDYWILDMAN Sep 2025 #7
Nothing the election truth alliance is data EdmondDantes_ Sep 2025 #11
+1. trump did win. No one -- other Greg Palast types -- have come up with anything approaching evidence trump lost. Silent Type Sep 2025 #14
all spot on ... (but you probably meant to respond to another post) - -(nt)- stopdiggin Sep 2025 #17
Sorry, you are right. I changed my post, rather than deleting. Silent Type Sep 2025 #18
I've Been Saying Since 'Election' Night, Eliot! Mr.Bee Sep 2025 #5
Was the obnoxiousdrunk Sep 2025 #10
It looks as though Trump tried to steal the 2020 election annielion Sep 2025 #13
So he wasn't able to rig the game effectively as President mr715 Sep 2025 #22
Sometimes we sound like a losing boxer or football coach, "We was robbed." Silent Type Sep 2025 #15
Does this guy sell pillows too? tritsofme Sep 2025 #16
Yeah, no. There's point in sharing random YT videos. themaguffin Sep 2025 #19
... Eliot Rosewater Sep 2025 #20

gab13by13

(32,421 posts)
1. Every time people post what Kamala did wrong
Thu Sep 4, 2025, 10:15 AM
Sep 2025

I post that she won.

The data is available, the anomalies, such as surges in same day voting for Krasnov but only occurring in the swing states. If that pattern was for real then why no surges in any other state?

Butterflylady

(4,584 posts)
9. We are going to WIN......
Thu Sep 4, 2025, 11:46 AM
Sep 2025

Things are going to keep getting worse for the pubs. You can take that to the bank!

stopdiggin

(15,493 posts)
4. He did win. And nobody has demonstrated anything anywhere close to proof (or even solid evidence)
Thu Sep 4, 2025, 10:54 AM
Sep 2025

that he did not.
But DO keep walloping that dead animal !

annielion

(108 posts)
6. Do you know that our votes are recorded and counted by computers?
Thu Sep 4, 2025, 11:21 AM
Sep 2025

By definition, computers can be hacked. Always.

Computers are not adding machines, nor are they calculators. Computers do what the computer program tells them to do. Nothing else.

Our votes are recorded and counted in the way the computer is instructed to record and count them.

Computer and statistical experts have a great deal of evidence of vote manipulation.

I believe the evidence.
ElectionTruthAlliance.org SmartElections.us

EdmondDantes_

(1,840 posts)
11. Nothing the election truth alliance is data
Thu Sep 4, 2025, 11:54 AM
Sep 2025

They think split ticket voting is evidence of something being wrong. They think differences between mail in voting, early voting and election day voting is evidence of something being wrong.

They shouldn't be taken seriously.

 

Silent Type

(12,412 posts)
14. +1. trump did win. No one -- other Greg Palast types -- have come up with anything approaching evidence trump lost.
Thu Sep 4, 2025, 03:16 PM
Sep 2025

Wish someone would provide evidence, but not the junk like VP Harris didn't get a vote in a district in NY State?

My personal opinion is that if trump were not a felon, rapist, fraudster, A-hole, etc., he might have won by 10 points or more.

Edited. 3:45 PM

stopdiggin

(15,493 posts)
17. all spot on ... (but you probably meant to respond to another post) - -(nt)-
Thu Sep 4, 2025, 03:41 PM
Sep 2025

(and, in the larger scheme of DU, and this thread - that probably doesn't make much difference)
The deniers are firmly ensconced in their silo ... And the rest of us ...

annielion

(108 posts)
13. It looks as though Trump tried to steal the 2020 election
Thu Sep 4, 2025, 12:34 PM
Sep 2025

Trump really thought he was going to win the 2020 election, because the election was supposed to be stolen for him. The computer program used to steal the 2024 election was not used for mail-in ballots, apparently because of the way mail-in ballots are counted. This was probably true in 2020 as well (I know less about the evidence of attempted stealing of the 2020 election). In 2020 70% of voters used mail-in ballots due to the Covid 19 pandemic. Since 70% of votes were not subject to the "steal for Trump" computer program, the 2020Trump steal did not work.

My feeling is that Trump's attempt to overturn the 2020 election was a result of his firm belief that since his steal didn't work, the Dems stole the election away from him and that he had the right to be president because his steal should have worked. In his world, that is the way everything works.

mr715

(3,596 posts)
22. So he wasn't able to rig the game effectively as President
Thu Sep 4, 2025, 04:28 PM
Sep 2025

but could as a convicted felon, 4 years later? And that Joe Biden had no capacity nor agency nor desire to win and was, in fact, complicit in Trump's victory. After all, he did have the whole intelligence community at his call.

Come on. It can't be both ways.

If Trump stole 2024 (which he did not), it is because the Democrats allowed it (which they did not).

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