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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsKrasnov may be planning to suspend elections because of war. The exchange he
had with with Zelensky recently at the White House haunts me.
When asked by a reporter if Ukraine will have elections, Zelensky responds by explaining the precautions for elections during war. Krasnov replies: "...if we happen to be at war with somebody, no more elections." Zelensky responds with a chuckle "you like this idea".
https://www.c-span.org/clip/white-house-event/president-trump-quips-about-canceling-2028-elections-if-us-is-at-war/5170008
He seems to be laying the ground work. Blowing up a Venezuelan boat, declaring cartels terrorists, entertaining his followers with talk of conflict with Mexico. Not to mention changing the Dept of Defense to the Department of War. Sounds like he's planning something evil.
I do believe this might be Krasnov's next move to take down our democracy.
ProudMNDemocrat
(20,980 posts)Will the Supreme Court allow Elections to be cancelled all together as guaranteed in the US Constitution? That would mean THEIR right to vote would be taken away.
There were elections even during the American Civil War. THERE is a precedent! But I know the Supreme Court does not follow precedent.
AnotherMother4Peace
(5,191 posts)while he had this exchange with Zelensky. Ideas on how he could suspend elections in the US by
"going to war with somebody".
Amaryllis
(11,425 posts)MLWR
(1,076 posts)invite him to play in any of their reindeer games.
Coolgoober
(397 posts)Ukraine isn't having elections because there is a war on their soil. America has had elections during war time. And if there is war on American soil, then trump's the idiot we all know him to be. Tar and feather him and run him out of town.
AnotherMother4Peace
(5,191 posts)Hope22
(4,878 posts)His word vomit is set to recycle. My heart is with those who died and those who will follow.
no_hypocrisy
(55,358 posts)that holds off on elections during war.
Last time I looked, the United States held elections 1916-1918, 1941-1945. I'm not including Cuba, Korea, Vietnam, Afghanistan/Iraq as Congress never declared war. There was a bit of confusion during the Civil War as there was a fracture of the country.
AnotherMother4Peace
(5,191 posts)he could use it to his benefit. I think it's something he might try, and I hope to hell it fails.
Thanks for trying to talk me down.
Wednesdays
(23,108 posts)Nor did war halt the midterms of 1898 (fighting in the Spanish-American War had stopped by August, but the peace treaty wasn't signed until December).
AnotherMother4Peace
(5,191 posts)Wiz Imp
(10,398 posts)The United States has no such provision in its Constitution.
Prairie_Seagull
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He, from Berlin, explains that one other, only wanted to be dictator on his first day.
Adolf Hitler.
WestMichRad
(3,389 posts)to declare a national emergency. Hell just make up something, to the same effect, if the polling numbers suck (in his perspective).
Dave says
(5,468 posts)The latter will necessitate closure of polling and suspension of elections might be Krasnovs and Brainworms thinking.
AnotherMother4Peace
(5,191 posts)people to understand or believe how narcissistic psychopaths think and act (and for that matter cults - the people who follow them).
Rincewind
(1,365 posts)AnotherMother4Peace
(5,191 posts)Jilly_in_VA
(14,624 posts)And WWII and Korea and Vietnam. He can get over it. No excuse. We are NOT at war.
If there is a God, please get him out of our misery NOW!
ancianita
(43,344 posts)twodogsbarking
(19,316 posts)Fil1957
(873 posts)Bernardo de La Paz
(60,320 posts)USA has had lots of wars and, as far as I know, has never suspended, delayed or cancelled any national election, and probably not any state or local election.
AnotherMother4Peace
(5,191 posts)any and every loophole and vulnerability in the law. Hell, he will break the law without any hesitation. He said the violent insurgents at the Capitol were peaceful protestors. - imagine that. etc, etc, etc.
themaguffin
(5,414 posts)AnotherMother4Peace
(5,191 posts)2na fisherman
(359 posts)Found on Google search..."Standard Operating Procedure (SOP) 303 is a secret, government-approved process for shutting down commercial and private wireless networks during national crises, as determined by the National Coordinating Center (NCC). While the specifics of the "wireless kill switch" plan have been kept from public view, it involves telecommunications companies agreeing to terminate service in affected areas..."
By declaring some fake national emergency, the midterm elections will be compromised not only by deployment of "election integrity" troops but the ensuing protests will be stymied by SOP 303 under the control of Homeland Security. Protestors may not be able to document abuses using cell phone cameras.
In addition to the above, law enforcement agents will be able to target specific geographic areas by using cell phone jamming devices targeting Democratic areas to further disrupt voting in many opposition cities.
It is certain that the Maga forces will do anything they can to mess with these coming elections. They must cheat to prevail in close House and Senate elections and even if they wind up in court, it will be decided too late to matter and the outcome may be a repeat decision of Bush V. Gore.
Wiz Imp
(10,398 posts)The Executive Branch does not appear to currently have the authority to establish or postpone the dates of elections at either the federal or state level in the event of an emergency situation. The question arises, however, whether the
Congress could delegate such power as it does have to the Executive Branch. Generally, under separation of power doctrine, Congress may delegate power to the Executive Branch so long as it includes standards so that a court can ascertain whether the will of Congress has been obeyed. There is no apparent reason why this doctrine would not extend to the power of Congress to set the time of national elections under either Article I, §4, cl. 1 (House and Senate) or Article II, §1, cl. 4 (Presidential Electors). Thus, as long as the Congress set standards for the Executive Branch to implement such a postponement,19 it would appear that Congress could enact a statute delegating the authority to postpone an election to the Executive Branch.
Wiz Imp
(10,398 posts)Furthermore, the Constitution requires the presidents term to end on January 20. There are no exceptions that would allow the president to stay in office after that date unless the president is reelected.
AnotherMother4Peace
(5,191 posts)that is his obsession there is a danger. He will be exploring any and all vulnerabilities. Perhaps "special" precautions? delays? suspensions? new eligibilities? His stupid ass mitochondrial inflamed brain is churning to find away.
CanonRay
(16,255 posts)who held elections in the middle of the Civil War
2na fisherman
(359 posts)But, Trump and his minions at all levels of government will try to screw with them in various ways that will make it more difficult to vote and/or harder to officially tally in key districts. He wants to rig it so Republicans win bigly to make it seem like he has a mandate to continue on his path to autocracy. He knows if the House and Senate flip to Dem he will be a lame duck and he may finally be held accountable for his actions.