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AnotherMother4Peace

(5,191 posts)
Sat Sep 6, 2025, 11:43 AM Sep 2025

Krasnov may be planning to suspend elections because of war. The exchange he

had with with Zelensky recently at the White House haunts me.

When asked by a reporter if Ukraine will have elections, Zelensky responds by explaining the precautions for elections during war. Krasnov replies: "...if we happen to be at war with somebody, no more elections." Zelensky responds with a chuckle "you like this idea".

https://www.c-span.org/clip/white-house-event/president-trump-quips-about-canceling-2028-elections-if-us-is-at-war/5170008

He seems to be laying the ground work. Blowing up a Venezuelan boat, declaring cartels terrorists, entertaining his followers with talk of conflict with Mexico. Not to mention changing the Dept of Defense to the Department of War. Sounds like he's planning something evil.

I do believe this might be Krasnov's next move to take down our democracy.

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Krasnov may be planning to suspend elections because of war. The exchange he (Original Post) AnotherMother4Peace Sep 2025 OP
TACO Don wants so DESPERATELY wants to be in the DICKtator Club. ProudMNDemocrat Sep 2025 #1
I could see Krasnov's mitochondrial inflamed brain just churning with ideas AnotherMother4Peace Sep 2025 #5
I noted the same. Alarm bells went off. You literallly could see what he was thinking. Amaryllis Sep 2025 #18
His best buddies, Kim, P-U-tin and Xi, still aren't going to MLWR Sep 2025 #17
We Are America Coolgoober Sep 2025 #2
We are America, & there is evil within, exploiting all vulnerabilities. nt AnotherMother4Peace Sep 2025 #16
He wanted to bomb Mexico the last time around. Hope22 Sep 2025 #3
In Zelensky/Ukraine's situation, I believe it's their Constitution or a statute no_hypocrisy Sep 2025 #4
During this Krasnov/Zelensky exchange, I could see Krasnov thinking how AnotherMother4Peace Sep 2025 #10
Also the War of 1812 and the Mexican War didn't halt elections Wednesdays Sep 2025 #12
Krasnov might see a need to implement "special precautions". nt AnotherMother4Peace Sep 2025 #14
Correct. Ukraine can't hold elections during wartime because it is specified in their Constitution Wiz Imp Sep 2025 #23
Just saw a Rick Steves (travel guru) video where Prairie_Seagull Sep 2025 #6
He doesn't need a real crisis... WestMichRad Sep 2025 #7
If not war, then resurgent pandemic Dave says Sep 2025 #9
Holy shit. The sick fucks delight in this type of operation. It's difficult for normal AnotherMother4Peace Sep 2025 #13
We held elections during the Civil War. nt Rincewind Sep 2025 #8
Zelensky said there could be elections with precautions. Krasnov might declare the same, with his brand of precautions. AnotherMother4Peace Sep 2025 #11
And WWI Jilly_in_VA Sep 2025 #28
It's what should keep us up at night; I know it does for me. ancianita Sep 2025 #15
He has a point. I mean, he is at war with nearly everyone, including Melaaaaaniaaaaaaah. twodogsbarking Sep 2025 #19
He might try, he might succeed, or he might not, since elections are run by the individual states.. Fil1957 Sep 2025 #20
US held elections in War 1812, Civil War, WW1, WW2, Korean War, Vietnam War, Gulf War, Afghanistan War, and Iraq War Bernardo de La Paz Sep 2025 #21
I don't know historical instances. BUT I do know that Krasnov will exploit AnotherMother4Peace Sep 2025 #26
NO, he's not. Most don't grasp how elections work including Donnie. themaguffin Sep 2025 #22
Well I feel so much better now. (Sorry for the sarcasm, but we're talking Krasnov here). nt AnotherMother4Peace Sep 2025 #29
The Midterm Elections and Emergency Powers 2na fisherman Sep 2025 #24
Federal congressional or senate elections can theoretically be delayed, but only by an act of Congress. Wiz Imp Sep 2025 #30
The presidential election cannot be canceled Wiz Imp Sep 2025 #25
Krasnov's mitochondrial inflamed brain is churning to find away, & as long as AnotherMother4Peace Sep 2025 #31
The precedent is Lincoln CanonRay Sep 2025 #27
He can't stop elections 2na fisherman Sep 2025 #32

ProudMNDemocrat

(20,980 posts)
1. TACO Don wants so DESPERATELY wants to be in the DICKtator Club.
Sat Sep 6, 2025, 11:49 AM
Sep 2025


Will the Supreme Court allow Elections to be cancelled all together as guaranteed in the US Constitution? That would mean THEIR right to vote would be taken away.

There were elections even during the American Civil War. THERE is a precedent! But I know the Supreme Court does not follow precedent.

AnotherMother4Peace

(5,191 posts)
5. I could see Krasnov's mitochondrial inflamed brain just churning with ideas
Sat Sep 6, 2025, 11:55 AM
Sep 2025

while he had this exchange with Zelensky. Ideas on how he could suspend elections in the US by
"going to war with somebody".

MLWR

(1,076 posts)
17. His best buddies, Kim, P-U-tin and Xi, still aren't going to
Sat Sep 6, 2025, 01:27 PM
Sep 2025

invite him to play in any of their reindeer games.

Coolgoober

(397 posts)
2. We Are America
Sat Sep 6, 2025, 11:52 AM
Sep 2025

Ukraine isn't having elections because there is a war on their soil. America has had elections during war time. And if there is war on American soil, then trump's the idiot we all know him to be. Tar and feather him and run him out of town.

Hope22

(4,878 posts)
3. He wanted to bomb Mexico the last time around.
Sat Sep 6, 2025, 11:55 AM
Sep 2025

His word vomit is set to recycle. My heart is with those who died and those who will follow.

no_hypocrisy

(55,358 posts)
4. In Zelensky/Ukraine's situation, I believe it's their Constitution or a statute
Sat Sep 6, 2025, 11:55 AM
Sep 2025

that holds off on elections during war.

Last time I looked, the United States held elections 1916-1918, 1941-1945. I'm not including Cuba, Korea, Vietnam, Afghanistan/Iraq as Congress never declared war. There was a bit of confusion during the Civil War as there was a fracture of the country.

AnotherMother4Peace

(5,191 posts)
10. During this Krasnov/Zelensky exchange, I could see Krasnov thinking how
Sat Sep 6, 2025, 12:17 PM
Sep 2025

he could use it to his benefit. I think it's something he might try, and I hope to hell it fails.

Thanks for trying to talk me down.

Wednesdays

(23,108 posts)
12. Also the War of 1812 and the Mexican War didn't halt elections
Sat Sep 6, 2025, 12:40 PM
Sep 2025

Nor did war halt the midterms of 1898 (fighting in the Spanish-American War had stopped by August, but the peace treaty wasn't signed until December).

Wiz Imp

(10,398 posts)
23. Correct. Ukraine can't hold elections during wartime because it is specified in their Constitution
Sat Sep 6, 2025, 02:22 PM
Sep 2025

The United States has no such provision in its Constitution.

Prairie_Seagull

(4,805 posts)
6. Just saw a Rick Steves (travel guru) video where
Sat Sep 6, 2025, 11:56 AM
Sep 2025

Last edited Sat Sep 6, 2025, 02:38 PM - Edit history (1)

He, from Berlin, explains that one other, only wanted to be dictator on his first day.

Adolf Hitler.

WestMichRad

(3,389 posts)
7. He doesn't need a real crisis...
Sat Sep 6, 2025, 12:08 PM
Sep 2025

… to declare a “national emergency”. He’ll just make up something, to the same effect, if the polling numbers suck (in his perspective).

Dave says

(5,468 posts)
9. If not war, then resurgent pandemic
Sat Sep 6, 2025, 12:15 PM
Sep 2025

The latter will necessitate closure of polling and suspension of elections … might be Krasnov’s and Brainworm’s thinking.

AnotherMother4Peace

(5,191 posts)
13. Holy shit. The sick fucks delight in this type of operation. It's difficult for normal
Sat Sep 6, 2025, 12:47 PM
Sep 2025

people to understand or believe how narcissistic psychopaths think and act (and for that matter cults - the people who follow them).

AnotherMother4Peace

(5,191 posts)
11. Zelensky said there could be elections with precautions. Krasnov might declare the same, with his brand of precautions.
Sat Sep 6, 2025, 12:24 PM
Sep 2025

Jilly_in_VA

(14,624 posts)
28. And WWI
Sat Sep 6, 2025, 02:38 PM
Sep 2025

And WWII and Korea and Vietnam. He can get over it. No excuse. We are NOT at war.

If there is a God, please get him out of our misery NOW!

Fil1957

(873 posts)
20. He might try, he might succeed, or he might not, since elections are run by the individual states..
Sat Sep 6, 2025, 02:14 PM
Sep 2025

Bernardo de La Paz

(60,320 posts)
21. US held elections in War 1812, Civil War, WW1, WW2, Korean War, Vietnam War, Gulf War, Afghanistan War, and Iraq War
Sat Sep 6, 2025, 02:16 PM
Sep 2025

USA has had lots of wars and, as far as I know, has never suspended, delayed or cancelled any national election, and probably not any state or local election.

AnotherMother4Peace

(5,191 posts)
26. I don't know historical instances. BUT I do know that Krasnov will exploit
Sat Sep 6, 2025, 02:32 PM
Sep 2025

any and every loophole and vulnerability in the law. Hell, he will break the law without any hesitation. He said the violent insurgents at the Capitol were peaceful protestors. - imagine that. etc, etc, etc.

2na fisherman

(359 posts)
24. The Midterm Elections and Emergency Powers
Sat Sep 6, 2025, 02:24 PM
Sep 2025

Found on Google search..."Standard Operating Procedure (SOP) 303 is a secret, government-approved process for shutting down commercial and private wireless networks during national crises, as determined by the National Coordinating Center (NCC). While the specifics of the "wireless kill switch" plan have been kept from public view, it involves telecommunications companies agreeing to terminate service in affected areas..."

By declaring some fake national emergency, the midterm elections will be compromised not only by deployment of "election integrity" troops but the ensuing protests will be stymied by SOP 303 under the control of Homeland Security. Protestors may not be able to document abuses using cell phone cameras.
In addition to the above, law enforcement agents will be able to target specific geographic areas by using cell phone jamming devices targeting Democratic areas to further disrupt voting in many opposition cities.
It is certain that the Maga forces will do anything they can to mess with these coming elections. They must cheat to prevail in close House and Senate elections and even if they wind up in court, it will be decided too late to matter and the outcome may be a repeat decision of Bush V. Gore.

Wiz Imp

(10,398 posts)
30. Federal congressional or senate elections can theoretically be delayed, but only by an act of Congress.
Sat Sep 6, 2025, 02:42 PM
Sep 2025
https://sgp.fas.org/crs/RL32471.pdf

The Executive Branch does not appear to currently have the authority to establish or postpone the dates of elections at either the federal or state level in the event of an emergency situation. The question arises, however, whether the
Congress could delegate such power as it does have to the Executive Branch. Generally, under separation of power doctrine, Congress may delegate power to the Executive Branch so long as it includes standards so that a court can “ascertain whether the will of Congress has been obeyed.” There is no apparent reason why this doctrine would not extend to the power of Congress to set the time of national elections under either Article I, §4, cl. 1 (House and Senate) or Article II, §1, cl. 4 (Presidential Electors). Thus, as long as the Congress set standards for the Executive Branch to implement such a postponement,19 it would appear that Congress could enact a statute delegating the authority to postpone an election to the Executive Branch.

Wiz Imp

(10,398 posts)
25. The presidential election cannot be canceled
Sat Sep 6, 2025, 02:29 PM
Sep 2025
https://www.brennancenter.org/our-work/research-reports/canceled-election
Fact: The presidential election cannot be canceled — the Constitution requires that presidential elections take place this year.
Note this article is from 2024.

No one, not even the president, can cancel the presidential election. Congress set the current date for presidential elections in 1845 and it has been held on this date every four years — even through the Civil War and two world wars – for over 175 years.

Furthermore, the Constitution requires the president’s term to end on January 20. There are no exceptions that would allow the president to stay in office after that date unless the president is reelected.


AnotherMother4Peace

(5,191 posts)
31. Krasnov's mitochondrial inflamed brain is churning to find away, & as long as
Sat Sep 6, 2025, 02:46 PM
Sep 2025

that is his obsession there is a danger. He will be exploring any and all vulnerabilities. Perhaps "special" precautions? delays? suspensions? new eligibilities? His stupid ass mitochondrial inflamed brain is churning to find away.

2na fisherman

(359 posts)
32. He can't stop elections
Sat Sep 6, 2025, 06:25 PM
Sep 2025

But, Trump and his minions at all levels of government will try to screw with them in various ways that will make it more difficult to vote and/or harder to officially tally in key districts. He wants to rig it so Republicans win bigly to make it seem like he has a mandate to continue on his path to autocracy. He knows if the House and Senate flip to Dem he will be a lame duck and he may finally be held accountable for his actions.

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