We should "vote blue no matter who", they say... until...

[BWdem4life]

Time and time again, Jeffries has refused to endorse his own party’s official candidate for mayor in his own city, two months after Zohran Mamdani won the Democratic mayoral primary in New York by double digits – including Jeffries’ own congressional district by eight points.

This is the same Democratic party leader who has insisted in the past that progressives should “vote BLUE (no matter who)”. But centrists? Apparently, they’re under no such obligation./

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2025/sep/03/democrats-chuck-schumer-hakeem-jeffries

[lostincalifornia]

1. Another Guardian anti-Establishment Democratic party hit job. Was the Guardian concerned when

Rashida Tlaib publicly refused to endorse VP Harris against trump for the Presidency?

but by all means, keep posting divisions among Democrats. I am sure that will help us in the upcoming midterns,

I guess when Nina Turner compared President Biden to a "bowl of s**t", and her refusal to vote for Hillary in 2016, was that bothersome?

and unlike Nina Turner who refused to vote for Hillary in 2016 in the general election, Jefferies never said he would NOT vote for Mamdani in the general election.

Is the OP suggesting it is OK "not to vote Democratic" in the general election?

[BWdem4life]

2. The OP is exposing hypocrisy, pure and simple.

Do not put words in the OP's mouth.

[stopdiggin]

7. the post exposes hypocrisy from a different direction

withholding support (or refusing to vote) doesn't just go in one direction - and the poster points that out quite nicely.

but thanks for your concern.

[mcar]

10. Has Jeffries said he wouldn't vote for Mamdani?

Has he compared voting for him to eating a bowl of shit?

[mcar]

16. Oops, I posted to the wrong party

[BWdem4life]

11. Oh, I'm concerned.

Our democracy stands in the balance.

[lostincalifornia]

12. It is too bad the Nina Turners, David Sirotas, Cornell West, Brihana Joy Gray, Jill Steins, etc weren't concerned about

that in 2016 when the Supreme Court was at stake.

and those protesters who refused to vote for Harris, along with labor who split the vote, Latinos who split the vote, and others weren't that concerned about "our democracy" when it mattered in 2024. In fact, both 2016 and 2024 were watershed moments effectively working toward giving trump unitary executive rule.

It is a day late and a dollar short to suddenly "be concerned" about our Democracy.

[stopdiggin]

14. I'm all admiration .... Really! ... As thorough take-downs go ....

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[mcar]

17. "DNC refusing to allow Sanders to win?"

What are you talking about?

[lostincalifornia]

21. Ignoring that it was the voters in the primaries who decided who their nominee would be. Unbelievable.

[mcar]

26. Yes, the primary voters chose HRC

not Bernie. I can't believe this nonsense is being rehashed here.

[mcar]

47. She won the primaries. Period.

More Democrats voted for her than Bernie.

[Jack Valentino]

64. Yeah, she won the primaries in 2016....

I still think that was a mistake---

and her white-male choice for VP was her own mistake---
which ignored the African-American voters who delivered the nomination to her

[Keepthesoulalive]

48. Oh please

Some of us were not enamored of Bernie, we did not vote for him or his minions in the primary. This nonsense reminds me of another populist who said it was stolen.

[kerry-is-my-prez]

56. At the time I loved Bernie, but voted for Hillary.

Sanders did end up pissing me off though.

[BWdem4life]

25. Again, it's hypocrisy I'm calling out.

Saying that others are/were also hypocritical does not excuse one’s own (or in this case Jeffries’ and Schumer’s) hypocrisy.

[Jack Valentino]

67. whose intentions are actually WHAT ???

Yes, it is true that the majority of the party's primary/caucus voters chose Hillary for the nomination.

It is ALSO true that the majority of the DNC members
tried to put their finger on the scale to get Hillary nominated,
that is a well-known FACT....

As it happens, I don't think they made any difference.

African-American voters delivered the 2016 nomination to Hillary,
after which she promptly ignored them, trying to pursue
the "moderate white vote"---- and she LOST.

I supported her in the general election, and thought we were winning---
but at the time of the convention I argued that she MUST
choose an African-American for the VP spot, for the sake of VOTER TURNOUT----

Any African-American whom she might have chosen would have
become an instant STAR----

but she decided to try to "play it safe",
and the diminished AA turnout in 2016 made the losing difference in that election.


Even an older white guy like me knew what should have been done....

[betsuni]

70. Conspiracy theory.

"Majority of the DNC members tried to put their finger on the scale"

[iemanja]

77. Bernie lost because he couldn't get his voters to the polls

He spent the lion’s share of his campaign funds on advertising and under resourced turnout efforts. That’s a guaranteed way to lose.

[LetMyPeopleVote]

22. I was a Clinton delegate to the 2016 National Convention

How did the DNC refused to allow Sanders to win? I saw the delegate vote.

[kerry-is-my-prez]

50. Don't forget Nader who screwed us over. He supposedly was concerned about the environment.

We had 8 years under Dubya polluting the hell out of the country. There were also people who could be blamed for Trump getting in the first time.

[PufPuf23]

61. Why tag the actions and statements of specific individuals on entire demographics?

That is a propagandist's trick.

That trick is why the Democratic party lose elections that should have been won.

Why minority demographics and young voters chose to be less than thrilled with the Democratic Party or consider themselves independent or lose faith.

Better to relate why one should vote Democratic.

Better to acknowledge the issues of others and work to make the nation and world egalitarian and non-violent.

[iemanja]

80. They aren't Democrats

Schumer and Jefferies are.

[LeftInTX]

82. Well, then the DSA or the whatever can save it!

[iemanja]

75. Your issue is not with not voting Democratic

It’s a rant against progressives. You’re out of touch with the electorate and upset that they don’t follow your marching orders. The party of the 2000s is a losing one. That is what you’re desperate to preserve. Many of us, however, actually want to win. The voters determine the direction of the party, not those tethered to the past.

[yardwork]

34. Just asking questions?

[Celerity]

4. Mamdani, AOC and other DSA members should leave party: Dem Rep. Tom Suozzi insists

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100220610061

[iemanja]

76. His issue is with voters

They are who he actually despises.

Some of those leftist Dems are among the few holding Trump’s feet to the fire.

[DBoon]

27. Anger over lack of support for Hillary and Kamala should not excuse refusing to support a Democrat in a future election

Absent invention of a time machine, we cannot go back to prior election and change the outcome, nor can we change others' past lack of support for Democrats.

The NYC election is in the near future. We can affect the outcome and we can support the nominee chosen by the Democratic voters.

[orangecrush]

33. Concern duly noted.

[TheFarseer]

54. The difference is

When Rashida Talib won’t endorse Biden, she gets dog piled into oblivion. When Hakeem Jeffries won’t endorse Mamdani, only a few progressives object.

[Nimble_Idea]

111. There is no division. Mamdani will win in a landslide.

[Prairie Gates]

3. I don't see any reason to dredge this up again during the campaign

After the election, go nuts, but at this point, the whole line of argument is just pointless and divisive.

[muriel_volestrangler]

19. Surely the point is that Democratic leaders should endorse Democratic candidates *before* the election?

It's Mamdani who is running in the campaign, not Jeffries or Schumer. If you want party unity, then they need to support him now. And then if you want them to "go nuts", then tell them to disown him (if they must) *after* the election.

[LeftInTX]

5. Sounds like an "organized" plan.

Disappointed that they aren't endorsing, but where on earth would we get a new House and Senate Minority leader?

Let's throw the House and Senate Dems into disarray and have elections!


Are other members complaining and clambering for the job??

Is Tlaib itching to be minority leader? How has she been at opposing Trump?

Maybe more outspoken members don't want the leadership positions!

And is he even a Democrat or just a critic?

[Arazi]

38. The most public leadership brawl saw Pelosi help squash AOC's leadership bid

We probably don’t know if there’s been others seeking leadership positions since Dems have been very open about making sure younger ambitious Dems know their place.

[LeftInTX]

39. Yes, that was unfortunate. But that was also a committee position.

It takes time to build seniority and AOC was deserving to be cochair.

But to try to "shake things up" right now in the middle of the term would cause chaos.

[Ping Tung]

6. In my state we now vote for individuals not party.

"Always vote for principle, though you may vote alone, you may cherish the sweetest reflection that your vote is never lost." John Quincy Adams

[Keepthesoulalive]

51. And you also might set the world on fire

I have never found the perfect candidate but I vote for who will try to make a better country and a better world. Your principles don’t mean shit to people in developing countries who are starving and without vaccines because of trump and musk. How about education, healthcare, food, agriculture, science and so many other things our country needs. You can pat yourself on the back, but the morgue don’t care . That is what is and will be occurring.

[Ping Tung]

52. We seem to share the same prinicples. As did Quincy Adams.

I'm willing to hold my nose when the party runs to the right to get elected. But, there are limits to that. This is a democracy (of sorts) and my vote is mine to cast as I please. If any candidate in any party states they are against a woman's right to control her own body, or to deny medical care to poor people,, or deny the first amendment rights to citizens, they won't get my vote.

I'm not a True Believer, Dogmatist, My Party Right or Wrong, kind of guy. I'm flexible and weigh my votes and have done so since 1965.

You?

[Keepthesoulalive]

53. You mentioned many things you vote for

But I have never seen a Republican stand for any of those things, I don’t care for a certain senator who doesn’t get the big picture but I would vote for him over any republican. Sinema I don’t think I could vote for her but I would not vote for a Republican. I don’t have to like a candidate but he must vote with democrats to make this country better.

[Ping Tung]

55. I've never voted for a Republican. My priniples aren't that flexible.

[imaginary girl]

8. There's a big difference between voting for someone and endorsing them

[Queso Delicioso]

9. Well. We know where the money stands.

It seems clear to me that the donor class is very much at odds with the will of the voters.

[lostincalifornia]

24. Qu tipo de queso?

[Queso Delicioso]

35. ĄDel tipo delicioso, por supuesto!

[lostincalifornia]

37. excelente respuesta. por supuesto +++

[Jack Valentino]

65. el queso no es relevante para esta discusin

[iemanja]

79. Exactly. Nt

[Glorious bastard]

18. That's a false equivalency

However one chooses to define “blue no matter who”, Mamdani is not the only “blue” candidate running for NYC mayor. Without passing judgement on the circumstances that created this anomaly, we have three candidates in this race whose ideologies do not necessarily, or do not precisely, match the respective party tickets they are running on.

This is not unheard of. It is one of the inherent shortcomings of a two-party system.

[lostincalifornia]

23. The argument that will be presented is that he is the only candidate running as a Democrat in that race. The others

are running either as independents or republicans.

Of course, that begs the question about those who identify as independents, but caucus with the Democrats.

My point being, it can be argued either way.

[muriel_volestrangler]

44. Like fuck that can be "argued either way"

He's the Democratic nominee. There is no question "begged". You need to support him* - that is the DU argument. So do Jeffries and Schumer. Because they're Democratic leaders.

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[LeftInTX]

46. Jeffries and Schumer aren't members of DU. I saw so much Biden bashing here on DU before he dropped out.

And Tlaib did not support Kamala, so does that mean we should ask to her quit congress? No!!!

Municipal elections are very different from state and federal elections. Cities are not legislative bodies.

Also, they are not working against Mamdani. They seem lukewarm, but they aren't saying negative things about him.

Both have congratulated him and Jeffries is wishing him success if he wins, but had concerns about a few of his proposals, but hope they can work things out.

The caucus leaders in congress. They don't "run the party". Municipal is quite different. They are not the head of the DNC or the NY State Democratic Party, the New York County Democratic Party or the Queens County Democratic Party. It's the parties who are responsible for campaigns. Not elected officials.

It's these guys job to endorse:
https://manhattandemocrats.org/2025/07/manhattan-democrats-endorse-democratic-nominees/

[muriel_volestrangler]

49. Tlaib should be primaried. Luckily, she's not in a leadership role. Those who are should do their job.

"Jeffries is wishing him success if he wins" - that's not leadership, that's trying to distance himself. The USA is in its biggest constitutional crisis since the Civil War, and Jeffries is forgetting the meaning of "party", because he and his backers are uncomfortable with what New York Democratic voters want for taxation, despite sitting in a leadership role. The country, and the world, needs him to shape up.

[muriel_volestrangler]

45. Bollocks - Cuomo and Adams are both working with Republicans

https://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/politics/trump-discussed-roles-adams-sliwa-clear-path-cuomo/6383831/

[Glorious bastard]

58. Doesn't make them not Democrsts

[uponit7771]

72. They're working against the dem nominee coordinating with reps!!! Come on

[Glorious bastard]

102. I am assuming that we are still talking about Cuomo and Adams in the context of the NYC mayoral election

I am also assuming that by “coordinating” you mean working together in concert.

What are the specifics of either one coordinating with reps?

[muriel_volestrangler]

85. It makes them dangers to democracy

Collaborating with Trump is the worst thing any American can do. Anyone who does must be shunned and kept from any form of power or influence.

[Glorious bastard]

103. I am not sure if you are referring to either one of the mayoral candidates.

If you are, and if one or more of them is not Sliwa, what would be the specific examples of their collaboration with Trump?

[muriel_volestrangler]

106. Cuomo and Adams

And in a previously undisclosed call in recent weeks, Mr. Trump spoke about the race directly with Mr. Cuomo, an old associate and foil, according to three people briefed on the call, who were not authorized to discuss it.

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/08/06/nyregion/trump-nyc-mayor-cuomo-adams-mamdani.html

Adams met privately with Trump’s Middle East envoy Steve Witkoff earlier this week to discuss potential opportunities to join the Trump administration, sources familiar with the matter told CNN.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/as-questions-swirl-about-his-future-eric-adams-pushes-back-and-attacks-rivals-in-nyc-mayoral-race/ar-AA1LTZpP

[Glorious bastard]

114. Regarding Cuomo

One call in recent weeks, not clear who initiated it, not clear about the extent or relevance of their previous associations, not clear of its content. For all we know, it amounts to one not hanging up on the other. At best, much innuendo and not much grounds to imply collaboration, which usually takes more than a single phone call in the course of “recent weeks”.

And regarding Adam’s, not clear who initiated the meeting, or whether the discussion that took place amounted to any kind of collaboration. The latest I’ve heard, Adams stated yesterday that he is staying in the race. Hardly a move that suggests collaboration with Trump.

Innuendo is hardly sufficient to accuse anyone, let alone life-long Democrats, with collaborating with Trump or being a danger to democracy.

[muriel_volestrangler]

116. CNN reporting a meeting is not "innuendo"; anyway: "'I'm collaborating': how New York City's mayor gave in ...

... to Trump’s migrant crackdown

This Valentine’s Day, a new political power couple said their vows on the plush white couches of Fox & Friends in midtown Manhattan: Donald Trump’s “border czar”, Tom Homan, and the New York City mayor, Eric Adams.
...
As Adams grinned beside him, Homan said that allowing Immigration and Customs Enforcement (Ice) agents to once again roam the city’s jail complex was just “step one”.

“We’re working on some other things that we don’t really want to talk about,” Homan said, alluding to their joint efforts to circumvent New York’s “sanctuary city” law.

Then Adams, a Democrat who had risen to power vowing to protect immigrants from the president’s agenda, publicly pledged his acquiescence to the White House’s hardline immigration enforcement agenda: “Let’s be clear: I’m not standing in the way. I’m collaborating.”

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/ng-interactive/2025/feb/21/eric-adams-trump-immigrants-rikers

And Cuomo is predicting that Trump will help him defeat Mamdani, and he "feels good about that":

Cuomo: Sliwa could stay in, Sliwa could stay in, but Sliwa, I think, is minimized because I think the top Republicans will say, "Don't vote for Sliwa," and I think we'll minimize him to go down to single digits. He runs every year, Curtis Sliwa. Trump says he's the jerk with the red beret. I think we can minimize his vote because he'll never be a serious candidate, and Trump himself, as well as top Republicans, will say the goal is to stop Mamdani, and you'll be wasting your vote on Sliwa. I feel good about that.

https://www.wnyc.org/story/city-politics-cuomo-talks-trump-in-the-hamptons/

Any collaboration with Trump is a danger to democracy, because Trump is actively attacking democracy.

[Glorious bastard]

117. Perhaps you mean "association" and not "collaboration".

I still don’t see any signs of collaboration in any of the excerpts you cited.

And if associating with Trump is a sign of endangering democracy, every politician who ever had contact with Trump in any context is just as guilty.

[muriel_volestrangler]

118. No, I mean collaboration. It's the word Adams used, after all.

And it's the word we use for people who work with fascists. Bill Ackman, billionaire backer of Trump, is now backing Cuomo: https://brooklyn.news12.com/hedge-fund-manager-bill-ackman-endorses-cuomo-for-nyc-mayor

This is not about "contact", as you know full well. It's about being on the side of the fascists. Don't try and call it "association" and then say "but association means contact".

[Glorious bastard]

119. Is Cuomo collaborating with Ackman?

That would make your accusation accurate. Otherwise, it’s guilt by association, the same as your other attempts.

Really, I wasn’t expecting such zeal in discrediting Democrats, flawed as they are, when I joined Democratic Underground.

[muriel_volestrangler]

120. They're standing against the official Democratic candidate. They are our opponents.

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Cuomo has collaborated with an Ackman-funded super PAC - 'Fix the City':

NEW YORK — Billionaire hedge fund manager Bill Ackman, a prominent supporter of Republican President Donald Trump, has donated $250,000 to a super PAC boosting Andrew Cuomo’s run for New York City mayor, new campaign finance filings show.

It’s the latest example of GOP-affiliated players getting behind New York’s Democratic former governor as he vies to replace Mayor Eric Adams.

Ackman’s contribution helped the pro-Cuomo Fix the City super PAC exceed $4.8 million in donations, while an effort to blunt Cuomo’s comeback is having a much tougher time. New Yorkers for Better Leadership reported a $1,000 contribution from climate tech investor Thomas O’Keefe — its first donation of $1,000 or more since forming March 11 to castigate Cuomo’s Albany record.

https://www.politico.com/news/2025/04/14/bill-ackman-andrew-cuomo-donation-00290306

Andrew Cuomo penalized $622K in NYC mayor's race for coordinating with big-money group

New York City mayoral candidate Andrew Cuomo was penalized $622,056 Monday for breaking campaign finance rules by improperly coordinating with a super PAC dubbed Fix the City.

The city's Campaign Finance Board announced its decision to withhold the funds, pending the outcome of its investigation, at a hearing Monday where Cuomo was also awarded $1.5 million in public matching funds. Cuomo had missed out on previous rounds of matching funds due to a series of paperwork snafus.

Earlier this month, Cuomo’s campaign grabbed headlines for an obscure page on his campaign website called “A Message for Voters.” The page featured details on campaign strategy and polling data, noting Cuomo’s focus on the issue of antisemitism and the importance of Black and Latino voters between the ages of 40 and 55. Critics said the page represented “red-boxing,” where a campaign posts information for a super PAC in a location where only the PAC would see it.

https://gothamist.com/news/andrew-cuomo-penalized-600k-in-nyc-mayors-race-for-coordinating-with-big-money-group

[Glorious bastard]

121. I signed up here to support Democrats.. I support Democrats.

I will even support Democratic nominees who are not Democrats.

I can do all this without classifying other Democrats as enemies.

And I am glad other DUers don’t tell me what I signed up for.

[David__77]

105. Registered Democrats often run as independents against the Democratic candidate. Even as write-ins in presidential races

[Glorious bastard]

115. Indeed.

So do Independents running for office as Democrats against other Democrats.

Like I stated before, this is not unheard of. It is an inadvertent consequence of a two-party system.

[PufPuf23]

28. The Moderates refusal to endorse candidates insults the young, many minorities and progressives.

A poor stance for the Partys' future but pretty much my experience after 50 plus years as a Democratic voter.

Then when Democrats lose elections that should be won handily, the Moderates blame the demographics where reciprocal support has been refused.

Sames as it ever was.

[LeftInTX]

84. How often did Democrats win in the last 60 years?

McGovern did well..right?
Are you mad that Carter won?

[Keepthesoulalive]

30. Let's let New Yorkers decide

This is their election and they will decide who is best for the city.

[Nixie]

99. I remember being told that Independents were good for the

voter’s choice and we’re to be thankful they are critiquing our party. I wonder what happened to that world view.

[Keepthesoulalive]

100. We hear a lot of things

Some of the things we hear are designed to make us not think. I believe the gentleman running for mayor as a democrat has the best interests of the people of the city, but I no longer live there so I am going to watch from the sidelines.

[MuchBetterThanThis]

31. He doesn't have to endorse anyone at this point.

Continuing this firing squad mentality is only self defeating as it was in 2024 with the “Genocide Joe” shit that helped getting this disaster elected.
Jeffries has done soo much good, why cast shade because he doesn’t do what YOU want? No matter what, NYC is “blue” no matter who is the Dem. Don’t allow a Republican in

[uponit7771]

73. Why does he get a pas on 100% supporting dem nominee?!?! tia

[tclambert]

36. I just signed a petition to support ranked choice voting.

If no one gets to 50%, then the lowest candidate's votes go to those voters' second choice, rinse, repeat until someone goes over 50%.

If we'd had that in 2000, Al Gore would be President, 2004--John Kerry, 2016--Hillary Clinton. Of course, in all those elections, a simple popular vote--no electoral college--would have those results also.

[bigtree]

40. general elections are a binary choice

...if you weaken a candidate to the point where his seat is at risk then you're not doing anything but engineering another republican majority.

Moving past the outrageousness that this black man isn't any different from any of the other speakers we've had, and that he's not good enough for some Democrats who couldn't care less about representation for the black community at the highest levels of our politics, and continually sabatoge our black leaders - picking at and trying to weaken and overthrow the Democratic party leader in the House is the republicans job; or at least I used to think so.

[yardwork]

42. Hear, hear.

[LeftInTX]

41. There is a difference between mayor's race and presidential race

Tlaib was a delegate to the DNC. It was a tight presidential race and so much was at stake. As a delegate, she is obligated to vote for a presidential candidate, even if she abstains, it is still an "obligation". She used her influence to actively turn voters away from Kamala.

In this case Schumer and Jeffries are not trying to turn voters away from Mandami. It seems like Hasan is using his influence to force Schumer and Jeffries to endorse.

Municipal races are not the same as other races. Schumer and Jeffries are not delegates in the mayor's race.

They aren't obligated to endorse because the race is "different". As long as they aren't bashing Mamdani. And I don't hear them bashing Mamdani.

Jeffries has praised Mamdani's focus on affordability but has some concerns.

"We've got to figure out, moving forward, how we turn proposals into actual plans so that he is successful-if he becomes the next mayor," Jeffries said

If Mamdani was running for congress, they would be pretty much obligated to support him.
But since he's running for mayor, it's not that big of deal.

They haven't endorsed Cuomo either.

I don't believe they are doing anything detrimental to his campaign. However, they are also not in the same circles at this point either.

[uponit7771]

74. Is there a list of offices dem leadership can skip on endorsing cause I thought it was blue no matter who? Thx

[LeftInTX]

81. Did you senator get involved in your mayoral race???

I assume Schumer will vote for him. Is Schumer campaigning against him?



Is your goal to get rid of Schumer?


Maybe you will get what you wish for! Maybe you can shake up the Democratic Party and see how that turns out!

Gool luck. Been there done that. 1972 was a good election. ”So was 1968.

I warned people in 2024. Got in fights here. Scared we were gonna lose.

I have known @ZohranKMamdani since we worked together to provide debt relief for thousands of beleaguered taxi drivers & fought to stop a fracked gas plant in Astoria,” Schumer posted on X. “He ran an impressive campaign that connected with New Yorkers about affordability, fairness, & opportunity.”

I'm old and ready to give up. Seriously. I'm old and sick. Maybe we need to die and you guys need to run the country. I've had it. I'm sick of it. Too old to move away. Once again, I'm just old and tired of revolution stuff. It's been going on for 60 years! Maybe after 60 years, you can turn it around. Run a successful, progressive winning party. Run it George McGovern style. Keep trying. I'm too old to try it all over again.

[LeftInTX]

83. Did Mandani endorse Schumer or Jeffries? Can you find out?

This is really, really important!!!

[uponit7771]

107. I'd agree if context was the same ... It's not

[Bluetus]

57. Democrats need to look at the party establishment with eyes wide open

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I listened to an interview with a Democratic lady who is considering running for Hoyer's seat, assuming he will be retiring, as he should.

The upshot of that interview is that the Party's interests often do not align with the grass roots. The Party consistently tries to run candidates that are uninspiring, but will toe the Party Line. And they do everything in their power to block people whom they see as a threat to their generations-old power. That is to say, party insiders always seem to have jobs whether we win or lose. Ironically, that inner circle may actually be more employable when we are OUT of power, trying to get back in.

We see this growing gap between the Dem Party establishment and what I would call the voices of grass roots Americans. We see this played out with the ousting of David Hogg, Pelosi's frequent kneecapping of AOC, and the constant attacks on Bernie. And we're now seeing the same things with Mamdani and Plattner who are laying our EXACTLY the populist messages we need in order to win.

This Maryland Democrat (and I'm sorry I didn't get her name) is giving voice to the things that most people are so angry about in today's America. And sadly, she has decided that if she runs, it will be as an Independent because the Party will do everything possible to promote a milquetoast person ahead of her.

It should not be this way. I have voted for Democrats in almost every election since 1976, and have campaigned for many of them. But I cannot stand with how the party operates and I decided several elections ago that I had to make my donations directly to candidates, and will never give another penny to the Party's various committees and PACs.

[Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin]

59. I've listened to Mamdani speak

His rhetoric is rather positive and not radical bomb throwing. Makes you wonder why so many oppose him.

[LeftInTX]

60. Schumer and Jeffries aren't opposed to him.

I think they're just reluctant to publicly endorse him probably because they're known the Cuomo family for so many decades. (I know how that goes)

Plus it's still early.

The local Democratic parties are supporting him and that is what matters!

There is that one Rep in NY who is acting like a jerk, but this article is about Schumer and Jeffries and how "They must go" because they haven't endorsed Mamdani. I'm pretty sure Mamdani is going to win.

I wouldn't be surprised if the author of the article starts bashing the DNC if they haven't endorsed in this race. But usually the DNC does not get involved in city elections! Heck, I wouldn't be surprised if the author starts bashing the Texas Democratic Party because it hasn't endorsed Mamdani in the NYC mayor's race! I felt that the author was "off point"....

[Bluetus]

62. Oh, come on, now.

Mamdani won the DEMOCRATIC PARTY PRIMARY running away 56-44. Since when is it acceptable for the two most prominent Democrats in NY state to NOT endorse the DEMOCRATIC PRIMARY WINNER?

These are the things that have driven so many people to give up identifying as Democrats.

Whose side are Schumer and Jeffries on, anyway?

[LeftInTX]

86. Did Mandani endorse Schumer and Jeffries? Can you find out?

I'm old. The young people can take over! Maybe Chuck will throw in the towel. Maybe Jeffries will throw in the towel. Maybe everyone will get sick of this bickering and just quit. Maybe all the other Dems that you don't like will quit.

Heck with it. I'm old. I'm gonna die soon. Hell with it. I won't be around anyway. I wanted to make the world a better place, but throwing everyone out radical style is not my legacy in life. Hate to see it end this way....But it's your game now.

[Bluetus]

94. Why would he? He wasn't in any political office

I doubt if anybody ever asked him. But if one is a candidate running as a Democrat or if one is holding an office as Democrat, I would expect that person to accept the will of the people, period.

When a Democrat winds the Party's primary, especially in such a decisive way, every elected Dem had better either give the winner their full-throated support or at least STFU and stay out of the way. Schumer and Jeffries are actively working AGAINST the clear primary winner. F those guys.

[Emile]

87. "We have a Democratic nominee. Are we a party who rallies behind our nominee or not?," Ocasio-Cortez,

[Nixie]

63. Maybe Jeffries knows that Momdani didn't vote for Harris.

Wasn’t Momdani part of an organized group against Harris? Edit: Uncommitted Movement and Leave it Blank. What a waste.

[iemanja]

78. Do you have some evidence to support

that accusation? It sounds like you don’t even know of it’s true.

Are you pissed off because the sexual predator and Trump collaborator didn’t get the Dem nomination?

[PunkinPi]

93. Well, here are tweets put out by Mamdani...

[iemanja]

98. Seems persuasive

Does that mean you'll support another candidate: the sexual predator and Trump collaborator. the criminal, or the Republican?

[PunkinPi]

108. You asked for evidence Mamdani supported "Leave it Blank" and

"Uncommitted" movements, seems from his tweets he did. I'm not in NYC and the mayoral race there is up to them.

[betsuni]

109. The personal attacks directed at you and others in this thread are really unnecessary, rude.

[PunkinPi]

112. Agreed, but unfortunately, not surprised. :( nt

[AZCat]

113. Those appear to be referring to primary races.

I think it is okay for us to differentiate between the primary and the general. I mean, the primary election is *all* blue candidates. "Vote blue no matter who" doesn't seem as applicable there as it does for the general election.

[LexVegas]

66. Most of the country doesnt give a shit. nt

[LeftInTX]

68. Exactly! Geez! I didn't even know that this was a "problem" until this thread!

[betsuni]

71. Exactly what I was thinking.

[W_HAMILTON]

69. There wasn't this uproar when Jeffries didn't endorse Eric Adams in 2021...

If Mamdani needs the endorsement of Jeffries to win a race in what should be a very blue NYC, that worries me about the claims that he is the type of leader we need to motivate voters and his policies are the future...

[ms liberty]

88. I agree with your post, but this thread

Is a sh*tshiw and should have been locked for refighting prior elections. Not your fault or anything, just DU being DU.
Geez, people.

[Scrivener7]

89. Any Democrat who, when asked, doesn't give full-throated support to strong Democratic primary winners -

no matter what level of government - is telling us very clearly that they don't really understand what is going on in the country today.

There's a lot of questions in this thread about whether this one endorsed that one. That isn't the point. Democrats were ASKED. And when asked, they failed to give full-throated support to the Democratic candidate.

That's lunacy. Any Democrat that doesn't give full-throated support to another Democratic candidate when asked by the press right now is an idiot and is not serving our country.

[Emile]

90. Are we a party who rallies behind our nominee or not? AOC

[multigraincracker]

91. My dad was the greatest man I ever knew personally.

I put him right up there with Mark Twain, use to say “I’ve been a Democrat all my life, I vote for them or against them”.
One way to look at it.

[Autumn]

92. Funny how that works isn't it.

[mathematic]

95. Both Eric Adams and Andrew Cuomo are democrats

I don't think either has changed their party affiliation.

Of course all this is missing the point of the phrase, which is both "don't let republicans win by voting for spoilers" and "ensure the democrats have a governing majority". Neither concern is relevant for city politics in general and NYC politics in particular.

[Scrivener7]

96. Mamdani is the Democratic party candidate chosen by the electorate. Adams and Cuomo are running as Independents.

[thebigidea]

101. I don't get what the whining is about. Nobody ever pressures Bernie or AOC to endorse some purple state centrist

[BlueTsunami2018]

104. The ruling class always supports the ruling class.

People might not like to hear this but it’s the truth.

Mamdani represents some truly “frightening” ideas to the ruling class. Public transportation, free? Housing the homeless? Feeding the poor? Paying for it by taxing the rulers more? OMG! Noooooo! How “radical.”

We have Democratic representatives openly saying they don’t want Memdani in the party at all. Those ideas have no place in the party and he should form his own.

Fuck that. Those ideas are exactly what the Democratic Party should be embracing and more.

Most everyone here was full square behind OWS, here’s a candidate that embraces a lot of those ideals and somehow HE’S the problem.

We need to be stressing the class war because that’s what it’s all about. We get so distracted with all the culture war nonsense that we lose sight of what actually matters and we give the fascists easy potshots.

But the ruling class lives off those distractions, that infighting among the workers, whatever party they belong to.

We need to not only embrace Memdani and his platform but spread it far and wide. Workers first!

That should be the platform and the answer to every idiotic culture war “gotcha” question.

But that’s not going to happen unless WE force it.

We’d better figure this out quick before we’re all crushed under the jackboots.

[Nimble_Idea]

110. I will stand with the progressives on this one.