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[Pachamama]

1. The ultimate Petrdish....

I don’t even want to imagine the family superspreaders to come….

[RockRaven]

2. We don't need to imagine too hard, we have the 2014/5 Disneyland measles outbreak to look at.

As a Disney disliker to start with, this just adds to the repulsion.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disneyland_measles_outbreak

200+ cases across 3 countries and 7 states. Note the cause of the magnitude/distribution of the outbreak.

The Disneyland measles outbreak began at the Disneyland Resort, California, in December 2014, and spread to seven states in the United States, Mexico, and Canada, before it was declared over in mid-April 2015.

The first case of measles was reported on January 5, 2015, in an unvaccinated 11-year-old Californian resident. Between December 2014 and March 2015, 131 Californians were infected, with almost 90% of cases occurring in southern California. Linked to the California cases were 16 cases in six other US states, 159 cases in a religious group in Québec, Canada, and one case in Mexico. Almost all the Canadian cases were unvaccinated. The source of the initial Disney theme park exposure was not identified, but specimens from several cases matched with the recent measles outbreak in the Philippines.

It triggered an international debate on vaccine hesitancy, particularly as it had spread to people who intentionally declined the vaccine and put vulnerable people who could not have the vaccine at risk. The outbreak prompted the California Senate Bill 277, laws that reverted the California personal belief vaccine exemption. Conclusions following examination of the outbreak pointed to undervaccination as a key cause.

[Attilatheblond]

3. Every day, I read news that makes me think the ultra rich just want most people to die so they can get everything

Vultures with hunger that can never be sated, willing to allow/do anything that will kill people.

[AZJonnie]

4. That supposition sure makes some sense out of a hell of a lot of seemingly stupid shit

I've had the same thought, many times. My addt'l CT is I think they may also be aware of something about the worlds fossil fuel reserves being a lot less than the general public is aware of. Pretty much the day those supplies cannot keep up with demand due to permanent depletion is one where the entire world will forever change, and each individual life will become worth drastically less in the eyes of the powerful (and it will filter down from there). Fact is, there are 8B people on the planet for one reason only, and that reason is fossil fuels (well, that, and sex lol).

I also think TPTB may actually say "we've hit Peak Oil" before the planet actually does, because it will cause a hell of a lot of people's mindsets to change in a way that more reflects their own (one that is more dog-eat-dog and competitive, rather than the more cooperative and generous mindset that liberals tend to have).

I think crypto and AI are also both means by which the population can be culled drastically without the rich having to suffer as much as they otherwise would have due to the population dwindling.

[Attilatheblond]

7. More than the end of fossil fuels, I fear the end of safe water

Where I live, the battle is on for the last of the fossil WATER. Phoenix is in a world of hurt, as is Tucson and all the areas between and around. Arizona is not alone in low water.

The powers that be might be hoping enough of us die of other causes + violence so our numbers are whittled down to where the very VERY rich will be able to hold us off.

Soylent Green might be people, but water is the basis for life and we are running out.

[AZJonnie]

8. It's the combination in my mind, really, but yeah, water in some areas will become more urgent more quickly

However, since water on earth is essentially a closed system, the real issue is the combo of location + suitability for purpose. IOW, if you throw enough *energy* (for which money is essentially just a proxy) at any water problem, it can be solved. The trouble is, we're gonna start running out of our one-time bounty of stored ancient sunlight around the same time that rain patterns are shifting due to ACC, leaving vast regions in a very sorry state for both water, and energy.

[Nittersing]

9. Hell. Even Norway is running out of water

https://uk.news.yahoo.com/norway-electricity-crisis-hit-britain-063000888.html

"Stop someone on the street in London and ask them about interconnectors and chances are they will look at you blankly. But in Oslo, energy trading through these massive undersea cables has become a major issue. And one with huge implications for Britain.

There is a real chance that Norway will run out of water this winter, meaning it will not be able to maintain electricity supplies to Great Britain. Norway could be forced to restrict exports under new powers which allow them to be restricted if there is a prospect of hydrological shortages. And not just once the shortages manifest.

With elections to the Norwegian parliament on Sept 8, this is a hot button issue – as low water levels lead to high prices for consumers.

Reservoir levels in southern Norway are now well below the 20-year average and heading towards 20-year lows. This is hugely concerning. Norway has almost no pumping capability which means that once the water has been used, it will not be replaced until it rains or the snow melts."

[Iris]

5. Imagine kids served by the Make a Wish Foundation - I'm sure this is a popular destination