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Party of small gubmint and freedumb! RockRaven Sep 2025 #1
A decade ago Denton Texas markodochartaigh Sep 2025 #2
Have you checked the air quality reports for Texas lately? littlemissmartypants Sep 2025 #3
It's especially bad along the Chemical Coast markodochartaigh Sep 2025 #4
I'm sorry to hear about your brother. It doesn't take much exposure either. ... littlemissmartypants Sep 2025 #5
Dud Some Work At Chem Sites In Both Places ProfessorGAC Sep 2025 #14
I would not blame this on the GOP. LeftInTX Sep 2025 #6
repubes are all about BIG GOVERNMENT BoRaGard Sep 2025 #7
Big government is about controlling the masses MagickMuffin Sep 2025 #17
You don't vote Democrat, you vote Democratic. BWdem4life Sep 2025 #8
The GOP is now a Big Government Big Brother party owned by a deranged dictator dalton99a Sep 2025 #9
I had a neighbor in Jersey complain bitterly . . . peggysue2 Sep 2025 #10
I love sunflowers, but I love property values more. gulliver Sep 2025 #11
Wow. yardwork Sep 2025 #12
Uh, no. Just no. MineralMan Sep 2025 #16
Sunflowers can remove radioactive waste from the topsoil. PurgedVoter Sep 2025 #13
What an awful Ordinance - it's anti-environment muriel_volestrangler Sep 2025 #15
Here in one of the more affluent Silicon Valley towns Retrograde Sep 2025 #18

RockRaven

(19,755 posts)
1. Party of small gubmint and freedumb!
Sun Sep 7, 2025, 03:06 AM
Sep 2025

markodochartaigh

(5,545 posts)
2. A decade ago Denton Texas
Sun Sep 7, 2025, 03:10 AM
Sep 2025

voted to ban fracking. The state of Texas overruled them and passed a law so that local communities couldn't ban fracking. Republicans are only for local control, or small government, when it benefits them or their friends.


https://www.texastribune.org/2015/05/18/abbott-signs-denton-fracking-bill/

littlemissmartypants

(34,380 posts)
3. Have you checked the air quality reports for Texas lately?
Sun Sep 7, 2025, 03:51 AM
Sep 2025

You cannot go far before you are breathing volatile compounds. Yeeee Haaa!!

markodochartaigh

(5,545 posts)
4. It's especially bad along the Chemical Coast
Sun Sep 7, 2025, 03:58 AM
Sep 2025

from Houston through Louisiana, and has been for decades. My brother-in-law passed in May from cancer that he was sure was caused by exposure when he was a child to chemicals in the bayous of Louisiana.

littlemissmartypants

(34,380 posts)
5. I'm sorry to hear about your brother. It doesn't take much exposure either. ...
Sun Sep 7, 2025, 04:04 AM
Sep 2025

I think about the brain damage and all the children that are helpless. We really don't take care of each other like we should. ❤️

ProfessorGAC

(77,291 posts)
14. Dud Some Work At Chem Sites In Both Places
Sun Sep 7, 2025, 02:41 PM
Sep 2025

In Louisiana, DuPont had a world class monomer plant.
Spotless, ultra-maintained, high morale.
As is there wont, when the patents expired & the capital fully depreciated, they spun it off and it became an independent company.
Within 3 years it was just as much a dump as most of the other petrochem plants in southern Louisiana.
The state EPA didn't care; the feds considered it a state issue.
Now, chlorinated organics are treated as if they were nothing more noxious than bottled water.

LeftInTX

(34,852 posts)
6. I would not blame this on the GOP.
Sun Sep 7, 2025, 04:15 AM
Sep 2025

We have Republicans who have "wild yards" and Democrats with manicured lawns.
I notice the sun flowers are obstructing the view of his home. Noticed they modified the law to 10%.

Our HOA president is a very strong Democrat.

We have someone who allowed his yard to be covered with four o'clocks. I don't know what is party is, but he isn't a Democrat.

I know someone who is always getting in trouble with code compliance and she lives in the bluest part of a blue city. It's also an area of poverty. Yet, she feels that growing all these wild plants is acceptable. The neighbors have complained and says it's a hazard that attracts vermin. She lives in a barrio. The set up just makes the neighborhood look more run down that it is. It's almost as if she's entitled to let things "run wild".

BoRaGard

(7,591 posts)
7. repubes are all about BIG GOVERNMENT
Sun Sep 7, 2025, 04:57 AM
Sep 2025

That's clear - they have been lying about it for decades.

G.O.P. is the party of Big Government

MagickMuffin

(18,362 posts)
17. Big government is about controlling the masses
Sun Sep 7, 2025, 03:38 PM
Sep 2025


Little government is for corporate and no controls.

BWdem4life

(3,091 posts)
8. You don't vote Democrat, you vote Democratic.
Sun Sep 7, 2025, 11:22 AM
Sep 2025

It's a small thing but it irks me and many others when the word is used incorrectly because Repugs use it that way as an insult.

dalton99a

(95,316 posts)
9. The GOP is now a Big Government Big Brother party owned by a deranged dictator
Sun Sep 7, 2025, 11:37 AM
Sep 2025

peggysue2

(12,597 posts)
10. I had a neighbor in Jersey complain bitterly . . .
Sun Sep 7, 2025, 11:44 AM
Sep 2025

Because of THREE sunflowers in my backyard. The flowers came from a school assignment my youngest had--to grow the sunflowers and note the stages of development. They took off like crazy and grew huge healthy leaves and heads.

Pretty. I love the color yellow and my son was thrilled with the success. He was seven or eight at the time.

My neighbor hated them. She lived about eight houses away and said they were causing her family allergy fits. Meanwhile her teenage son babysitted for us and showed no signs of distress. She just hate, hated them and was infuriated when I didn't chop them down.

Can't please everyone.

Now a whole lawn filled with sunflowers? Depends on how the homeowner care-takes his crop. All I know is that fields of sunflowers are beautiful and inspiring to my eye.

gulliver

(14,075 posts)
11. I love sunflowers, but I love property values more.
Sun Sep 7, 2025, 01:06 PM
Sep 2025

A lot more.

People have a right to free expression, but there have to be limits and standards. I don't know if this guy is in the middle of a standard suburban neighborhood or has a place down by the creek that no one can really see. But suppose it's the former.

Imagine you're a working class family. You and your wife finally saved enough to own a home in a nice neighborhood. You're mowing your lawn. Your kids are going to the local school. You have some nice plantings, and a patio in the back yard. You're finally where you wanted to be.

Then, some narcissistic numbskull next door decides he wants to plant half his yard in sunflowers. Because he "really digs sunflowers." Who could possibly want to interfere with such a sweet, freedom-expressing idea. Why, goodness! He's planting the flowers to make the neighbors who like them smile! And the neighbors that don't like them can, to put it sweetly and with empathy, go to hell. Such a "nice guy!!"

Another house near sunflower guy has been listed for a few months. The realtor shows the house, but sunflower guy is always outside tending his sunflowers and flashing a peace sign at the prospective buyers. They move on to the next house in another neighborhood.

You check Zillow, and, a year after buying your own house, its value has gone significantly down. But at least you can look at sunflowers in season. And get a peace sign flashed at you.

Moral of the story. It's nice to conform tastefully to the style of your neighborhood and not nice not to. Your neighbors have a lot invested in their properties. It's their home and their future equity. It's uncool to think you can just express your free spirit at their expense. Whether it's sunflowers or "Trump rules" signs, it's uncool.

yardwork

(69,648 posts)
12. Wow.
Sun Sep 7, 2025, 01:12 PM
Sep 2025

Is this for real?

Edited to add: flashing a peace sign destroys property values?

Wow.

MineralMan

(151,563 posts)
16. Uh, no. Just no.
Sun Sep 7, 2025, 03:15 PM
Sep 2025

What you claim about property values is ridiculous. No way some sunflowers in the yard make neighboring properties worth less. If I lived there, I'd plant a nice row of Mongolian Giant sunflowers at my home. They can grow up to 16 feet tall, and have a flower that can be as large as 16" in diameter. I'd make very sure not to use more property area than allowed, but I'd grow the biggest damn sunflowers that town has ever seen. I'd fertilize the heck out of them and go for maximum height and leaf density and then go for the largest possible flower on each plant. Yes, i would.

PurgedVoter

(2,721 posts)
13. Sunflowers can remove radioactive waste from the topsoil.
Sun Sep 7, 2025, 02:35 PM
Sep 2025

The poisons are left in the stalk and leaves. So by growing sunflowers, and disposing of the spent stalks, you can improve the health of the area.

https://gardencollage.com/change/sustainability/scientists-using-sunflowers-clean-nuclear-radiation/

muriel_volestrangler

(106,600 posts)
15. What an awful Ordinance - it's anti-environment
Sun Sep 7, 2025, 03:12 PM
Sep 2025

That's demanding a lack of biodiversity. It's also authoritarian. And uncultured. It needs to be removed.

Retrograde

(11,450 posts)
18. Here in one of the more affluent Silicon Valley towns
Sun Sep 7, 2025, 04:02 PM
Sep 2025

front yard vegetable gardens are common (former governor Jerry Brown got a law passed that protected them): I know of one house that has a biggish corn crop growing between the sidewalk and the street. Many others have let the grass die in the dry months, or have gone for native plants or other low-water crops.

What's wrong with sunflowers? They're native to North America, and the state flower of Missouri's neighbor, Kansas.

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