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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsSo it appears that South Korea may have
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provided the ransom in order to get their kidnapped hostages released. While the world sits more or less mute. There should be a general condemnation of the US passed by the UN General Assembly for this and the Venezuela murders. Nothing will happen at the Security Council but the world at large should accelerate actions to turn away from the US financially, socially and militarily and to form a new path of security, trade and interaction.
One major effort should be to start looking at US military facilities in their countries. They should take the first step and restrict all personnel to the base. Then they should cancel the visas for all but a bare skeleton staff at any US embassy etc. and they should have their intelligence services provide a list of suspected US Intelligence personnel in their country. Expel them and place heavy scrutiny on any US visitors to the country.
Let business people make their plans and deals by Zoom. They don't need to physically come to the country. Countries should collectively come together and tell the IMF there will be no more loan payments.
Although the way forward may be difficult it is vital that countries turn to each other in order to form alliances and trade. Doing so can begin to throw off the yoke of US dominance exerted over them financially and militarily. The British Colonial Empire shrank and was replaced by a different structure and means of dominance. It is long past time to make the US understand the word "no".
LudwigPastorius
(15,001 posts)That would require renegotiation of the U.S./ROK Status of Forces Agreement outlined in the Mutual Defense Treaty.
If South Korea were to unilaterally restrict the movement of the U.S. military, the U.S. would consider that a breach of treaty obligations, which would mean that the U.S. is no longer required to defend them if North Korea decided to invade.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mutual_Defense_Treaty_( United_StatesSouth_Korea )
moniss
(9,149 posts)but this is not normal and the US business interests in South Korea are enormous and so I don't see Crumb the 1st failing to defend. Also you have other countries with major economic interests and more than enough capability to defend South Korea.
My suggestion applies to all countries everywhere.
BaronChocula
(4,739 posts)If most countries united and gave this chump the Newsom treatment, we'd see some awesome humiliation. Modi of India has apparently had enough.
swong19104
(662 posts)Can make a joint Western Pacific pact with Japan, Taiwan, Philippines, Australia, New Zealand, Vietnam, and heck, N Korea and even China, if the terms are reasonable.
bottomofthehill
(9,423 posts)Elect decent people president and keep the world order the way that it is with no global conflicts in the last 75 years. Things have gotten close, but held. We the voters failed. Those who called Hillary a war monger failed, those who stayed home over Gaza failed miserably. We may not like it but we are the worlds police officer and look what just a few years of Trump has destroyed balance in the world
moniss
(9,149 posts)world's police officer but that cop has been a dirty cop for a very long time. Many of the conflicts, coups etc. over the last 100 years have our fingerprints all over them. Our conduct in Central and South America is not and never has been about anything other than economic dominance and repression. Our atrocious conduct in Africa and the Middle East would fill the libraries of the world.
For example isn't it amazing how Western governments and the Western media, really most of the world media, can "report" about Yemen and never once in these years talk about the British, US and Israeli actions in Yemen from the 1950's right on up into the '60's and the role that all played in the situation? All for their oil greed. They would have been deliriously happy if not a single human being existed on the land and they could plant their troops and commandeer the oil.
But all of the plotting, murders, arming factions against each other etc. is never discussed or brought up as the US pompously poses itself as doing what it can to stop conflict because it "cares about the people of Yemen and the region" or such other tripe. It is a scenario we have repeated over and over again around the world and in our own country.
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littlemissmartypants
(34,344 posts)And I'm an optimist. Most of the time. 🤣
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twodogsbarking
(19,329 posts)dalton99a
(95,249 posts)Japan should do the same.
Both South Korea and Japan have the technical knowledge and materials. And they can do it in probably two years.
(Missiles should be able to reach Pyongyang and Beijing)
paleotn
(22,727 posts)I've never been one for nuclear proliferation by any means. But that was then, this is now. They may very well need their own nuclear deterrence and not just for Pyongyang. But for DC.
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