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drray23

(8,823 posts)
Sun Sep 7, 2025, 07:25 PM Sep 2025

You all realize that even if the privileged resolution passes in the house to force the release of the Epstein files

it will actually never happen. It has to be voted on in the senate where one would need 60 votes. If that miraculously passes, Trump can veto it and now you need 2/3 in each chamber.

I think there is a better chance that the victims start releasing information themselves, and then eventually force leaks at the justice department or trigger a discovery process after being sued.


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You all realize that even if the privileged resolution passes in the house to force the release of the Epstein files (Original Post) drray23 Sep 2025 OP
I hope they clarify who actually abused whom, rather than simply list spooky3 Sep 2025 #1
Definitely. There are several known instances where Epstein lend his plane to charity to ferry them somewhere drray23 Sep 2025 #2
There's already "lists" of people with connections to Epstein (though I'm sure they're not remotely close Wiz Imp Sep 2025 #8
Yes very unlikely any names will ever be revealed. Irish_Dem Sep 2025 #3
MAKE THEM WORK FOR IT! lame54 Sep 2025 #4
oh i am fine that we try it. drray23 Sep 2025 #6
Trump has shown us the way forward on this. Midnight Writer Sep 2025 #5
Epstein rso Sep 2025 #7
There's a terrible best-selling book called "Let Them." RedArkGuy Sep 2025 #9
can we at LEAST relish in this thought: Skittles Sep 2025 #10
What? No way! nt LexVegas Sep 2025 #11

spooky3

(38,874 posts)
1. I hope they clarify who actually abused whom, rather than simply list
Sun Sep 7, 2025, 07:29 PM
Sep 2025

names of people who were in some Epstein records. Epstein was believed to be extremely wealthy and some of the people named in the records may have been sidling up simply to get donations to foundations and may have had no clue about his wrongdoing. I want to know which were the names of people who actually were abusers.

drray23

(8,823 posts)
2. Definitely. There are several known instances where Epstein lend his plane to charity to ferry them somewhere
Sun Sep 7, 2025, 07:31 PM
Sep 2025

without any trips to that island or anything nefarious. Epstein was a rapist, child abuser but also a financier who interacted with other people in the finance world as well as celebrities and charities.

Wiz Imp

(10,428 posts)
8. There's already "lists" of people with connections to Epstein (though I'm sure they're not remotely close
Sun Sep 7, 2025, 08:44 PM
Sep 2025

to being complete).

There's Epstein's little black book which can be found here: https://dn721200.ca.archive.org/0/items/jeffrey-epstein-39s-little-black-book-unredacted/Jeffrey_Epstein39s_Little_Black_Book_unredacted.pdf

A searchable version can be found here: https://epsteinsblackbook.com/

That site also has listings of his flight logs: https://epsteinsblackbook.com/flights

Of course, somebody being on any of these lists does not mean they are guilty of anything, just that they were in Epstein's orbit. Epstein had interactions with many rich and/or famous people including tons of celebrities who certainly had no clue he was a sex trafficker and abuser.

If the victims compile a list, it will consist entirely of people who they know were directly involved in their trafficking and/or abuse.

Here's an example of how an honest and moral celebrity reacted after being invited to Epstein's New York Mansion.


Comedian Lewis Black went to a get-together there with Woody Allen, Soon Yi, David Blaine & Dick Cavett & David Brenner. He didn't see anything bad but it just gave him a weirded out feeling that he never went back.

Irish_Dem

(82,369 posts)
3. Yes very unlikely any names will ever be revealed.
Sun Sep 7, 2025, 07:37 PM
Sep 2025

Too many very rich and powerful men on the list.

drray23

(8,823 posts)
6. oh i am fine that we try it.
Sun Sep 7, 2025, 07:52 PM
Sep 2025

It's a good way to put the GOP on notice by forcing them to vote no. I am just saying we should not hope for a result other than keeping the discussion going. We are more likely to get results from the actions the victims are starting to take.

Midnight Writer

(25,752 posts)
5. Trump has shown us the way forward on this.
Sun Sep 7, 2025, 07:51 PM
Sep 2025

The INVESTIGATION is the important thing.

How does Trump smear his opponents if they are squeaky clean?

He announces an investigation and throws out some scary accusations.

He doesn't care if there actually is an investigation. It is the announcement of an investigation and then referring to the investigation every time that person's name comes up.

We need to keep the story alive even if we can't get all the evidence. Every time trump's name comes up, we should refer to the investigation for child raping, refer to the obvious cover-up, link his name to Epstein and Maxwell, bring up his own stories of his "teen beauty pageant days".

The Art of the Smear (With No Evidence)

rso

(2,682 posts)
7. Epstein
Sun Sep 7, 2025, 08:41 PM
Sep 2025

The idea is to force republicans to vote on it, and “no” votes would be used by Dems in the midterms. Otherwise, why are the rethugs fighting so hard to avoid a discharge petition ?

RedArkGuy

(893 posts)
9. There's a terrible best-selling book called "Let Them."
Sun Sep 7, 2025, 08:44 PM
Sep 2025

Get the names of the senators who vote against the Epstein victims and for the continued coverup of Epstein's trafficking activities on record. Let Democratic Senate candidates call them out repeatedly in debates and campaign commercials.

Skittles

(172,892 posts)
10. can we at LEAST relish in this thought:
Sun Sep 7, 2025, 08:45 PM
Sep 2025

these rich fucks are shitting bricks on a daily basis

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