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IcyPeas

(25,472 posts)
Sat Sep 6, 2025, 08:36 AM Sep 2025

Anger in Seoul as Trump calls detained South Korea workers 'illegal aliens'

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Foreign Minister Cho Hyun says he is ‘deeply concerned’ over detention of 300 South Koreans, while opposition calls it a ‘grave matter’.

South Korean President Lee Jae-myung has ordered all-out efforts to respond to the arrests of hundreds of the country’s citizens in an immigration raid on a Hyundai Motor-LG car battery factory in the United States.

Thursday’s arrest of some 475 workers – more than 300 of them South Korean nationals – at the plant near Savannah in the southern US state of Georgia was the largest single-site enforcement operation carried out by the Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE), an arm of the US Department of Homeland Security.

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https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2025/9/6/anger-in-seoul-as-trump-calls-detained-south-korea-workers-illegal-aliens
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Anger in Seoul as Trump calls detained South Korea workers 'illegal aliens' (Original Post) IcyPeas Sep 2025 OP
One question in all of this should be - what are they paying the workers. everyonematters Sep 2025 #1
So he's managed to piss off both North AND South Korea's leadership in one week. travelingthrulife Sep 2025 #2
So, the foreign minister is... SickOfTheOnePct Sep 2025 #3
We don't know whether they have been working illegally. travelingthrulife Sep 2025 #5
See my post #4 .... and you should know .... RandomNumbers Sep 2025 #6
Trump is an ass ... but here is some USEFUL information about the raid RandomNumbers Sep 2025 #4
And there we have it! niyad Sep 2025 #7
Just read yesterday that musk will soon be the first trillionaire IcyPeas Sep 2025 #8
Welcome to life under a dictator. Girard442 Sep 2025 #11
Krasnov wants to shut down every green energy project Martin Eden Sep 2025 #22
+1 dalton99a Sep 2025 #24
Tori Branam, running for a Congressional seat in GA, claims she called ICE on the plant haele Sep 2025 #9
This all seems very fishy n/t leftstreet Sep 2025 #12
+1 dalton99a Sep 2025 #28
CLOSE THE FUCKING PLANT orangecrush Sep 2025 #10
why? niyad Sep 2025 #17
Because it's not safe for other countries to run businesses here anymore. orangecrush Sep 2025 #19
Understood, and thank you for explaining. niyad Sep 2025 #20
Most welcome. orangecrush Sep 2025 #21
the devil went down to georgia Tetrachloride Sep 2025 #13
This could prove interesting. Trump is a bull in a China shop. Martin68 Sep 2025 #14
Forget for a minute about the legal/illegal status of South Korean workers.... 70sEraVet Sep 2025 #15
Excellent point ... RandomNumbers Sep 2025 #16
Why does that not even surprise me? niyad Sep 2025 #18
K&R UTUSN Sep 2025 #23
In the face of this raid EndlessWire Sep 2025 #25
Trump breaking up the international democracy alliance for Putin and Xi. Irish_Dem Sep 2025 #26
+1. Putin chose well. dalton99a Sep 2025 #27
The overlooked part of the story here is that Hyundai did not think they could find Prairie Gates Sep 2025 #29
"the wages they wanted were too high" - how high were they? RandomNumbers Sep 2025 #30

travelingthrulife

(5,176 posts)
2. So he's managed to piss off both North AND South Korea's leadership in one week.
Sat Sep 6, 2025, 08:58 AM
Sep 2025

Perhaps this is one of his 5011th 4D chess moves to promote peace in Korea...Nobel for sure!

SickOfTheOnePct

(8,710 posts)
3. So, the foreign minister is...
Sat Sep 6, 2025, 08:59 AM
Sep 2025

..."deeply concerned"...I'm assuming then that South Korea allows foreign nationals to work illegally in South Korea?

travelingthrulife

(5,176 posts)
5. We don't know whether they have been working illegally.
Sat Sep 6, 2025, 09:14 AM
Sep 2025

Seems like a lot of these arrests are people who have their work visas and have been checking in like they were told to do. Big headline over hundreds arrested, no comment on those released without charge later.

RandomNumbers

(19,155 posts)
6. See my post #4 .... and you should know ....
Sat Sep 6, 2025, 09:15 AM
Sep 2025

I am one of the LAST people on this site you will find defending illegal immigration (or, "legal" immigration when it really does undercut American workers ... i.e. much of how H1B is actually applied)

RandomNumbers

(19,155 posts)
4. Trump is an ass ... but here is some USEFUL information about the raid
Sat Sep 6, 2025, 09:13 AM
Sep 2025

Key points:

* to the extent the allegations are true, many detained WERE here "illegally" but not in the way the rabid wrong-wing would normally think of it - more minor violation stuff
* at least a few, according to their lawyers, were NOT in violation of their visas, and are wrongly detained
* few if any worked directly for Hyundai. If a significant % of the allegations turn out to be true, Hyundai DOES need to overhaul the HR department that is responsible for hiring of contractors and subcontractors, and probably outright fire at least one contracting agency.
* ... see highlighted section below ...

https://www.cnn.com/2025/09/06/us/georgia-hyundai-plant-raid-timeline

Georgia immigration attorney Charles Kuck told CNN two of his clients were detained at the raid after having arrived from South Korea under a visa waiver program which allows them to travel for tourism or business for up to 90 days.

One client arrived in the US last week, and the other arrived several weeks ago, he said.

“They were authorized to work in the US under a visa waiver,” Kuck said. “Each was pursuing activities consistent with the visa waiver program.”

The clients, both engineers, came to the US “to advise briefly on the work” and were planning to return to South Korea shortly, according to Kuck.


OH WAIT ... reading further, do we perhaps see the REAL reason behind this raid? (is TSF really on the outs with Muskrat ... still ... or ever? or it was all a smokescreen? or doesn't matter because there are other beneficiaries in the mix?)

In 2022, Hyundai announced an agreement with the state of Georgia to build Hyundai’s “first dedicated fully electrified vehicle and battery manufacturing facilities in the United States” in Bryan County, the company said. The sprawling, 2,900-acre Hyundai Metaplant has two parts: a Hyundai electric vehicle manufacturing site, and an EV battery plant which is a joint venture between Hyundai and LG. The plant was projected to employ up to 8,500 people when complete.

The raid halted construction of the EV battery plant, The Associated Press reported.

Martin Eden

(15,612 posts)
22. Krasnov wants to shut down every green energy project
Sun Sep 7, 2025, 08:28 AM
Sep 2025

He is on a jihad against the HOAX of global warming.

haele

(15,385 posts)
9. Tori Branam, running for a Congressional seat in GA, claims she called ICE on the plant
Sat Sep 6, 2025, 11:07 AM
Sep 2025

She claims on her Facebook she did it for "Humanitarian Reasons", because a friend knows "a Union Guy" who works at the main factory who told that friend that Mexicans and Koreans and their families were being trafficked and living in slavery conditions at the new plant being built.
Yes, she's a good "Christian" blond lady who apparently is now putting up pics of her with an AR-15 to deal with all the haters upset she was trying to save all those "poor immigrants desperate to come to the US illegally looking for a better life..."

Especially engineers and lower level managers from South Korea?


orangecrush

(30,214 posts)
19. Because it's not safe for other countries to run businesses here anymore.
Sat Sep 6, 2025, 03:47 PM
Sep 2025

Let Wall Street get the message.

Tetrachloride

(9,618 posts)
13. the devil went down to georgia
Sat Sep 6, 2025, 11:37 AM
Sep 2025

if they knew ice was coming, where was the mint julep?

no nascar ?

how about a gun raffle?

kimchi makes fewer friends than a bbq

70sEraVet

(5,478 posts)
15. Forget for a minute about the legal/illegal status of South Korean workers....
Sat Sep 6, 2025, 11:52 AM
Sep 2025

In Putin's war against Ukraine, he has become dependent on North Korean soldiers to fill the battlefields. To get those soldiers, he must give the North Korean leader something HE wants -- like a diplomatic disaster that erodes the alliance between South Korea and the US.
Putin gives orders to trump.
ICE is trump's personal army.

RandomNumbers

(19,155 posts)
16. Excellent point ...
Sat Sep 6, 2025, 03:17 PM
Sep 2025

between that and it being an EV battery plant ... OF COURSE it was raided. (whether or not there wer rampant immigration violations ... I'm going with NOT.)

EndlessWire

(8,103 posts)
25. In the face of this raid
Sun Sep 7, 2025, 10:38 AM
Sep 2025

would you build a car plant here to beat the tariffs? Or would you pivot to work with other, more reasonable countries? Rumpy claims that hundreds of car companies are now building plants here. I don't believe him, but regardless of what happened with all the South Koreans, here legally or not, would you chance having hundreds of your Nationals subjected to ICE conditions and deported to gawd knows where?

ETTD in action. I doubt rump even cares about SK's anger, as long as it doesn't get in front of his golf game. Look for our ambassadors getting expelled from SK.

Irish_Dem

(81,202 posts)
26. Trump breaking up the international democracy alliance for Putin and Xi.
Sun Sep 7, 2025, 10:42 AM
Sep 2025

Trump is better than any Russian and Chinese agent on the payroll.

Prairie Gates

(8,121 posts)
29. The overlooked part of the story here is that Hyundai did not think they could find
Sun Sep 7, 2025, 10:57 AM
Sep 2025

adequate employees in rural Georgia, either because the wages they wanted were too high, or they lacked motivation, or they lacked education, or the population was too low and/or nobody who was qualified for these jobs in the US was willing to resettle to this place.

It's actually the biggest element of the story, since Trump's entire economic plan is premised on some mythical revival of the manufacturing sector in places like rural Georgie, and this Hyundai mega-manufacturing zone is presumably one of the biggest successes of the idea (though it is primarily a Georgia initiative that precedes Trump). They will be "incentivized" to hire American workers by force!

It's curiously a point of absolute cohesion in the otherwise incoherent and contradictory MAGA ideology: we will force the revival of manufacturing through tariffs, and then enforce that American workers are hired through immigration action!* Imagine believing that you're a free-market absolutist and these two interlocking policies are the centerpiece of your policy portfolio.

* Notice that this second part doesn't solve the problems of compensation, education, motivation, population, or relocation.

RandomNumbers

(19,155 posts)
30. "the wages they wanted were too high" - how high were they?
Sun Sep 7, 2025, 02:55 PM
Sep 2025

by chance do you have that data?

I'm not totally hostile to your points, but I think you have a tough sell generally, even with many Democrats, when you argue from the perspective that "a company must bring in foreign workers because American workers want too much pay". That is EXACTLY the point of raising the price of foreign goods to help American businesses compete with American labor. (not that I agree with Trump approach on tariffs - this thinking is WAY too simplistic - but simple is how many people need it and you will not win the argument by actually admitting that the goal is to undercut the pay of Americans.)

Your other points might get some more traction, although I somewhat question that candidates lack motivation or education. I give a lot more credit to the idea that the plant was located in a place where it is hard to find enough candidates to be appropriately selective.

Also note that some of the people they detained were here only temporary, to oversee or review some specific part of the job. Your argument is not applicable to them - these are not tasks that would go to on site workers anyway.

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