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Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin

(137,468 posts)
Mon Sep 8, 2025, 07:15 PM Sep 2025

Is Kilmar Abrego Garcia an MS-13 member? Here's what the documents say.

Since Kilmar Armando Abrego Garcia burst into the national zeitgeist amid a crackdown on illegal immigration in March, Trump administration officials in Washington, DC, have reiterated hundreds of times that the Salvadoran is a member of the transnational gang Mara Salvatrucha or MS-13.

That rhetoric has only amplified with Abrego Garcia’s criminal indictment in Tennessee, where federal prosecutors have called him not only a member, but a ringleader in the gang and a prolific human smuggler.

But the evidence of Abrego Garcia’s gang ties remains limited, and has been called into question by immigration judges, magistrates and district court judges.

U. S. District Judge Waverly Crenshaw in Tennessee wrote in July that concluding Abrego Garcia is a vicious gang kingpin “would border on fanciful.”

https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/kilmar-abrego-garcia-ms-13-141416679.html

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Is Kilmar Abrego Garcia an MS-13 member? Here's what the documents say. (Original Post) Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Sep 2025 OP
Statement from police who detained him said no evidence of gang affiliation Nevilledog Sep 2025 #1
From a criminal standpoint, Abrego is not in MS-13. LeftInTX Sep 2025 #2

Nevilledog

(55,137 posts)
1. Statement from police who detained him said no evidence of gang affiliation
Mon Sep 8, 2025, 07:24 PM
Sep 2025
https://www.dcnewsnow.com/news/local-news/maryland/prince-georges-county/hyattsville-police-department-details-2019-encounter-with-kilmar-abrego-garcia/

HYATTSVILLE, Md. (DC News Now) — In a news release published Monday, the City of Hyattsville Police Department (HPD) said that “at no time” did its officers identify Kilmar Armando Abrego Garcia as a member of any gang.

HPD said that on March 28, 2019, a detective saw four men standing outside of a store in the 3300 block of East-West Highway. That detective saw them seem to hide something under a car, so he approached them.

“During the encounter, the detective recognized one of the men as a known member of MS-13. This individual was not Abrego Garcia,” HPD said.

The detective searched the men and found 28 grams of suspected marijuana on Abrego Garcia. HPD seized the suspected marijuana but did not file any criminal charges.

HPD said that during an MS-13-related homicide investigation in Prince George’s County, its detective notified the Prince George’s County Police Department (PGPD) about the four men who were detained and told PGPD that one of those men was a known MS-13 member.

PGPD took those four men, including Abrego Garcia, to one of its stations. PGPD said that it did not arrest Abrego Garcia but that it did have “reasonable suspicion” that “some of the men displayed traits associated with MS-13 gang culture.”

“At no time did any member of the HPD identify or file any reports classifying Abrego Garcia as a member of any gang,” HPD’s statement read.

LeftInTX

(34,852 posts)
2. From a criminal standpoint, Abrego is not in MS-13.
Mon Sep 8, 2025, 07:42 PM
Sep 2025

However, he has friends in MS-13, which could hurt him from an immigration standpoint.

Trump's rhetoric adds hyperboly to the whole thing.

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