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deminks

(11,537 posts)
Thu Sep 4, 2025, 07:44 PM Sep 2025

Massie names billionaire in Epstein's little black book

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Mueller, She Wrote (@muellershewrote.com) 2025-09-04T22:53:00.989Z


Rep. Massie dropped a bomb: Billionaire John Paulson, top GOP donor, bankroller of the Speaker, and Trump’s campaign, is in Epstein’s black book.

This is why they’re terrified of a full release.
The truth won’t just expose Epstein.
It will expose the powerful who enabled him.

End snip.

Bankroller of psuedochristian MAGAt Mike and the 🍊 🐔 💩 🤡 💣 murderer.









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Massie names billionaire in Epstein's little black book (Original Post) deminks Sep 2025 OP
Warm up the indictment pad. Time for a Federal Grand Jury. marble falls Sep 2025 #1
And how will that happen? Pam Bondi's DOJ? johnnyfins Sep 2025 #26
Statute Of Limitations... GB_RN Sep 2025 #31
Statute of limitations was already up on pedophile cpamomfromtexas Sep 2025 #70
Oh, Yeah. GB_RN Sep 2025 #77
GO MASSIE! Faux pas Sep 2025 #2
Agreed. Protect that man. Trump has already hinted at trying to murder him SSJVegeta Sep 2025 #35
Drip, drip, drip C_U_L8R Sep 2025 #3
Rut roh... n/t the nelm Sep 2025 #13
"PedoPosse".... nt sprinkleeninow Sep 2025 #25
Maybe the 'trickle-down effect' will work here. 🤔 sheshe2 Sep 2025 #4
As Massie said, it was already public. Good to say it though. The news is Massey actually said it. Apparently, at mobeau69 Sep 2025 #5
Billionaire Paulson donated to an anti-Massie PAC, along with Paul Singer lostnfound Sep 2025 #15
Time to lawyer up perv boy Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Sep 2025 #6
Kick SheltieLover Sep 2025 #7
Im wishing and hoping mikenash54 Sep 2025 #8
Yeah, being in someone's contact list does not automatically make them a pedo. usedtobedemgurl Sep 2025 #51
True, there are many people who were friendly with Epstein radical noodle Sep 2025 #57
Of course. usedtobedemgurl Sep 2025 #80
Let the chips and the chumps fall where they may. Joinfortmill Sep 2025 #9
All very interesting, but I have a feeling MLWR Sep 2025 #10
I think it's all about shaming and ostracizing them now. Ilsa Sep 2025 #17
I thought i heard on the news, yesterday, usedtobedemgurl Sep 2025 #52
Biden signed a bill in 2022. brakester Sep 2025 #79
No wonder so many pervs came out to vote for Trump. GreenWave Sep 2025 #81
KICK a thousand bluestarone Sep 2025 #11
So he gave up information that we already had ToxMarz Sep 2025 #12
There were at least 10 different versions of Epstein's "little black book" FakeNoose Sep 2025 #14
Epstein had both home and work numbers for Paulson in his black book. Wiz Imp Sep 2025 #62
Maybe Epstein was laundering money for Paulson FakeNoose Sep 2025 #74
Can't find a thing about Paulson that's controversial, except his bitter divorce battle after 21 yrs of marriage. ancianita Sep 2025 #16
There are going to be many many more. SSJVegeta Sep 2025 #19
They're not terrified because they're not elected and not trump and won't be charged by ancianita Sep 2025 #20
There will be unwanted attention on them nonetheless SSJVegeta Sep 2025 #24
Probably all that. But ancianita Sep 2025 #27
Im not so worried about winning the next election SSJVegeta Sep 2025 #38
rebuilding this debacle is the project of generations. rampartd Sep 2025 #58
And how will they show their face at church anymore? vanlassie Sep 2025 #40
Believe me. We havent seen anything yet. SSJVegeta Sep 2025 #41
Massie has instantly earned my respect SSJVegeta Sep 2025 #18
Seriously? He couldn't get the discharge votes. ancianita Sep 2025 #28
If one issue is going to completely destroy the billionaires and Trump, then yes. SSJVegeta Sep 2025 #29
IF. It's the biggest hypothetical little word in the world. ancianita Sep 2025 #34
We are dangerously and meticulously close to not ever having an election again SSJVegeta Sep 2025 #36
Nope. Fuck that guy. Tommy Carcetti Sep 2025 #43
The GOP you named said words. They were all talk no action SSJVegeta Sep 2025 #54
Massie is one of the few Congress people who will not accept AIPAC money womanofthehills Sep 2025 #83
Figures DET Sep 2025 #21
More, please. xuplate Sep 2025 #22
Kick orangecrush Sep 2025 #23
So he knows this billionaire is on the list choie Sep 2025 #30
John Paulson being on it was already known. Just not to the majority of the public until now. Karasu Sep 2025 #32
I did not hear him say trump was not in the Epstein phone book. usedtobedemgurl Sep 2025 #50
The complete unredacted black book can be found here Wiz Imp Sep 2025 #64
This message was self-deleted by its author Wiz Imp Sep 2025 #67
It doesn't mean that. What he says is just one name of all those others he COULD name. ancianita Sep 2025 #69
Put the names that survivors compile in a hat Iwasthere Sep 2025 #33
This. Play hardball. yardwork Sep 2025 #53
Does this just mean hist contact information was held by Epstein or does it link to sexual abuse? Melon Sep 2025 #37
How did Massie come by this info? Bayard Sep 2025 #39
I believe the book is public. usedtobedemgurl Sep 2025 #49
The complete unredacted black book can be found here Wiz Imp Sep 2025 #63
I see recognizable names: Bayard Sep 2025 #71
The Duke of York is Prince Andrew Kaleva Sep 2025 #72
Donald Trump is on there on numbered page 85 Wiz Imp Sep 2025 #76
How did I miss that? Bayard Sep 2025 #86
Finally! A brave Republican! wolfie001 Sep 2025 #42
Statute of Limitations NEVER runs out for the victims... MiHale Sep 2025 #44
Powerful meaning oligarch blackmailers. Kid Berwyn Sep 2025 #45
Drip, Drip, Drip Emile Sep 2025 #46
Speaker johnson's (r) republicon sugar daddy? BoRaGard Sep 2025 #47
He did not implicate Paulsen usedtobedemgurl Sep 2025 #48
I suspect a lot of men in corporate mass media board rooms are also in Epstein's Black Book. sop Sep 2025 #55
If Trump wants to fight crime, he should have this Emile Sep 2025 #56
Follow the money. The men named in Epstein's various lists might or might not have been Ocelot II Sep 2025 #59
John Paulson has been backing Trump since his first 2016 campaign IronLionZion Sep 2025 #60
Republicon "values" so severely twisted BoRaGard Sep 2025 #87
Everybody but Trump .... live love laugh Sep 2025 #61
And a Republican at that. republianmushroom Sep 2025 #65
At the Press Conference, the one person explicitly named was Lex Wexner Wiz Imp Sep 2025 #66
I found this site where you can search for a name Wiz Imp Sep 2025 #68
I don't think any of this is about prosecution, at this point, it's about outing pedophiles... mucholderthandirt Sep 2025 #73
I agree. EndlessWire Sep 2025 #84
GOOD!!! calimary Sep 2025 #75
Major donor of the Speaker of the House? You know I've called him Li'l Pervy all along... Hekate Sep 2025 #78
K&R UTUSN Sep 2025 #82
K&R red dog 1 Sep 2025 #85

GB_RN

(3,586 posts)
31. Statute Of Limitations...
Thu Sep 4, 2025, 10:17 PM
Sep 2025

Has run out on that. Federal SoL is 5 years for most crimes, if I’m not mistaken. Had it been murder, it would be another story.

cpamomfromtexas

(1,498 posts)
70. Statute of limitations was already up on pedophile
Fri Sep 5, 2025, 01:15 PM
Sep 2025

“Preacher” robert morris, the Gateway church pedophile who sa’d a 12 year old in Texas and Oklahoma over 30 years ago. He’s being charged in Okiahoma under a law that said if you committed a crime and then left the state the statute of limitations isn’t suspended.

I wonder if other states where these crimes occurred have similar laws?

GB_RN

(3,586 posts)
77. Oh, Yeah.
Fri Sep 5, 2025, 04:02 PM
Sep 2025

Might vary a bit from state to state as to how long for the same crime, but I’m pretty sure that regardless of federal or state, the only crime that SoL (no pun intended) doesn’t apply to, is murder.

The alleged reason behind SoL is because evidence disappears, chain of evidence can be compromised, and the biggy? Memories. Why? Because we know they change over time. Memory is definitively, inherently fallible.

And that’s ironic because we give eyewitness testimony the highest level of credibility, but it is the absolute least reliable form of evidence: every time you recall an event, your brain actually changes the memory a bit. Think of it like a digital file: lots of 0s and 1s making up that data. Your computer might, unintentionally, accidentally write a 1 where a 0 should have been. Now, that write error might not be fatal for the file, but add up enough transcription errors, and your data are shot.

C_U_L8R

(49,520 posts)
3. Drip, drip, drip
Thu Sep 4, 2025, 07:50 PM
Sep 2025

Trump's pedophile posse is gonna wish they'd just released the whole thing at once long ago.
Tick, tick, tick

mobeau69

(12,462 posts)
5. As Massie said, it was already public. Good to say it though. The news is Massey actually said it. Apparently, at
Thu Sep 4, 2025, 07:59 PM
Sep 2025

least one goober has a line he won’t cross.

lostnfound

(17,630 posts)
15. Billionaire Paulson donated to an anti-Massie PAC, along with Paul Singer
Thu Sep 4, 2025, 08:54 PM
Sep 2025
https://www.politico.com/live-updates/2025/07/31/congress/maga-ky-super-pac-donors-00487931
Launched by Trump because Massie voted against the ‘big beautiful billshit’.

GOP megadonor Paul Singer was the largest donor to a super PAC seeking to oust Rep. Thomas Massie (R-Ky.) last month, according to a filing submitted to the Federal Election Commission on Thursday.

The group, MAGA KY, raised $2 million between its launch in late June and the end of the month:
$1 million from Singer
$250,000 from hedge fund manager John Paulson
$750,000 from Preserve America PAC, a super PAC tied to Miriam Adelson that backed President Donald Trump last year


usedtobedemgurl

(2,068 posts)
51. Yeah, being in someone's contact list does not automatically make them a pedo.
Fri Sep 5, 2025, 09:40 AM
Sep 2025

Now, if the victims spoke out and said he was, that could amount to something.

radical noodle

(10,689 posts)
57. True, there are many people who were friendly with Epstein
Fri Sep 5, 2025, 10:12 AM
Sep 2025

and likely didn't even know what he was up to. Still, someone who tries so hard to cover it up may well have something to feel guilty about.

usedtobedemgurl

(2,068 posts)
80. Of course.
Fri Sep 5, 2025, 04:26 PM
Sep 2025

I believe there is a high likelihood he is guilty, but we have to deal with the facts we know. Does he look guilty? Sure. Do I think he is guilty? Absolutely. Do I want us to have better reading skills than Magats? Absolutely.

MLWR

(1,076 posts)
10. All very interesting, but I have a feeling
Thu Sep 4, 2025, 08:05 PM
Sep 2025

that in most jurisdictions, the statute of limitations will attach. However, everyone of these pedos should be shamed out of existence.

Ilsa

(64,563 posts)
17. I think it's all about shaming and ostracizing them now.
Thu Sep 4, 2025, 09:00 PM
Sep 2025

I believe the statute of limitations ran out long ago. But I suppose some of them have families or spouses to answer to, or maybe they seek to protect a religious leadership position.

usedtobedemgurl

(2,068 posts)
52. I thought i heard on the news, yesterday,
Fri Sep 5, 2025, 09:42 AM
Sep 2025

The sol has not run out for the victims. I mean, it was not long ago Epstein was convicted as well as his sidekick, who is still in jail.

brakester

(623 posts)
79. Biden signed a bill in 2022.
Fri Sep 5, 2025, 04:22 PM
Sep 2025

Biden signs bill eliminating civil statute of limitations for child sex abuse victims
by Chloe Folmar - 09/17/22 4:24 PM
https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/3647958-biden-signs-bill-eliminating-civil-statute-of-limitations-for-child-sex-abuse-victims/

As in everything, the devil is in the details:

AI Overview
There is no single statute of limitations on child molestation in the U.S.; the time limit depends on the state and whether the case is civil or criminal, with many states eliminating or significantly extending them due to laws enacted in recent years. For civil cases, the new federal Eliminating Limits to Justice for Child Sex Abuse Victims Act eliminated civil statutes of limitations for claims of child sexual abuse, exploitation, and trafficking, and many states have also passed similar laws allowing claims at any time. In criminal cases, federal law has no statute of limitations for child pornography offenses, and many states have removed or extended criminal statutes of limitations for child sex crimes, though specific timelines can still vary by state.


ToxMarz

(3,061 posts)
12. So he gave up information that we already had
Thu Sep 4, 2025, 08:24 PM
Sep 2025

and now he's a brave truthsayer. He didn't do shit, just a distraction to appear like he's on the right side of justice and and placate his critics without pissing off his overlord(s).

FakeNoose

(42,383 posts)
14. There were at least 10 different versions of Epstein's "little black book"
Thu Sep 4, 2025, 08:54 PM
Sep 2025

Last edited Fri Sep 5, 2025, 10:56 AM - Edit history (1)

He must have made books and lost them all over Manhattan. I don't know, and I could care less.
This was before the days of cellphones and those little pocket-sized phone books were everywhere.
For all we know, maybe John Paulson never knew that Epstein had his phone number.
Having someone's phone number doesn't mean he supplied illegal escorts to them.

FakeNoose

(42,383 posts)
74. Maybe Epstein was laundering money for Paulson
Fri Sep 5, 2025, 02:13 PM
Sep 2025

I have no idea whether he did or not. But he didn't get extremely wealthy by being a casual pimp either.

ancianita

(43,344 posts)
16. Can't find a thing about Paulson that's controversial, except his bitter divorce battle after 21 yrs of marriage.
Thu Sep 4, 2025, 08:58 PM
Sep 2025

Last edited Thu Sep 4, 2025, 09:33 PM - Edit history (1)

And the fact that he donated and helped Trump fundraise. Looked across lots of business and other sources. I missed the Politico piece. So yeah, it seems that he's tight with the right wing donor class.
I can't figure why they invest in toadies. It's as if they'd be poor if a Koch network didn't operate a move-fast-and-break-things insurgency on the government in order to protect them.

from a quick survey...

Paulson has been a major fundraiser for Donald Trump's 2024 campaign.[29][30] On April 6, 2024, the Trump campaign self-reported a $50.5 million fundraising haul at John Paulson's Palm Beach house.[31] Trump reportedly considered Paulson to become Secretary of the Treasury, but Scott Bessent was chosen instead.[32]

Wealth and philanthropy
Between 2009 and 2011 Paulson made several charitable donations, including
$15 million to the Center for Responsible Lending,
$20 million to New York University Stern School of Business (auditorium now named after Paulson; also where Barron was last seen attending class)
$5 million to the Southampton Hospital on Long Island,
$15 million to build a children's hospital in Guayaquil, Ecuador, and
£2.5 million to the London School of Economics for the John A. Paulson Chair in European Political Economy.[33][34][35]

In October 2012, Paulson donated $100 million to the Central Park Conservancy, the nonprofit organization that maintains New York City's Central Park. At the time of the donation, the gift represented the largest monetary donation in the history of New York City's park system.[36]
In June 2015, Paulson donated
$400 million to Harvard University's School of Engineering and Applied Sciences (SEAS), the largest gift received in the university's history. Following the donation, the engineering school was renamed the Harvard John A. Paulson School of Engineering and Applied Sciences.[37][38]
The next month, he gifted
$8.5 million to New York City's largest charter school organization, Success Academy, to change public education and open up middle schools in the Bedford-Stuyvesant area of Brooklyn and in the Hell's Kitchen area of Manhattan.[39]

In 2022, New York University announced that Paulson had donated $100 million towards the cost of a new building in its Washington Square Campus. The building was named the John A. Paulson Center in recognition of the gift. [40]

In 2024, the Hebrew University of Jerusalem awarded Paulson an honorary doctorate in recognition of his extensive philanthropic contributions to Israeli cultural and educational institutions.
His support for Israeli initiatives includes a
$27 million commitment to establish the Paulson Bar-El Building for Computer Science and Engineering at Hebrew University.
Paulson also contributed significantly to the Tel Aviv Museum of Art in 2021 to celebrate the museum's 90th anniversary and has supported the Jerusalem Campus for the Arts.[41]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Paulson#Political_and_economic_views

and The Guardian
https://www.theguardian.com/business/2015/jun/04/hedge-fund-boss-john-paulson-gives-a-record-400m-donation-to-harvard

ancianita

(43,344 posts)
20. They're not terrified because they're not elected and not trump and won't be charged by
Thu Sep 4, 2025, 09:14 PM
Sep 2025

this doj and they'll still be rich and unless the victims actually name them as perpetrators, there's no known jurisdiction that can begin investigations of these crimes.

But one can dream, right?

SSJVegeta

(3,109 posts)
24. There will be unwanted attention on them nonetheless
Thu Sep 4, 2025, 09:35 PM
Sep 2025

It will crash their stock, hurt their company's and associates' reputation and potentially even turn them into the worst possible thing imaginable to them: Millionaires.

These scandals alone can lose these people billions of dollars. Theres a reason they spend billions to buy the politicians who protect them. But even not all politicians can be bought.

ancianita

(43,344 posts)
27. Probably all that. But
Thu Sep 4, 2025, 09:49 PM
Sep 2025

without knowing who they donate to at election time (and believe me, theirs is dark money) just how is all this really going to help us win the next two cycles?

I mean, this epsteinepsteinepstein has to get out the Democratic vote so we win, right?
Then what do we do while we're cleaning up epic amounts of legislative, judicial branches and agencies of government, not to mention all the economic and social damage?
Who will be the AG to do get all that done legally? Kamala Harris? Marc Elias?

Our winning will have to be because of all of the above. If we win the next four battles through 2028,
the 2029 America rebuild back better will have to be of biblical proportions.

SSJVegeta

(3,109 posts)
38. Im not so worried about winning the next election
Thu Sep 4, 2025, 11:30 PM
Sep 2025

As I am having the next election.

This issue if (yes "if" ) it continues down this path -and it appears to nearly be a runaway train, will be so damaging politically (and to the billionaires who will absolutely lose billions of dollars from the PR damage alone) that there will no longer be any support for Trump within his party -as so much of it has been manufactured and kept standing on the flimsy toothpick pillars of billionaire greed. .

rampartd

(5,022 posts)
58. rebuilding this debacle is the project of generations.
Fri Sep 5, 2025, 10:14 AM
Sep 2025

our institutions must be strengthened and made more flexible, and every cockroach from mara lago eliminated.

ancianita

(43,344 posts)
28. Seriously? He couldn't get the discharge votes.
Thu Sep 4, 2025, 09:58 PM
Sep 2025

Is this guy...

https://www.wsj.com/politics/policy/trump-massie-epstein-files-0c4b49ed

...the same guy who was touted by the Federalist Society?

https://fedsoc.org/contributors/thomas-massie

Is one issue all that's needed to be that easily impressed? Ever heard of the broken clock analogy?

SSJVegeta

(3,109 posts)
29. If one issue is going to completely destroy the billionaires and Trump, then yes.
Thu Sep 4, 2025, 10:04 PM
Sep 2025

Also the discharge petition will pass by October specifically because of Masssie, Mace, Boebert and MTG. Because in October there will be two more Dems in congress. Im sensing those four individuals are having a very stark metamorphosis into what the world they conceive actually is -and truly appear to be putting human beings over power.

This Epstein list won't just destroy Trump, it may cripple the ironclad hold that billionaires have had for decades on both parties.

ancianita

(43,344 posts)
34. IF. It's the biggest hypothetical little word in the world.
Thu Sep 4, 2025, 10:50 PM
Sep 2025

"...it may cripple the ironclad hold?" I hope you're right. I don't want to be cynical, since we fight the good fights, but in the interests of being practical, know that the Koch network of right wing billionaires and dark money are winning. Which party the rest of billionaires (a rather elite club, imo) choose to help win depends on whether those other billionaires' idea of America involves democracy.

Sure, we outnumber them. I'll be watching the polls and the election vote counts, like everyone else.

SSJVegeta

(3,109 posts)
36. We are dangerously and meticulously close to not ever having an election again
Thu Sep 4, 2025, 10:51 PM
Sep 2025

It is those four misfits that could, strangely enough, keep that from happening.

Tommy Carcetti

(44,583 posts)
43. Nope. Fuck that guy.
Fri Sep 5, 2025, 08:41 AM
Sep 2025

I can respect a Republican who manages to do right despite my fundamental disagreements with him or her on various issues or principles.

McCain and Romney, for example. Adam Kinzinger. Liz Cheney, despite my disdain for her father.

But those are/were real, legitimate politicians.

Massie's a clown. MTG is a clown. James O'Keefe is a clown.

I'm not going to be fooled into thinking those people are in any way our allies.

SSJVegeta

(3,109 posts)
54. The GOP you named said words. They were all talk no action
Fri Sep 5, 2025, 09:58 AM
Sep 2025

Nance Mace praised trump, called him a victim and then took an action that simultaneously can destroy him and their donors. Actions very clearly speak louder than words.

womanofthehills

(11,030 posts)
83. Massie is one of the few Congress people who will not accept AIPAC money
Fri Sep 5, 2025, 06:46 PM
Sep 2025

I like him for that and for voting against bombs for genocide. MTG is also making the rounds speaking up against genocide. Both of them are appealing to young Republicans who are more anti war. Trump hates Massie.

DET

(2,599 posts)
21. Figures
Thu Sep 4, 2025, 09:14 PM
Sep 2025

Paulson is a hedge fund manager who made billions from the 2008 financial crisis.

choie

(6,989 posts)
30. So he knows this billionaire is on the list
Thu Sep 4, 2025, 10:12 PM
Sep 2025

Last edited Fri Sep 5, 2025, 02:09 PM - Edit history (1)

But not trump?

Karasu

(2,066 posts)
32. John Paulson being on it was already known. Just not to the majority of the public until now.
Thu Sep 4, 2025, 10:23 PM
Sep 2025

usedtobedemgurl

(2,068 posts)
50. I did not hear him say trump was not in the Epstein phone book.
Fri Sep 5, 2025, 09:38 AM
Sep 2025

That is where Paulson's name came from in this context. Not flight manifests or victims. It is from Epstein's personal contact book.

Response to Wiz Imp (Reply #64)

ancianita

(43,344 posts)
69. It doesn't mean that. What he says is just one name of all those others he COULD name.
Fri Sep 5, 2025, 12:48 PM
Sep 2025

He's giving one name just to show he knows who's on the list, that's all.

Melon

(1,682 posts)
37. Does this just mean hist contact information was held by Epstein or does it link to sexual abuse?
Thu Sep 4, 2025, 11:10 PM
Sep 2025

usedtobedemgurl

(2,068 posts)
49. I believe the book is public.
Fri Sep 5, 2025, 09:35 AM
Sep 2025

I think I remember reading a bunch of names from it in the news. Massive says it is public in that interview snippet.

Bayard

(30,260 posts)
71. I see recognizable names:
Fri Sep 5, 2025, 01:27 PM
Sep 2025

Taking one for the team by looking through these....
Alec Baldwin
Mike Bloomberg
Mr & Mrs Jimmy Buffet
Phil Collins
Minnie Driver
Duchess of York
Duke of York
Ralph Fiennes
Mick Jagger
Dr. Henry Kissinger
Christopher Lambert
Rupert Murdoch
Joan Rivers
Maria Shriver
Kevin Spacey
Ivana and Ivanka Trump
Barbara Walters
Dr. Ruth Westheimer
Lots of Maxwells, a few Kennedys

I'm thinking some of these have been inserted, like some Soro's
I see plenty of couples and women
The former PM of Israel being escorted by Secret Service on Epstein's plane???
Notably absent: Donald trump, Bill Clinton, Prince Andrew

Wiz Imp

(10,398 posts)
76. Donald Trump is on there on numbered page 85
Fri Sep 5, 2025, 03:17 PM
Sep 2025

14 different phone numbers are listed under his name

Bill Clinton isn't listed, but there is a listing for Doug Bands and immediately under his name it says "Office of Bill Clinton"

There is a listing for Duke of York (Prince Andrew is the Duke of York)

None of these have been "inserted". This is a verified actual copy of Epstein's black book. If a person is listed here that means Epstein legitimately had them on his contact list for some reason. Just because they were on the contact list means nothing other than they had contact with him at some point. I would guess the vast majority of people on the list did nothing wrong and did not know of Eptein's proclivites.

Epstein's connection to Ehud Barak has long been known.
https://www.timesofisrael.com/ehud-barak-met-with-jeffrey-epstein-dozens-of-times-flew-on-private-plane-report/

Ehud Barak met with Jeffrey Epstein dozens of times, flew on private plane — report
Former prime minister Ehud Barak met with the late disgraced financier and child sexual abuser Jeffrey Epstein dozens of times beginning in 2013, according to a new report on Wednesday by the Wall Street Journal.

Barak was among the list of Jewish names — including pioneering linguist and left-wing activist Noam Chomsky, longtime Bard College president Leon Botstein, and filmmaker Woody Allen — listed in a newly uncovered private calendar for Epstein, the WSJ reported in the first part of its investigative series on the hugely influential Jewish donor who used his largesse to obscure what investigators uncovered years ago as an elaborate underage sex trafficking ring.

Epstein met with thousands of people over his career and the presence of their names does not itself indicate any evidence of misdeeds.

According to the WSJ’s Wednesday report on the calendar’s contents, Barak visited Epstein about 30 times between 2013 and 2017 at his estates in Florida and New York, including a time in 2014 when the former Israeli premier flew with Epstein on his private aircraft from Palm Beach to Tampa, after which Epstein went on to New York. Barak said his wife and an Israeli security guard were also on that flight. He said he flew with Epstein on his private plans on one other occasion, also with his wife and guards.


Oh. And RFK Jr is on the contact list.

wolfie001

(7,964 posts)
42. Finally! A brave Republican!
Fri Sep 5, 2025, 08:28 AM
Sep 2025

I'm 65, and I'd never seen one. Since Raygun, they've ALL been cowards and spineless weasels (including Raygun). Without exception.

MiHale

(13,162 posts)
44. Statute of Limitations NEVER runs out for the victims...
Fri Sep 5, 2025, 08:54 AM
Sep 2025

It shouldn’t for the perpetrators. Wrong is wrong…not old wrong is okay.

Kid Berwyn

(25,057 posts)
45. Powerful meaning oligarch blackmailers.
Fri Sep 5, 2025, 09:15 AM
Sep 2025

Way past time to make them do what they fear most: Pay.

usedtobedemgurl

(2,068 posts)
48. He did not implicate Paulsen
Fri Sep 5, 2025, 09:33 AM
Sep 2025

At least not in my mind. He never says Paulsen is a pedo. He says Paulsen MAY be implicated or embarrassed to be mentioned in the little black book. That, to me, is not accusing someone of what that person probably did.

sop

(19,280 posts)
55. I suspect a lot of men in corporate mass media board rooms are also in Epstein's Black Book.
Fri Sep 5, 2025, 10:10 AM
Sep 2025

Could be why the story has been so poorly reported.

Ocelot II

(131,203 posts)
59. Follow the money. The men named in Epstein's various lists might or might not have been
Fri Sep 5, 2025, 10:34 AM
Sep 2025

schoolgirl-diddling pedophiles, but they are likely the sources of much of Epstein's money, since he cultivated wealthy people to participate in his investment schemes, some of which involved sex trafficking and money-laundering - and there were Russian connections. What Trump is trying so hard to cover up and protect is the money pot and the financing of the trafficking as well as the sexual abuse - which he taped for blackmail purposes. Either Trump didn't know his name appeared so frequently in the files or that he was tied to Epstein's dodgy financial transactions, or else he thought they'd never actually be released in full, so he promised to release them to satisfy the MAGA horde, which assumed only child raping Democrats' names appeared. When, after Bondi ordered the FBI to look for his name, he found out who and what was really in the files he changed his mind. But now he's in a corner because the harder he fights to prevent their release the guiltier he looks. Most people seem to assume he's trying to conceal his sexual acts, and that's probably part of it, but I think what he's really trying to hide is his involvement in Epstein's international sex trafficking operation. Trump loves nothing more than money; he doesn't care how he gets it, and he'll have wanted a piece of that action. My theory, anyhow, for what it's worth.

IronLionZion

(51,549 posts)
60. John Paulson has been backing Trump since his first 2016 campaign
Fri Sep 5, 2025, 10:40 AM
Sep 2025

He sold the Doral resort to Trump

Expose them all! You are defined by the company you keep. It's no coincidence that TACO Don has always been surrounded by creeps and criminals.

republianmushroom

(22,684 posts)
65. And a Republican at that.
Fri Sep 5, 2025, 12:22 PM
Sep 2025

Beware of the 3-C's. If, all names are released there will be more billionaires named.

Wiz Imp

(10,398 posts)
66. At the Press Conference, the one person explicitly named was Lex Wexner
Fri Sep 5, 2025, 12:27 PM
Sep 2025

Both the lawyers and the victims mentioned him and he is known to have been a source of money to Epstein. Tehy seemed to be be explicitly saying the DOJ needs to investigate Wexner.

Wexner is listed in Epstein's book under 4 different addresses (London, Aspen Colorado, & New Albany & Columbu Ohio). I counted 63 different phone numbers under LES WEXNER listings. There is also a listing under WEXNER - FLIGHT DEPT in Columbus Ohio with 4 more phone numbers. Plus a listing for ABIGAIL WEXNER PLANTATION (she's Les Wexner's wife) in Albany Georgia with 4 more numbers.

Wiz Imp

(10,398 posts)
68. I found this site where you can search for a name
Fri Sep 5, 2025, 12:43 PM
Sep 2025
https://epsteinsblackbook.com/

And you can see the complete list of names (including those who may have been listed under the heading of someone or something else)

https://epsteinsblackbook.com/all-names

Interestingly, this shows 4 names listed as [VIP]

Doug BandsVIP
Office of William J. Clinton
US
3 contacts
page 4


Ehud BarakVIP
Barak & Associates, LLC Chairman
2 contacts
page 69
page 95


Donald TrumpVIP
The Trump Organization
US
2 contacts
page 80


Les WexnerVIP
The Limited Inc.
UK
2 contacts
page 81

mucholderthandirt

(1,791 posts)
73. I don't think any of this is about prosecution, at this point, it's about outing pedophiles...
Fri Sep 5, 2025, 01:31 PM
Sep 2025

Rapists and other criminals who are bankrolling what's happening to this country. It's about making people aware of how these men get away with this stuff, and the women/girls are blamed.

I don't care who's names are in the files. Democrat, Republican, whatever. Put it out in public and let the chips fall where they may. It's time we stopped allowing this shit to ruin people's lives.

EndlessWire

(8,103 posts)
84. I agree.
Fri Sep 5, 2025, 07:04 PM
Sep 2025

It's not about punishment. It's about following the threads and seeing exactly who did what. We need to know how dirty we are, and if other countries are involved. But mostly, it's about the truth, and breaking the back of this insane Trump cult. What do we want? We want Trump gone before he utterly destroys our Democracy. When do we want him gone? Last year.

Let anyone who is in the files defend themselves. Let's try to keep Maxwell in prison. And let's try to find out definitively whether Epstein killed himself or was murdered. And, we could offer ptsd treatment for the victims. But, I don't think we can get even on this one. Let's settle for discrediting the Orange Pedophile, and cracking the ring wide open. Make them answer publicly.

Hekate

(100,133 posts)
78. Major donor of the Speaker of the House? You know I've called him Li'l Pervy all along...
Fri Sep 5, 2025, 04:09 PM
Sep 2025

…because he’s so obsessed with monitoring his own kids’ sex lives.

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