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ancianita

(43,364 posts)
4. The U.S. has been the historical scaffold upon which other democracies built better structures. They learned from
Fri Sep 5, 2025, 11:16 PM
Sep 2025

our mistakes. They know this. It's time we know this, too.
It's time we realize that we've been the baseline model for other better democracies.

Just because we've been so big for so long that too many have taken democratic freedoms for granted, and not used their freedoms responsibly, doesn't mean the whole U.S. has not been smart.

progressoid

(53,387 posts)
5. I agree but that would also mean re-educating a brainwashed American electorate as well.
Sat Sep 6, 2025, 12:02 AM
Sep 2025

Maybe I'm jaded or maybe it's the 3rd glass of wine, but I don't see that happening in my lifetime.

ancianita

(43,364 posts)
7. It's not the fault of democracy that millions don't learn it and try to preserve it. That's on them.
Sat Sep 6, 2025, 11:15 AM
Sep 2025

And because of that, they and the oligarch class (even beyond U.S. borders) have taken the benefits of democracy for granted, misused it for selfish ends, and now used a selfish leader who would be a tool of those who'd destroy it right out from under them in the name of 'rule of men' power, while they've all dragged millions down a destructive path...

We knew in advance the unintended consequences of right wing voters' gullibility and stupidity. Those voters didn't. They stubbornly won't admit their mistake, and consider their suffering the cost of being on a "winning" side with the 1%.

Democracy doesn't defend itself. It only takes a critical mass of stupid voters -- the consistently stupid voter block of 30%, according to polls -- to cripple democracy's equality & justice for all in the name of being a dominating group of we the people.

The U.S. also still has a critical mass of the smart.
The smart know they know they outnumber the stupid, and act to get out the smart vote.

Youth have too much of their future at stake to allow what's happening to continue. So imo, I'd suggest you fight jaded feelings, since the past is past, and the future isn't written in stone. They're the ones out there fighting, and old folks would do well to fully support them. It will be a big fight to preserve democracy, but as Biden has said repeatedly, there's nothing we can't do if we do it together.




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