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RandySF

(86,193 posts)
Fri Sep 5, 2025, 05:38 AM Sep 2025

DC-AL: 88-Year-Old House Democrat Says She's Running Again: 'I Am Not Going To Step Aside'

Eighty-eight-year-old Democrat Eleanor Holmes Norton announced on Thursday that she would be seeking re-election in 2026 as a delegate to Congress from Washington, D.C. ,despite her advanced age.

Asked by Axios whether she would be seeking re-election despite growing concerns about her age, Norton – the oldest person in Congress – said, “Of course.”

“I say that my seniority is what is very important, and I am not going to step aside,” the non-voting member declared.

Eighty-year-old Rep. David Scott (D-GA) and 77-year-old Rep. John Larson (D-CT) also told Axios they were planning to run for re-election, despite concerns over their health.



https://www.mediaite.com/politics/88-year-old-house-democrat-says-shes-running-again-i-am-not-going-to-step-aside/

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DC-AL: 88-Year-Old House Democrat Says She's Running Again: 'I Am Not Going To Step Aside' (Original Post) RandySF Sep 2025 OP
What is this mania for never leaving office? enough Sep 2025 #1
It's a problem for us aging folks. We do not see objectively how we are losing ability every day. I have to be ... marble falls Sep 2025 #5
I get that there is the lure of power, and the job's effort is a little fungible EdmondDantes_ Sep 2025 #9
My wife snickers everytime I look for a job. Ain't no way I can work like that anymore, but being home brings ... marble falls Sep 2025 #39
I would definitely say it's not useless EdmondDantes_ Sep 2025 #42
I honestly don't care about money itself, I only use it to tally my points. marble falls Sep 2025 #45
My Hobbies Remind Me ProfessorGAC Sep 2025 #30
My big one was when I realized what I would estimate for a job was no longer accurate. By a mile. That after ... marble falls Sep 2025 #34
Arrogance Blue Full Moon Sep 2025 #43
some people cannot give up power Skittles Sep 2025 #62
Gawd forbid Dems allow in any young superstars Arazi Sep 2025 #2
The party apparatus has not always been the old guard Bluetus Sep 2025 #54
Great points. The Democratic Party is at historically low approval levels Arazi Sep 2025 #65
That's just ridiculous. Hope they're primaried. Scrivener7 Sep 2025 #3
Absolutely, they need to be primaried. and it's nothing personal. marble falls Sep 2025 #4
No. Nothing personal. And a lesson we seem to need to learn over and over and over. Scrivener7 Sep 2025 #6
Maxine Waters is only a year younger. Congresswoman Norton is also black. LeftInTX Sep 2025 #7
Norton isn't from a red state EdmondDantes_ Sep 2025 #10
So we're bashing a non-voting rep just because LeftInTX Sep 2025 #11
There's old and there's OLD. maxsolomon Sep 2025 #13
It is not based simply on her age. It is more like a Feinstein situation. Celerity Sep 2025 #16
She's not a voting member! LeftInTX Sep 2025 #28
I never said she was a full voting member, but she can introduce/sponsor legislation and before the Rethugs took it away Celerity Sep 2025 #35
Gosh, thanks for giving us your opinion about primaries. Scrivener7 Sep 2025 #18
She"s not even a voting member. LeftInTX Sep 2025 #23
This message was self-deleted by its author PeaceWave Sep 2025 #24
For those who ask why replace her? awesomerwb1 Sep 2025 #48
Correct. RandySF Sep 2025 #31
Oh ffs, this isn't racist. It's about getting younger Dems inside the legislature Arazi Sep 2025 #20
YES.... democratsruletheday Sep 2025 #8
Asking that an 88 year old make room for a younger representative is certainly not bashing. Or ageism. Or anything Nanjeanne Sep 2025 #12
She is a NON-VOTING member. maxsolomon Sep 2025 #14
11 members of Congress over 80 spun into an evil centrist establishment crypt keeper majority status quo betsuni Sep 2025 #15
This message was self-deleted by its author PeaceWave Sep 2025 #17
Said no one here ever. But thanks for the amusing straw man. Scrivener7 Sep 2025 #19
This message was self-deleted by its author PeaceWave Sep 2025 #21
Neither David Hogg's Leaders We Deserve nor Bernie Sander's Run For Something Quiet Em Sep 2025 #22
Ageism isn't becoming at all. n/t valleyrogue Sep 2025 #32
Schumer wants 79 yr old Janet Mills to be the ME Senate candidate Arazi Sep 2025 #25
This message was self-deleted by its author PeaceWave Sep 2025 #26
We NEED to raise up the next generation Arazi Sep 2025 #38
You don't think younger people have Bettie Sep 2025 #66
This thing about never leaving office is not honorable. It's selfish and counterproductive. themaguffin Sep 2025 #27
This message was self-deleted by its author PeaceWave Sep 2025 #29
I didn't say anything about experienced members. I am referring specifically to situations like this. themaguffin Sep 2025 #33
This message was self-deleted by its author PeaceWave Sep 2025 #37
Seriously? Really? Just say that you think that it's fine that 80 somethings are in office, but act like it's themaguffin Sep 2025 #40
This message was self-deleted by its author PeaceWave Sep 2025 #41
Concern is legitimate. We've seen issues. We know. My parents are in their 80s. I see the limitations. Come on. themaguffin Sep 2025 #44
lol, anyone even whispering that an incumbent Dem get primaried gets crucified here Arazi Sep 2025 #46
* unless they are a Squad member. nt RandiFan1290 Sep 2025 #50
She's non-voting, so it doesn't matter much Renew Deal Sep 2025 #36
For some it's all about the ego. Autumn Sep 2025 #47
As a House member from the District of Columbia, she cannot vote on House measures. MineralMan Sep 2025 #49
Didn't an elderly (83 year old) senator with a history of heart problems just file to run again in 2030? lapucelle Sep 2025 #51
He's 84 in two days. Time to pass the torch to someone younger. Nixie Sep 2025 #57
Age is only bad if it's establishment, silly. betsuni Sep 2025 #58
I couldn't wait to retire. I don't understand the desire to keep working. IcyPeas Sep 2025 #52
EHN Has Done A Good Job Deep State Witch Sep 2025 #53
Bernie Sanders is 84. This is all just an excuse. Nixie Sep 2025 #55
Another way to accuse Democrats of corruption, evil conspiracy plots, stopping at nothing to thwart progress . betsuni Sep 2025 #59
Yes, it's all so scripted. No reality is necessary. Just say Nixie Sep 2025 #60
Time to pass the torch down to someone younger. Emile Sep 2025 #56
It is the younger people who are inheriting this mess. IMHO, they should be in the cornball 24 Sep 2025 #61
She is washed up and needs to retire Justice Brandeis Sep 2025 #63
Again, article says 11 Democrats in Congress over 80. Bashing Rule: 1 to a dozen Democrats means the whole party. betsuni Sep 2025 #64

marble falls

(72,531 posts)
5. It's a problem for us aging folks. We do not see objectively how we are losing ability every day. I have to be ...
Fri Sep 5, 2025, 09:25 AM
Sep 2025

... slapped by reality almost daily.

EdmondDantes_

(2,063 posts)
9. I get that there is the lure of power, and the job's effort is a little fungible
Fri Sep 5, 2025, 10:46 AM
Sep 2025

Yes being a member of Congress is work, but I imagine there's a lot of variance in terms of what the staff does and what the member does. It's certainly not doing physical labor and some people enjoy meetings (those people are objectively wrong of course 😄 .

But don't they want to enjoy a retirement with friends and family? My parents are tired of working and actively planning their upcoming retirement.

marble falls

(72,531 posts)
39. My wife snickers everytime I look for a job. Ain't no way I can work like that anymore, but being home brings ...
Fri Sep 5, 2025, 01:18 PM
Sep 2025

... home how useless I am while I know I've got some good mileage left in spite of serious health set backs. I am planning to do volunteer for a meals on wheels kitchen when this latest health setback is righted. I can hear my wife's eyeballs rolling right now.

We worked hard and can't believe we're crossing the cusp of extremely useful to fairly useless. I can see where this is so tough for progressive legislators, as opposed to crooked RWs who have go to the grave keeping all the balls in the air.

EdmondDantes_

(2,063 posts)
42. I would definitely say it's not useless
Fri Sep 5, 2025, 01:40 PM
Sep 2025

My grandfather ran his local meals on wheels after retiring. My stepdad is already driving blood for the Red Cross. I see lots of retirees volunteering at the food donation place I volunteer for. My aunt volunteers as case worker or advocate for kids in the CPS system.

I look at it as getting to relax after working hard for a lot of years and chipping in some where you can. Taking a step back doesn't mean useless, but for many people there is an association of monetary value or work equalling value. It can be a really rough transition.

ProfessorGAC

(77,271 posts)
30. My Hobbies Remind Me
Fri Sep 5, 2025, 12:54 PM
Sep 2025

I can't hit the ball as far in golf.
My hands don't move as fast or as accurately on piano or guitar.
When I sub, my feet bother me & my legs are tired, and all I did was walk slowly around the room.
Every day I have clear indicators that I'm not physically what I used to be.

marble falls

(72,531 posts)
34. My big one was when I realized what I would estimate for a job was no longer accurate. By a mile. That after ...
Fri Sep 5, 2025, 01:10 PM
Sep 2025

... doing a show, it took more than a week to recuperate. How easy it was to skip a step and move blithely on.

Arazi

(8,887 posts)
2. Gawd forbid Dems allow in any young superstars
Fri Sep 5, 2025, 08:03 AM
Sep 2025

Nadler stands in stark relief stepping aside BEFORE HE’S 80!

Ffs

Bluetus

(3,076 posts)
54. The party apparatus has not always been the old guard
Sat Sep 6, 2025, 03:50 PM
Sep 2025

Bill Clinton took office at age 46. His campaign manager, Carville, was 47.

LBJ took office at 55.

JFK took office at 43.

Obama was 47.

The past 15 years, Democrats have become frozen in time. And when they do bring on somebody younger like Jeffries, he is 100% the choice and servant of the moribund DNC that hasn't had any bold leadership for at least 40 years.

It isn't entirely about age. It is also about energy, passion, and relevance. But people like Schumer fail on all three: energy, passion, and relevance. How could we possibly lose the younger voters to the monster in the White House today? By allowing the party to promote the least energetic, passionate and relevant. Simple as that.

Davis Hogg has it right. Mamdani has it right Plattner has it right. AOC has it right. Crockett has it right. And Newsome seems to be finding his way out of the DNC wilderness.

Arazi

(8,887 posts)
65. Great points. The Democratic Party is at historically low approval levels
Sat Sep 6, 2025, 07:45 PM
Sep 2025

Their reluctance to “read the room” is maddening

LeftInTX

(34,852 posts)
7. Maxine Waters is only a year younger. Congresswoman Norton is also black.
Fri Sep 5, 2025, 09:41 AM
Sep 2025

This call to get rid of all old people in congress is getting ridiculous. Maybe because she's from a red state?

EdmondDantes_

(2,063 posts)
10. Norton isn't from a red state
Fri Sep 5, 2025, 10:48 AM
Sep 2025

She's the non-voting representative from DC. I think the AL is for at large?

LeftInTX

(34,852 posts)
11. So we're bashing a non-voting rep just because
Fri Sep 5, 2025, 11:18 AM
Sep 2025

She's old. Got it@

Gosh, the pitchforks are out! Just say "old" and everyone piles on, even though she's a non-voting member.

Celerity

(54,866 posts)
16. It is not based simply on her age. It is more like a Feinstein situation.
Fri Sep 5, 2025, 11:54 AM
Sep 2025
D.C.'s Stalwart in Congress Clings to Her Seat Amid Signs of Decline

Colleagues and friends say Representative Eleanor Holmes Norton, the District of Columbia’s 87-year-old (now 88) nonvoting delegate and a veteran of fights over home rule, is struggling to do her job.

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/06/11/us/politics/eleanor-norton-age-congress-dc.html

https://archive.ph/jzBz1

June 11, 2025

When Representative Eleanor Holmes Norton, the Democrat and nonvoting delegate for Washington, D.C., attended a recent gala to accept an award honoring her decades-long career in Congress, she appeared to be struggling to read her brief remarks. Standing onstage at Arena Stage in April, Ms. Norton referred to the “National Environment for the Arts,” lauded the D.C. theater for contributions to “freedom of suppression and democracy” and half-said, half-spelled the name of a former board chair, Beth Newburger Schwartz, as “Ethel N-E-W Burger Schwartz.” A pall fell over the audience as Ms. Norton stumbled through her speech, according to an attendee.

The scene, which was reported earlier by Washingtonian magazine, was all the more jarring because it followed a video montage celebrating Ms. Norton’s many achievements through her three decades in public office, the attendee said. It served as a vivid reminder of what colleagues and friends said has been a notable decline for Ms. Norton — the civil rights leader and law professor turned congresswoman known as D.C.’s “warrior on the Hill” — that has quieted her voice, leaving her vastly diminished and struggling to fulfill her congressional duties.

More than half a dozen of them spoke on the condition of anonymity to avoid publicly disparaging her, though some for years have privately pressed Ms. Norton to reckon with her diminution and decide against seeking re-election. That message doesn’t appear to have sunk in. “I’m going to run,” she told reporters at the Capitol on Tuesday, after being questioned about a recent Washington Post report in which D.C. council members raised questions about her ability to do the job and said it was time for her to retire. “I don’t know why anybody would even ask me.”

The reasons are obvious to those who have watched her closely on Capitol Hill. Ms. Norton, who will turn 88 this week, is the oldest member of the House and has become frail. In hearings, she often sits quiet and alone, sometimes relying on staff aides to remind her where she is. (Ms. Norton’s office strongly disputed that aides had ever had to do that.) She rarely attends meetings of the Oversight Committee ahead of votes, as members are encouraged to do, instead joining remotely by phone. She sometimes does not seem to recognize people she has known for years.

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Celerity

(54,866 posts)
35. I never said she was a full voting member, but she can introduce/sponsor legislation and before the Rethugs took it away
Fri Sep 5, 2025, 01:10 PM
Sep 2025

each time they took the House back, she (as the DC delegate at-large) could vote on amendments, procedural issues, and non-binding resolutions. She also has franking privileges, floor privileges and can participate in certain other House functions. Non-voting members may, as I stated above, also introduce legislation and may vote in a House committee of which they are a member.

Republican-led Congress denies D.C. delegate a vote. Again.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/virginia-politics/republican-congress-denies-dc-representative-a-vote-again/2017/01/03/a8e32760-d1c8-11e6-945a-76f69a399dd5_story.html

https://archive.ph/Gsem5

On the first day of the 115th Congress, members buzzed Tuesday about the repeal of President Obama's health-care law, tax reform and whether to gut the ethics office. All Eleanor Holmes Norton wanted to discuss was a vote. And a symbolic one at that. For the fourth consecutive session, Norton (D), the non­voting D.C. representative, formally asked the speaker of the House for the ability to vote on amendments and procedural issues. Again, she was thwarted.

This time, she brought D.C. Mayor Muriel E. Bowser (D) and a veterans advocate with her. Norton pushed for a vote in the Committee of the Whole as “a down payment on full voting rights for the more than 680,000 American citizens residing in the District of Columbia, who pay the highest federal income taxes per capita in the United States and have fought and died in every American war, yet have no vote on the floor of the House of Representatives, ‘the people’s house,’ ” she said.

When Democrats have controlled the House, Norton, the other non­voting delegates — from American Samoa, Guam, the Northern Mariana Islands and the Virgin Islands — and Puerto Rico’s resident commissioner were given the courtesy. In Norton’s quarter-century of service, that has happened in congressional sessions starting in 1993, 2007 and 2009. The privilege was revoked each time Republicans took back control of the House.

For Norton, the ability to cast a vote as part of the Committee of the Whole is largely symbolic — it would allow her to vote on amendments on the House floor but not on final legislation. And, in the past, if a vote by a delegate would determine the outcome of a particular measure, the House voted again — without them.

snip

Scrivener7

(60,067 posts)
18. Gosh, thanks for giving us your opinion about primaries.
Fri Sep 5, 2025, 12:08 PM
Sep 2025

No matter what, we mustn't consider change. We mustn't suggest we can do better. Because everything is going just fine.


LeftInTX

(34,852 posts)
23. She"s not even a voting member.
Fri Sep 5, 2025, 12:33 PM
Sep 2025

She represents DC. If her constituents feel she is doing a good job, then why not?

Response to Scrivener7 (Reply #18)

awesomerwb1

(5,151 posts)
48. For those who ask why replace her?
Fri Sep 5, 2025, 02:47 PM
Sep 2025

We have lost a couple or 3 seats recently due to illness/death. That's why.

She's 88, going to be 89 next year. Enough. Get some new blood in. It's unbelievable to me we're even arguing over this.

Arazi

(8,887 posts)
20. Oh ffs, this isn't racist. It's about getting younger Dems inside the legislature
Fri Sep 5, 2025, 12:11 PM
Sep 2025

And getting experience.

DiFi needed to go 10 years before she died in office. Adam Schiff has been BADASS in her place and Laura Friedman who took his seat is 58 yrs old. That’s generational change that has nothing to do with race.

Steny Hoyer, Chuck Schumer, Bill Pascrell, and yes even Maxine Waters and Bernie need to step aside and mentor younger Dems.

democratsruletheday

(1,921 posts)
8. YES....
Fri Sep 5, 2025, 10:40 AM
Sep 2025

couldn't agree more. Primary their old azzes. I"m 60 and would have reservations about running for office. 70's and 80's? GTFO here with that BS. Selfish and greedy at the bare minimum

Nanjeanne

(6,640 posts)
12. Asking that an 88 year old make room for a younger representative is certainly not bashing. Or ageism. Or anything
Fri Sep 5, 2025, 11:24 AM
Sep 2025

more than a wish that Democrats with age and experience would mentor young people, encourage young people, and step aside for young people who have a very large stake in the future of this country.

betsuni

(29,292 posts)
15. 11 members of Congress over 80 spun into an evil centrist establishment crypt keeper majority status quo
Fri Sep 5, 2025, 11:51 AM
Sep 2025

plotting and scheming to hold back the brave and noble Youth who apparently spinelessly cave without fighting or standing up to meet the moment (come on, the old guard can't move very fast, forgets everything, can only eat soft foods -- how hard can it be?).

Response to RandySF (Original post)

Response to Scrivener7 (Reply #19)

Quiet Em

(3,014 posts)
22. Neither David Hogg's Leaders We Deserve nor Bernie Sander's Run For Something
Fri Sep 5, 2025, 12:19 PM
Sep 2025

have recruited anyone to run for her seat. I don't see the point of writing an article complaining about her age without offering an alternative.



Arazi

(8,887 posts)
25. Schumer wants 79 yr old Janet Mills to be the ME Senate candidate
Fri Sep 5, 2025, 12:44 PM
Sep 2025

She’d start being a senator for a 6 year term at almost 80 years old! Iirc, she never polled higher than 2-3 points in popularity over GOP candidates as Governor. Schumer banking on name recognition instead of what the voters want - fighters.

This is nuts!

We need to start getting younger Dems in office

Response to Arazi (Reply #25)

Arazi

(8,887 posts)
38. We NEED to raise up the next generation
Fri Sep 5, 2025, 01:17 PM
Sep 2025

That’s not ageism, it’s reality. You seem to be saying younger Dems shouldn’t be empowered. Ever. We should always defer to the senior elders

We desperately need our next leaders inside to gain experience but they can’t do that if old folks refuse to allow that.

It’s madness to persist on this track. Dems don’t have a million liberal think tanks or conservative conferences or media outlets to groom future legislators like the GOP does.

Bettie

(19,872 posts)
66. You don't think younger people have
Sat Sep 6, 2025, 07:58 PM
Sep 2025

The ability to be in congress?

Would you prefer a minimum age of 70 for new congresspersons? That would show those 30 an 40 year old whippersnappers what’s what!

Why should young people not have a voice?

themaguffin

(5,415 posts)
27. This thing about never leaving office is not honorable. It's selfish and counterproductive.
Fri Sep 5, 2025, 12:50 PM
Sep 2025

Response to themaguffin (Reply #27)

themaguffin

(5,415 posts)
33. I didn't say anything about experienced members. I am referring specifically to situations like this.
Fri Sep 5, 2025, 12:58 PM
Sep 2025

two very different things.

Response to themaguffin (Reply #33)

themaguffin

(5,415 posts)
40. Seriously? Really? Just say that you think that it's fine that 80 somethings are in office, but act like it's
Fri Sep 5, 2025, 01:27 PM
Sep 2025

not concerning - not to mention for most areas of work, people retire at a younger age and it's important to let go and hand it off.

There are plenty of experienced politicians in their 40, 50, 60s. etc.

Come on.

Response to themaguffin (Reply #40)

themaguffin

(5,415 posts)
44. Concern is legitimate. We've seen issues. We know. My parents are in their 80s. I see the limitations. Come on.
Fri Sep 5, 2025, 01:44 PM
Sep 2025
If someone younger wants the job, there is nothing preventing them from attempting to take it away - at the ballot box.


Of course, but that's not what I was referring to. This is gross, but you do you.

Arazi

(8,887 posts)
46. lol, anyone even whispering that an incumbent Dem get primaried gets crucified here
Fri Sep 5, 2025, 02:42 PM
Sep 2025

And out in RL.

It’s been a steady hum, a growing undercurrent of discontent ever since it was first suggested, even for safe blue Districts, that always gets swatted down with feigned shock.

How dare anyone suggest such a thing?11!!1?

*** cough David Hogg***

As for specifics on this person, see post #16. She’s DiFi all over again…

MineralMan

(151,540 posts)
49. As a House member from the District of Columbia, she cannot vote on House measures.
Fri Sep 5, 2025, 02:52 PM
Sep 2025

So, unless she's a very effective speaker, what she does really makes no difference, really.

I'm not bothered.

lapucelle

(21,129 posts)
51. Didn't an elderly (83 year old) senator with a history of heart problems just file to run again in 2030?
Sat Sep 6, 2025, 03:11 PM
Sep 2025

Deep State Witch

(12,755 posts)
53. EHN Has Done A Good Job
Sat Sep 6, 2025, 03:36 PM
Sep 2025

But it's time to step aside. I think that Muriel Bowser would be great in that role.

Nixie

(18,105 posts)
55. Bernie Sanders is 84. This is all just an excuse.
Sat Sep 6, 2025, 03:52 PM
Sep 2025

So transparent. If you don’t say the magic words, you’re too old.

betsuni

(29,292 posts)
59. Another way to accuse Democrats of corruption, evil conspiracy plots, stopping at nothing to thwart progress .
Sat Sep 6, 2025, 04:28 PM
Sep 2025

and The Will of the People.

Nixie

(18,105 posts)
60. Yes, it's all so scripted. No reality is necessary. Just say
Sat Sep 6, 2025, 04:49 PM
Sep 2025

all the money is evil except theirs. No other info is needed.

In the meantime, the billionaires are running the country, so it looks like voters didn’t buy their script. Again.

cornball 24

(1,584 posts)
61. It is the younger people who are inheriting this mess. IMHO, they should be in the
Sat Sep 6, 2025, 05:14 PM
Sep 2025

spotlight as they are the ones to be the decision makers and problem solvers. In order to accomplish positive goals, they need on the job experience. As long as these old coots keep hanging on, they won't have that opportunity. BTW, I'm 83

betsuni

(29,292 posts)
64. Again, article says 11 Democrats in Congress over 80. Bashing Rule: 1 to a dozen Democrats means the whole party.
Sat Sep 6, 2025, 06:53 PM
Sep 2025

Whereas the real enemy, Republicans, vote 100% together to destroy America. Oh, totally, like, both sides same.

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