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The Epstein Files Discharge Petition Now Has The 218 Votes Needed To Force A Vote
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BoRaGard
(7,591 posts)Justice Brandeis
(405 posts)Would Senate approval be needed? And if so, does that mean we're back to 60 votes required again? Because that seems like a tall order.
Is this like passing a regular bill where Trump would get to veto it?
Wiz Imp
(10,416 posts)The Special Election for Arizona's 7th CD is September 23 (Raul Grijalva's seat)
Both are safely Democratic districts so there is no doubt that the Democrats will win both.
What to expect in Virginias special congressional election
https://apnews.com/article/virginia-congressional-special-election-walkinshaw-whitson-connolly-b36cca1180df518e9ff9cba50f78ce16
2025 Arizona's 7th congressional district special election
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2025_Arizona%27s_7th_congressional_district_special_election
Justice Brandeis
(405 posts)That's what I am asking.
Wiz Imp
(10,416 posts)Here's how the process goes:
After the 218th signature is added, a waiting period of seven legislative days is required. A member who signed the petition can announce their intention to offer the motion to discharge. The Speaker of the House is then required to schedule a floor vote on the motion within two legislative days. The motion to discharge is debated for 20 minutes before the House votes on it. If a majority votes to adopt the motion, the legislation is "discharged" from its committee. Once discharged, the legislation itself is brought to the House floor for debate and a vote. If the legislation passes the House, it would then proceed to the Senate. If the Senate also passes the bill, it would go to the President for signature or veto.
Assuming everyone who signed the discharge petition also votes for the legislation, it will pass the House. What would happen in the Senate is hard to predict at this point.
Justice Brandeis
(405 posts)So you hinted at what I think a lot of people are not taking seriously.
The Senate has to pass a bill too and unless there is some exception to the rules, it will take 60 votes.
paleotn
(22,737 posts)A vote that passes in either house or both keeps the story fresh in minds. And makes Donnie look like he's desperately trying to hide something, which he is. He's getting backed tighter and tighter into that corner. Something's going to give. Hopefully its not some "wag the dog" that gets out of control. Then again, the more mistakes and miscues the better. He gets even more stupid and overplays when he's scared and reacting. Collateral damage is the major worry, but to help save you Republic, perhaps it's worth it.
Wiz Imp
(10,416 posts)Chasstev365
(8,129 posts)scipan
(3,104 posts)Ro Khanna:
I wonder why they're waiting?
littlemissmartypants
(34,377 posts)That is chatting up the various members to determine the numbers. ❤️
calimary
(90,796 posts)But then again
MLWR
(1,076 posts)and need to get to D.C. and be sworn in.
karynnj
(61,094 posts)If it hasn't, this may be in very blue districts, so it may already be clear who will win.
Wiz Imp
(10,416 posts)The first is this Tuesday, the second 2 weeks later. See post #11 for more details
angrychair
(12,504 posts)But so what? Again, they can just ignore and if they do ignore it there are no repercussions. They can just refuse to do it.
There is no compliance mechanism. Not consequences.
That was the whole point about impeachment. Without the Senate and a conviction, the impeachment in the House was pointless.
Same here. The Israeli government can just ignore their Supreme Court and there isn't any repercussions. Unless you have a compliance mechanism and consequences, it's the equivalent of screaming at the wind.
wolfie001
(7,970 posts)SCantiGOP
(14,758 posts)But once the House members have it, they can choose to disclose anything they want to while speaking on the House floor.
InstantGratification
(447 posts)If everyone stands firm, the discharge petition forces Speaker Johnson to schedule a vote on the bill. I hope someone can correct me. By my understanding that bill, not the discharge petition, is what forces the files to be provided to Congress. So basically, we are looking at forcing a vote in the House on the bill. If the bill passes the House, then the Senate would have to pass it. I can't imagine that there wouldn't be a filibuster by at least one republican, forcing the 60 vote threshold to break the filibuster. Even if it passes the Senate, it then faces a veto. That veto forces a 2/3 majority to pass each chamber of Congress to over ride it. I hope I'm wrong, but as I read the tea leaves, we have a better chance of seeing those files if someone at the FBI or DoJ leaks them.
calimary
(90,796 posts)InstantGratification
(447 posts)Even the fight over the discharge petition is raising some eyebrows among conservative voters. Here in SW Ohio, I'm deep in maga country. Plenty of blind followers around here, many will parrot whatever he is saying without the tiniest awareness of the contradictory excuses he is giving and they are repeating. Even still, I am hearing some cracks in his support, we need for Epstein to be front and center. Make the Rs openly pick a side on each and every Epstein related issue and make them OWN it all at the ballot box.
NJCher
(43,530 posts)discusses how they will do this. It is to read the names (Massie and MTG are going to do it) on the floor of the House. This is to protect the women from harrassment. Go to the 3:15 mark and Massie tells how they will do it:
DownriverDem
(7,026 posts)flight records? That would tell us who was on the plane flights.
NJCher
(43,530 posts)I saw them and posted them here quite some time ago. Here's a link:
https://www.epsteinarchive.org/docs/flight-logs/
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