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LAS14

(15,537 posts)
Mon Sep 8, 2025, 10:14 AM Sep 2025

I haven't seen any mention of smallpox and polio. Those are the real...

...biggies in my mind. Are they still given to kids? Are they not being de-recommended?

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hlthe2b

(114,697 posts)
1. Smallpox was eradicated from natural transmission (stored virus remains secured in BL-4 security)
Mon Sep 8, 2025, 10:19 AM
Sep 2025

But it was eradicated in December 1979. Both Russia and CDC have highly secured vials but it would take a bioweaponization to cause it to come back. So, no. we do not vaccinate routinely, although there was a biohazard concern after 911 that had eligible medical staff receiving boosters (I was one of them).

Polio, however, is a concern.

Ocelot II

(131,242 posts)
2. The smallpox vaccine hasn't been given to the public since 1972,
Mon Sep 8, 2025, 10:21 AM
Sep 2025

when it was considered to have been eradicated worldwide. The polio vaccine series is still recommended for children, since the disease still appears, mostly in Africa, though it hasn't been seen in the US in decades.

yardwork

(69,648 posts)
3. Measles, mumps, and rubella are big concerns.
Mon Sep 8, 2025, 10:24 AM
Sep 2025

The MMR vaccine is routinely given to children because those diseases are very serious. They can cause death, lifelong illness, and birth defects.

People die every year from influenza. COVID is still a very serious disease, especially for people with permanent damage, including long COVID. I have all recommended COVID vaccines and I still caught it this past summer. Despite treatment, I had serious symptoms, including a brain fog that persisted for weeks and interfered with my ability to work.

Diphtheria is a big concern. As a child I knew of children who died from diphtheria caused by drinking unpasteurized milk.

RFK, Jr. is pushing a dangerous fantasy.

TBF

(37,197 posts)
4. For a long time I could see the scrape mark on my arm -
Mon Sep 8, 2025, 10:54 AM
Sep 2025

I was given the smallpox vaccine when I was young (born in mid-60s). My grandma had polio when she was young, and those stories encouraged everyone to get their vaccines. Our county extension would do vaccine days in our schools. Like many of you I sit by watching this all incredulously. Why in the world would someone want to bring back so much disease? They are acting like they WANT to kill off large portions of the population.

EYESORE 9001

(29,889 posts)
6. I remember getting the smallpox vaccine
Mon Sep 8, 2025, 11:26 AM
Sep 2025

Short needle, stabby nurse. Punched about 10 little holes in just a couple of seconds. I felt so violated. Stop with the stabbing!

MineralMan

(151,563 posts)
7. Well, you'd not have enjoyed having smallpox, I guarantee.
Mon Sep 8, 2025, 11:40 AM
Sep 2025

The vaccination was not that big a deal, really.

MineralMan

(151,563 posts)
12. Yeah, I was about that old, too.
Mon Sep 8, 2025, 12:22 PM
Sep 2025

I had a scab on my arm for a few days. I don't remember it being traumatic, though. Not at all.

cbabe

(6,817 posts)
5. Also whooping cough. Very dangerous to children and adults. Vaccines
Mon Sep 8, 2025, 11:05 AM
Sep 2025

wear off after a couple of decades so adults should consider boosters.

I didn’t know and was bed ridden for six months.

https://my.clevelandclinic.org/health/drugs/21639-pertussis-whooping-cough-vaccine

Hope22

(4,882 posts)
9. Whooping cough and tetanus can be administered in one shot.
Mon Sep 8, 2025, 11:55 AM
Sep 2025

Doctor cornered me for that a while back!

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