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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsYou all realize that even if the privileged resolution passes in the house to force the release of the Epstein files
it will actually never happen. It has to be voted on in the senate where one would need 60 votes. If that miraculously passes, Trump can veto it and now you need 2/3 in each chamber.
I think there is a better chance that the victims start releasing information themselves, and then eventually force leaks at the justice department or trigger a discovery process after being sued.
spooky3
(38,874 posts)names of people who were in some Epstein records. Epstein was believed to be extremely wealthy and some of the people named in the records may have been sidling up simply to get donations to foundations and may have had no clue about his wrongdoing. I want to know which were the names of people who actually were abusers.
drray23
(8,823 posts)without any trips to that island or anything nefarious. Epstein was a rapist, child abuser but also a financier who interacted with other people in the finance world as well as celebrities and charities.
Wiz Imp
(10,428 posts)to being complete).
There's Epstein's little black book which can be found here: https://dn721200.ca.archive.org/0/items/jeffrey-epstein-39s-little-black-book-unredacted/Jeffrey_Epstein39s_Little_Black_Book_unredacted.pdf
A searchable version can be found here: https://epsteinsblackbook.com/
That site also has listings of his flight logs: https://epsteinsblackbook.com/flights
Of course, somebody being on any of these lists does not mean they are guilty of anything, just that they were in Epstein's orbit. Epstein had interactions with many rich and/or famous people including tons of celebrities who certainly had no clue he was a sex trafficker and abuser.
If the victims compile a list, it will consist entirely of people who they know were directly involved in their trafficking and/or abuse.
Here's an example of how an honest and moral celebrity reacted after being invited to Epstein's New York Mansion.
Comedian Lewis Black went to a get-together there with Woody Allen, Soon Yi, David Blaine & Dick Cavett & David Brenner. He didn't see anything bad but it just gave him a weirded out feeling that he never went back.
Irish_Dem
(82,369 posts)Too many very rich and powerful men on the list.
lame54
(40,107 posts)drray23
(8,823 posts)It's a good way to put the GOP on notice by forcing them to vote no. I am just saying we should not hope for a result other than keeping the discussion going. We are more likely to get results from the actions the victims are starting to take.
Midnight Writer
(25,752 posts)The INVESTIGATION is the important thing.
How does Trump smear his opponents if they are squeaky clean?
He announces an investigation and throws out some scary accusations.
He doesn't care if there actually is an investigation. It is the announcement of an investigation and then referring to the investigation every time that person's name comes up.
We need to keep the story alive even if we can't get all the evidence. Every time trump's name comes up, we should refer to the investigation for child raping, refer to the obvious cover-up, link his name to Epstein and Maxwell, bring up his own stories of his "teen beauty pageant days".
The Art of the Smear (With No Evidence)
The idea is to force republicans to vote on it, and no votes would be used by Dems in the midterms. Otherwise, why are the rethugs fighting so hard to avoid a discharge petition ?
RedArkGuy
(893 posts)Get the names of the senators who vote against the Epstein victims and for the continued coverup of Epstein's trafficking activities on record. Let Democratic Senate candidates call them out repeatedly in debates and campaign commercials.
Skittles
(172,892 posts)these rich fucks are shitting bricks on a daily basis
LexVegas
(6,962 posts)
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