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Brenda

(2,054 posts)
Fri Sep 5, 2025, 04:18 PM Sep 2025

So. fucking. sick. of military jet flyovers before the college game day

Scared the bejeezus out of my cat. They're right over my house.

Where the hell is MUSK AND DOGE????

How is this not government waste to spend millions of dollars for jets to burn tons of jet fuel to fly over every college town for a coupla days? The most bloated government department needs MORE money for pilots to practice?

It is bullshit now and it was bullshit under any Dem leadership.


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Brenda

(2,054 posts)
3. Well, I don't WORSHIP any kind of sports but...
Fri Sep 5, 2025, 04:30 PM
Sep 2025

I am an NFL fan, not college.

But that's all beside the point I was trying to make. (And yeah, I know the NFL is equally guilty of this.)

Government efficiency seems to be military displays for the masses are AOK no matter the cost, YET...

Feeding the hungry, housing the poor, giving medical attention to those who cannot afford insurance is somehow,

SOME. FUCKING. HOW.

AN INEFFICIENT USE OF OUR/THEIR TAX DOLLARS.


Response to Brenda (Reply #3)

haele

(15,396 posts)
2. Jet flyovers at games give local reservist/NG pilots flight hours.
Fri Sep 5, 2025, 04:28 PM
Sep 2025

As well as being a recruiting/PR rah-rah thing.
That being said, they are annoying, especially if you live near the stadium that isn't under an airport flight path.

Brenda

(2,054 posts)
6. Are we at war?
Fri Sep 5, 2025, 04:47 PM
Sep 2025

Why do they need flight hours in such a way? It's not really practice for a combat situation if you're flying over a cheering crowd for the home team. It's always been Pentagon Pro War Propaganda.

The Cost is what I have a problem with right now.


haele

(15,396 posts)
18. They're not able to fly if they don't put in a certain number of hours annually...
Fri Sep 5, 2025, 05:50 PM
Sep 2025

Doesn't matter if we're at war or not. Those planes are going to fly, either over desert or countryside, or over football stadiumd.
And I did commiserate with you about having to put up with the DoD PR campaign that is the College Football Flyover.
They started that for Gulf War II, because the NCAA liked the recruiter Ad money.

Sigh

Here's the reason for those planes flying. You don't want pilots flying planes who only jump in a cockpit three or four hours twice a year, like it's a video game. That kills people, people in the air, and people on the ground.
Got a problem with the Military in general, that's valid. Got a problem with Military Recruiting at Football Games, that's really valid.
Flying to keep reservist pilots practiced and trained is also valid. Though I am sorry for pets, kids, and those with personal trauma that are affected.

Irish_Dem

(81,259 posts)
5. In all fairness, military pilots have to get in so many flights hours a month.
Fri Sep 5, 2025, 04:34 PM
Sep 2025

To keep their flight status and get their flight pay.

But I hear you. I am sick and tired of USAF used for commercial and political purposes.

Brenda

(2,054 posts)
8. I am not against military pilots.
Fri Sep 5, 2025, 04:55 PM
Sep 2025

But this shit is clearly for commercial and political purposes!

I've seen your posts Irish_Dem and know you grew up in an AF family. I did too. Grew up hearing B-52's at WPAFB. My Dad was one of the engineers who built those aircraft.

I don't hate the military. I hate the fucking waste, fraud and abuse in the military!

Irish_Dem

(81,259 posts)
11. How neat. That is great!
Fri Sep 5, 2025, 05:09 PM
Sep 2025

Nothing like living right next to the flight line.
And being able to identify military aircraft

Those B52s were quite an airplane.
That is so neat your Dad built them.

We were always so in awe of the people who built the airplanes and kept them flying.

People don't realize that USAF flight crews have thousand of people working behind the scenes
to keep those planes in the air.

Brenda

(2,054 posts)
12. Wait, no, sorry I was afraid that would come across wrong
Fri Sep 5, 2025, 05:16 PM
Sep 2025

My Dad was too young to actually design the B52. He worked in composites building the Jets we see today.

He worked at WPAFB where the B52s were keeping me awake during the 1960s and beyond.



Irish_Dem

(81,259 posts)
14. That's even more amazing.
Fri Sep 5, 2025, 05:21 PM
Sep 2025

The new jets are so complex and cost millions and millions of dollars.
It is amazing how they work on these planes.

A friend of mine was an industrial psychologist/engineer and he
only worked on the instrument panels on a certain type of USAF jet.
To make sure it was user friendly for USAF pilots and crew.

Brenda

(2,054 posts)
17. Wait, what?
Fri Sep 5, 2025, 05:39 PM
Sep 2025

My Dad worked at WPAFB from late 1950's to 1980's.

He worked as a civil engineer, former AF btw. The job required him to travel to California and other states to do business with Grumman and other contractors often.

Made him a pretty absentee father.

Irish_Dem

(81,259 posts)
19. This engineer I am talking about worked at WPAFB too.
Fri Sep 5, 2025, 05:56 PM
Sep 2025

But after the 1980s.

Yes if you are a civilian with the USAF you are going to travel a great deal.
Just like active duty.

generalbetrayus

(1,858 posts)
7. I always keep my fingers crossed when I see a military jet overflight of a stadium (especially one I am in!)
Fri Sep 5, 2025, 04:49 PM
Sep 2025

that a pilot doesn't go bonkers or an aircraft doesn't fall out of the sky over the stadium causing hundreds if not thousands of deaths.

Irish_Dem

(81,259 posts)
9. In the very unlikely event this took place, the co-pilot would do everything possible
Fri Sep 5, 2025, 05:04 PM
Sep 2025

to take the plane down in less populated location.
Even if it meant their own immediate death.

This is their military training.
Never bring a plane down over a populated area.

Greg_In_SF

(1,245 posts)
10. I love flyovers
Fri Sep 5, 2025, 05:08 PM
Sep 2025

Maybe I should move near a stadium. Might even be able to hear some concerts

Jacson6

(2,013 posts)
13. It is not waste.
Fri Sep 5, 2025, 05:19 PM
Sep 2025

The fighter pilots have to put in so many training hours per month, so this counts for that. Sorry about your cat.

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