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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsThe Federalist Society (formerly "Supreme") Court & a Republican-led Congress are never coming to the rescue
There is a tendency to say "This can only get so much worse, and then SOMEONE is going to STEP UP."
No, sorry, that will not be happening if your "someone" is Leonard Leo's hand-picked "justices" or the MAGAt House and Senate. They will let Trump burn it all down if they are the only thing standing between him and his worst instincts.
I'm doing my best to read the tea leaves and am still struggling to see that America, in a BIG WAY, gives a damn about what's happening right now.
Honest to God, I have no idea what it's going to take.
Maybe Trump declaring war and calling off the 2026 midterms will do the trick.
Maybe not.
But the one thing I hope that everyone can see is that when it happens, it won't be courtesy of John Roberts, Mean Old Uncle Thomas, Sammy the Flag Man, and Leonard Leo's Three Stooges...OR the Republicans in the House and Senate. NONE OF THESE PEOPLE ARE COMING TO THE RESCUE.
newdeal2
(5,613 posts)Or drive a public campaign to pressure enough of them to resign.
Fiendish Thingy
(24,092 posts)The president just has to sign the law, and so support for court expansion must be a litmus test for selecting the 2028 Dem nominee, as well as selecting Dem nominees for senate.
newdeal2
(5,613 posts)Say what you will about Trump, but he has done a lot of damage with slim margins.
Fiendish Thingy
(24,092 posts)Trump is enabled by a SCOTUS that supports the Unitary Executive (most lower courts do not).
That is why congress must expand the court and castrate the Roberts MAGA majority.
newdeal2
(5,613 posts)And acts outside of traditional norms. Thats going to scare a lot of people on our side, but I dont see any other way.
Fiendish Thingy
(24,092 posts)Thats how we got in this mess.
newdeal2
(5,613 posts)But the next Dem presidency cannot operate like the last three. You cannot paper over the destruction this time.
Fiendish Thingy
(24,092 posts)Without those two steps, long held precedents protecting the rights of the people will continue to be overturned, and rebuilding from the wreckage of the Trump years cannot occur.
I think a president who supports and urges taking those two steps is sufficiently outside the box and norms of business-as-usual Washington to make a substantive difference in repairing the nation.
Miles Archer
(24,338 posts)I understand most of this would be impossible without a significant Dem majority, but...
1). Expand the court
2). IMMEDIATE ethics reform. None of this "form a committee and talk about it forever and do nothing" nonsense. Give it six months and commit to having it DONE and IMPLEMENTED at that time.
3). An IMMEDIATE. RETROACTIVE END to "lifetime appointments."
4). IMPEACH CLARENCE THOMAS for FREQUENT conflicts of interest and "gifts" from his billionaire boy pals.
5). STRICT REQUIREMENTS FOR RECUSAL in which ANY justice has "advocated for" individuals key to their "rulings."
Fiendish Thingy
(24,092 posts)Assuming Fetterman is replaced in 2028.
#2 - the key to ethics reform, IMO, is the ability to suspend justices without pay for noncompliance.
#3 is tricky, as the constitution implies justices shall indefinitely as long as they exhibit good conduct (doesnt mean we shouldnt try for term limits)
#4 I agree congress should hold impeachment hearings, perhaps as a preview for ethics legislation, but removal isnt going to happen. Nevertheless, Clarence is way overdue for his time in the barrel- the hearings should make his confirmation hearings look like a picnic.
#5 - not sure how that would be enforced, but certainly there could be some narrow, concretely defined and enforceable standards created.
Fiendish Thingy
(24,092 posts)States run the elections, and we had them during the Civil War, WWI and II, Viet Nam and after 9/11.
Trump wouldnt be pushing for gerrymandering if he thought he could get away with cancelling elections.
I do agree that the Republican congress and, for the most part , SCOTUS wont rescue us, which is why, when considering which Dem senate candidate to vote for in the primaries, one must consider this litmus test:
1) do they support court expansion and reform to castrate the MAGA majority on the Roberts court?
2) do they support killing the filibuster to do so?
I will not donate to any senate candidate who doesnt support the above actions.
NCDem47
(3,523 posts)If folks can still drive their Gus guzzling trucks and SUVs, sip Starbucks and order Amazon, all is good.
Life is FABULOUS if youre white, straight and Christian. Doesnt matter if you have a few bucks in the bank or leveraged to your eyeballs.
America has totally and utterly lost the thread when it comes to compassion.
It will take people loosing their shit when theres no power, Internet, trash pickup, food or prescriptions and the dollar is worth nothing to realize the veneer was really, really thin.
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