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Chasstev365

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The right wing wet dreams are coming true Walleye Sep 2025 #1
Some courts are trying to protect people from abuses. Some are throwing distractions to the magas Attilatheblond Sep 2025 #12
The problem is Trump ignores and flouts all Lower Court rulings because he's got SCOTUS in his back pocket Walleye Sep 2025 #16
of course... markie Sep 2025 #2
To be clear, that's Republican Senator Eric Schmitt, not just any random NatC muriel_volestrangler Sep 2025 #5
By far, the majority of immigrants from Europe came here for economic reasons, not religious ones. Lonestarblue Sep 2025 #24
They didn't "settle", they invaded, conquered, and occupied. SharonAnn Sep 2025 #50
And yet.. it never did belong to us.. and never will. ananda Sep 2025 #19
This message was self-deleted by its author Miami Blue Sep 2025 #3
Yep! Stop and frisk gone national... Wounded Bear Sep 2025 #4
It's worse than stop and frisk AdamGG Sep 2025 #29
Yeah, moving into Nacht und Nebel territory...nt Wounded Bear Sep 2025 #30
You forgot....women! Hope22 Sep 2025 #6
Thanks. I will edit! Chasstev365 Sep 2025 #8
Just thinking that. The women who ran the households and built the families. That's who we have to thank Walleye Sep 2025 #17
They have already been doing it. They have all of the information, collected by race. twodogsbarking Sep 2025 #7
can we profile MAGA? Puppyjive Sep 2025 #9
Nope, red hats are symbol of the scared cows. republianmushroom Sep 2025 #22
It's been the reality of black folk BumRushDaShow Sep 2025 #10
This JustAnotherGen Sep 2025 #26
if women, poc. or , one iota different they come after you. AllaN01Bear Sep 2025 #11
They already harassed Native Americans KT2000 Sep 2025 #13
Yes, many have "brought up" this garbage - Nigrum Cattus Sep 2025 #14
Everyone needs to carry proof of US citizenship at all times FakeNoose Sep 2025 #15
I have photos of all those, BidenRocks Sep 2025 #44
Pool: How long until Sotomayor is ICEd? Bobstandard Sep 2025 #18
Ivana told the world that Donald kept a book of Hitler's speeches by his bed...He's a Fascist. Joinfortmill Sep 2025 #20
And all the Democrats can say is, "Send money, 1WorldHope Sep 2025 #21
Sinedo hispano, liberalgunwilltravel Sep 2025 #23
Yes. Maya Wiley brought this up dead seriously on MSNBC yesterday. I can't remember what show she was on though. chowder66 Sep 2025 #25
Just a reminder BaronChocula Sep 2025 #27
Yes I did, yesterday and I will repost it here. Buddyzbuddy Sep 2025 #28
won't stop North Coast Lawyer Sep 2025 #31
Justice Sotomayor Hekate Sep 2025 #32
Justice Sotomayor lets her voice be heard. yellow dahlia Sep 2025 #42
And yet, no one is doing anything about it. BlueTsunami2018 Sep 2025 #33
Because of the SHADOW DOCKET, they aren't documenting ANYTHING Bluetus Sep 2025 #34
Yes. 9 years ago Buttoneer Sep 2025 #35
I have mentioned my fears that, as a gay man, they would be coming for us sooner or later. (n/t) OldBaldy1701E Sep 2025 #36
It won't be long canetoad Sep 2025 #37
K&R for deporting (most of) the Supreme KKKourt. usonian Sep 2025 #38
i was riffing on that poem in January. barbtries Sep 2025 #39
I think they are labeling protestors as violent terrorists, yellow dahlia Sep 2025 #40
Yes, and more will be coming soldierant Sep 2025 #41
The republicans are taking us back to 1850. madinmaryland Sep 2025 #43
Gov Pretzker asked "What comes next?" in his speech yesterday. Gimpyknee Sep 2025 #45
He GETS it! Thank you Governor JB Pritzker FakeNoose Sep 2025 #46
He says out loud what we are thinking. thought crime Sep 2025 #47
Matthew Cooke's response to yesterday's unsigned order by SCOTUS allowing racial profiling is brilliant, powerful. summer_in_TX Sep 2025 #48
answer to op title: A few of us might've mentioned it. B.See Sep 2025 #49
We're well past any firsts Queso Delicioso Sep 2025 #51
I think it may have been mentioned, in passing, but not in bold faced caps -- as it should be RVN VET71 Sep 2025 #52

Walleye

(45,434 posts)
1. The right wing wet dreams are coming true
Tue Sep 9, 2025, 09:47 AM
Sep 2025

Attilatheblond

(9,230 posts)
12. Some courts are trying to protect people from abuses. Some are throwing distractions to the magas
Tue Sep 9, 2025, 11:47 AM
Sep 2025

As the fascists' personal histories are bursting thru their media choke-holds here and there, the last line of defense is riding in to rescue them with distractions to keep the idiots distracted.

Walleye

(45,434 posts)
16. The problem is Trump ignores and flouts all Lower Court rulings because he's got SCOTUS in his back pocket
Tue Sep 9, 2025, 12:22 PM
Sep 2025

markie

(24,056 posts)
2. of course...
Tue Sep 9, 2025, 09:53 AM
Sep 2025

natcon members say it best

"The white Europeans who settled America and conquered the West “believed they were forging a nation—a homeland for themselves and their descendants,” he said. “They fought, they bled, they struggled, they died for us. They built this country for us. America, in all its glory, is their gift to us, handed down across the generations. It belongs to us...."

scary indeed!

muriel_volestrangler

(106,599 posts)
5. To be clear, that's Republican Senator Eric Schmitt, not just any random NatC
Tue Sep 9, 2025, 10:29 AM
Sep 2025
The Continental Army soldiers dying of frostbite at Valley Forge, the Pilgrims struggling to survive in the hard winter soil of Plymouth, the pioneers striking out from Missouri for the wild and dangerous frontier, the outnumbered Kentucky settlers repelling wave after wave of Indian war band attacks from behind their stockade walls—all of them would be astonished to hear that they were only fighting for a “proposition.”

They believed they were forging a nation—a homeland for themselves and their descendants. They fought, they bled, they struggled, they died for us. They built this country for us.
...
We Americans are the sons and daughters of the Christian pilgrims that poured out from Europe’s shores to baptize a new world in their ancient faith. Our ancestors were driven here by destiny, possessed by urgent and fiery conviction, by burning belief, devoted to their cause and their God.
...
As the historian David McCullough writes, the Scots-Irish families that first settled Missouri “saw themselves as the true Americans”:

https://www.dailysignal.com/2025/09/02/schmitt-what-is-an-american/

So yeah, settling a country already inhabited by Native Americans is what he's proud of, and he thinks you need European Christian ancestry to be an American. And that it's about God, and Manifest Destiny - he defends:

'The Department of Homeland Security’s Twitter account posted an image of the famous painting “American Progress”—one of the most iconic illustrations of Manifest Destiny, depicting settlers striding outward to the frontier, with Lady Columbia watching over them from above.'

Lonestarblue

(13,560 posts)
24. By far, the majority of immigrants from Europe came here for economic reasons, not religious ones.
Tue Sep 9, 2025, 01:02 PM
Sep 2025

It’s a gross distortion to claim that only white people built this country, but it probably is not a distortion to say that only white people murdered millions of Native Americans to take their lands.

SharonAnn

(14,178 posts)
50. They didn't "settle", they invaded, conquered, and occupied.
Wed Sep 10, 2025, 07:52 AM
Sep 2025

ananda

(35,513 posts)
19. And yet.. it never did belong to us.. and never will.
Tue Sep 9, 2025, 12:33 PM
Sep 2025

That's not how the world works, even if humans act that way.

Response to Chasstev365 (Original post)

Wounded Bear

(64,637 posts)
4. Yep! Stop and frisk gone national...
Tue Sep 9, 2025, 10:24 AM
Sep 2025

Supposedly it's not about racial profiling, they could stop anybody, but at first they only pick on those 'undesirable' dark skinned folks.

AdamGG

(1,896 posts)
29. It's worse than stop and frisk
Tue Sep 9, 2025, 02:46 PM
Sep 2025

Stop and frisk let people go if they didn't have drugs or weapons. Now, they arrest you if du hast papellen nicht.

Dump has repeatedly said that he wants to go after the "home growns". The next logical step is arrests and detainment of American citizens. DOJ/FBI/Homeland Security have been staffed with people who will have no problem with pursuing this.

They're already sending people to prisons in Uganda and South Sudan who have been convicted of no crime, who have had no type of hearing or due process at all.

I guess the mainstream media has mentioned it, but the degree that this has been normalized, not just by the right wing press, but overall, is shocking. All outlets should be screaming about this 24/7; there should be masses out in the streets.

Wounded Bear

(64,637 posts)
30. Yeah, moving into Nacht und Nebel territory...nt
Tue Sep 9, 2025, 02:48 PM
Sep 2025

Hope22

(4,878 posts)
6. You forgot....women!
Tue Sep 9, 2025, 10:38 AM
Sep 2025

Chasstev365

(8,128 posts)
8. Thanks. I will edit!
Tue Sep 9, 2025, 10:54 AM
Sep 2025

Walleye

(45,434 posts)
17. Just thinking that. The women who ran the households and built the families. That's who we have to thank
Tue Sep 9, 2025, 12:26 PM
Sep 2025

twodogsbarking

(19,340 posts)
7. They have already been doing it. They have all of the information, collected by race.
Tue Sep 9, 2025, 10:54 AM
Sep 2025

Puppyjive

(1,007 posts)
9. can we profile MAGA?
Tue Sep 9, 2025, 11:18 AM
Sep 2025

if we see the red hats, can we call someone? Sounds like Trump wants to target political enemies.

republianmushroom

(22,702 posts)
22. Nope, red hats are symbol of the scared cows.
Tue Sep 9, 2025, 12:38 PM
Sep 2025

BumRushDaShow

(172,250 posts)
10. It's been the reality of black folk
Tue Sep 9, 2025, 11:20 AM
Sep 2025

since the day their ancestors were dragged over here 400 years ago, and every day in the current era. Statistics are published continually and no one seems to care or attempts to remedy the problem.

Newcomers are even "warned" that historically, this country has always flipped at any time to go after others, but...

That's what prompted the old Family Guy meme and its variations (from the episode "Turban Cowboy" in 2013) -

JustAnotherGen

(38,109 posts)
26. This
Tue Sep 9, 2025, 01:31 PM
Sep 2025

It's our lived experience.

AllaN01Bear

(29,803 posts)
11. if women, poc. or , one iota different they come after you.
Tue Sep 9, 2025, 11:28 AM
Sep 2025

KT2000

(22,221 posts)
13. They already harassed Native Americans
Tue Sep 9, 2025, 12:04 PM
Sep 2025

when they stopped the firefighters. Tribes have advised their members to carry proof of citizenship - but what will that matter when they just load people into their unmarked vans without listening to them.

These untrained, likely mentally challenged, incels have been given supreme power over all of us now.


FakeNoose

(42,406 posts)
15. Everyone needs to carry proof of US citizenship at all times
Tue Sep 9, 2025, 12:22 PM
Sep 2025

That's the answer. I'm not an immigrant ... I'm a Caucasian middle-class woman, but I always have my US passport to show ID. I advise anyone who might be stopped, please get and carry a US passport. Don't allow it to be taken away from you.

I also have a copy of my birth certificate but I don't usually carry it with me because it's fragile.

If you have a Green Card or any other ID, use the same precaution, but also carry another form of ID such as a state driver's license or voting card.

BidenRocks

(3,491 posts)
44. I have photos of all those,
Tue Sep 9, 2025, 08:46 PM
Sep 2025

on my phone of course.

Bobstandard

(2,373 posts)
18. Pool: How long until Sotomayor is ICEd?
Tue Sep 9, 2025, 12:31 PM
Sep 2025

It’s only a matter of time until Sotomayor is stopped on her way to work, or at a restaurant, or out shopping, by some ICE goon who thinks/pretends she’s an illegal. He’ll get to humiliates, detain her, even incarcerate her just because of the color of her skin, eyes, or hair. The rest of the Supremes surely knew that they were setting it up.

So I’m guessing inside 30 days.

Joinfortmill

(21,668 posts)
20. Ivana told the world that Donald kept a book of Hitler's speeches by his bed...He's a Fascist.
Tue Sep 9, 2025, 12:33 PM
Sep 2025

1WorldHope

(2,155 posts)
21. And all the Democrats can say is, "Send money,
Tue Sep 9, 2025, 12:37 PM
Sep 2025

this is unpresidented!"

liberalgunwilltravel

(1,251 posts)
23. Sinedo hispano,
Tue Sep 9, 2025, 12:40 PM
Sep 2025

ciertamente me preocupa, sin embargo lo que más me preocupa es que todos los estadounidiense están riesgo!

chowder66

(12,512 posts)
25. Yes. Maya Wiley brought this up dead seriously on MSNBC yesterday. I can't remember what show she was on though.
Tue Sep 9, 2025, 01:21 PM
Sep 2025

When it was her time to respond she took a long quiet pause and came out with just this. That it will happen to other groups.
I've heard or read others stating the same thing but I can't recall where. Maybe bluesky or other MSNBC programs.

BaronChocula

(4,745 posts)
27. Just a reminder
Tue Sep 9, 2025, 01:54 PM
Sep 2025

Racial profiling HAS been in the law enforcement toolbox with little recourse even before this decision. Cops have already realized this for years.

I know there's a cop saying in at least one city:
Q: What do you call a black man on a bike?
A: Probable cause.

I heard this over 30 years ago.

Buddyzbuddy

(2,901 posts)
28. Yes I did, yesterday and I will repost it here.
Tue Sep 9, 2025, 01:54 PM
Sep 2025

18. America needs to read the end of the story, very quickly.
Yesterday
This isn't just about brown people like me. It's about all obviously white males being exempt, period. Not just obvious minorities but also all women can be stopped, frisked and questioned in states with laws against abortion. Think about it.

Welcome to my world. "We asked you nicely", not to vote for him, "now youse can't leave." It's just a matter of time.
Oh, and those pesky laws about pedophelia, rich white guys, don't worry about them. Have at it, you're exempt.
Slavery, back on the books in no time.
It's a trickle now, but the flood is coming thanks to 6 King makers on the Supreme Court. That includes one black male that won't live to see what his vote has done and one white female that will get a box seat to watch what her work has done.

Stupid, stupid, stupid voters.

North Coast Lawyer

(266 posts)
31. won't stop
Tue Sep 9, 2025, 03:10 PM
Sep 2025

Anyone thinks this fascism will stop with "show me your papers" is in for a very rude awakening.

Hekate

(100,133 posts)
32. Justice Sotomayor
Tue Sep 9, 2025, 03:33 PM
Sep 2025
https://www.democraticunderground.com/10143526476

Sotomayor Scorches Supreme Court's Racial Profiling Ruling In Blistering Dissent

Source: Huff Post
Sep 8, 2025, 03:21 PM EDT | Updated an hour ago

Justice Sonia Sotomayor issued a scathing dissent to Monday’s Supreme Court ruling authorizing immigration agents’ use of racial profiling, saying it’s “unconscionably irreconcilable” with the U.S. Constitution.

“We should not have to live in a country where the Government can seize anyone who looks Latino, speaks Spanish, and appears to work a low wage job,” Sotomayor wrote.

More at link

yellow dahlia

(6,464 posts)
42. Justice Sotomayor lets her voice be heard.
Tue Sep 9, 2025, 08:30 PM
Sep 2025

She is the real deal.

BlueTsunami2018

(5,075 posts)
33. And yet, no one is doing anything about it.
Tue Sep 9, 2025, 03:35 PM
Sep 2025

The kids in Napal know what they’re doing.

Our kids are busy listening to Nazi podcasts and whining because girls won’t fuck them.

This is by design.

Bluetus

(3,086 posts)
34. Because of the SHADOW DOCKET, they aren't documenting ANYTHING
Tue Sep 9, 2025, 05:59 PM
Sep 2025

They are just getting in a room and deciding what they want for each case and never explaining any legal basis for any of it.

That is horrible. Dems should be actively campaigning o issues like this. The average person doesn't understand how the court works, it with some repetition, we could make the "shadow docket" think stick. That phrase already sounds like Darth Vader. We don't have to explain. Just go with , "If you give the Democrats a governing majority, we will reform the Supreme Court, with term limits, a strict code of conduct and ethics, the end of the shadow docket, and no more stolen seats."

Buttoneer

(994 posts)
35. Yes. 9 years ago
Tue Sep 9, 2025, 06:18 PM
Sep 2025
https://sabrinapenayoung.medium.com/variations-on-niemoller-first-they-came-for-the-hispanics-and-latinos-and-i-did-not-speak-out-6a5cd5058e6d

First they came for the Hispanics and Latinos, and I did not speak out —
Because I was not Hispanic or Latino.

Then they came for the Muslims and the Jews, and I did not speak out —
Because I was not a Muslim or a Jew.

OldBaldy1701E

(11,550 posts)
36. I have mentioned my fears that, as a gay man, they would be coming for us sooner or later. (n/t)
Tue Sep 9, 2025, 06:39 PM
Sep 2025

canetoad

(21,027 posts)
37. It won't be long
Tue Sep 9, 2025, 07:26 PM
Sep 2025

Before he tries to rescind the ADA so that he can continue to openly mock disabilities.

usonian

(26,591 posts)
38. K&R for deporting (most of) the Supreme KKKourt.
Tue Sep 9, 2025, 07:57 PM
Sep 2025

barbtries

(31,350 posts)
39. i was riffing on that poem in January.
Tue Sep 9, 2025, 08:09 PM
Sep 2025

First they came for the scientists.

I think many of us recognize that unless we are all safe, none of us is safe. Many more do not. They think I'm white, I'm republican, I'm "christian" - ain't gonna save you.

yellow dahlia

(6,464 posts)
40. I think they are labeling protestors as violent terrorists,
Tue Sep 9, 2025, 08:21 PM
Sep 2025

so they can "come for them".

soldierant

(9,372 posts)
41. Yes, and more will be coming
Tue Sep 9, 2025, 08:25 PM
Sep 2025
https://roberthubbell.substack.com/p/supreme-court-authorizes-ice-to-use

I have had a bunch of write-your-Congresscritter request, and have signed and sent most of them. I expect Substack to be full of it by tomorrow.

Joyce Vance and Heather Cox Richardson did a video which is up on Preet Bharara's Substack - I'm not even a free subscriber there but was able to see it. They touched on it

madinmaryland

(65,775 posts)
43. The republicans are taking us back to 1850.
Tue Sep 9, 2025, 08:44 PM
Sep 2025

There will be bloodshed.

 

Gimpyknee

(1,025 posts)
45. Gov Pretzker asked "What comes next?" in his speech yesterday.
Tue Sep 9, 2025, 09:11 PM
Sep 2025

FakeNoose

(42,406 posts)
46. He GETS it! Thank you Governor JB Pritzker
Tue Sep 9, 2025, 10:05 PM
Sep 2025

And he is a wealthy, powerful white man who is willing to speak up for those who aren't. I love the fact that Gov. Pritzker has more money and social status than Chump, and he never misses an opportunity to let him know.

thought crime

(1,786 posts)
47. He says out loud what we are thinking.
Tue Sep 9, 2025, 10:59 PM
Sep 2025

summer_in_TX

(4,271 posts)
48. Matthew Cooke's response to yesterday's unsigned order by SCOTUS allowing racial profiling is brilliant, powerful.
Tue Sep 9, 2025, 11:54 PM
Sep 2025

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I don't have a TikTok account, but this link played for me. I promise it's worth seeing. Makes me mighty tempted to get one!

B.See

(8,856 posts)
49. answer to op title: A few of us might've mentioned it.
Wed Sep 10, 2025, 12:18 AM
Sep 2025

Queso Delicioso

(209 posts)
51. We're well past any firsts
Wed Sep 10, 2025, 07:59 AM
Sep 2025

People need to stop with the "it could happen" and realize that it IS happening.

RVN VET71

(3,216 posts)
52. I think it may have been mentioned, in passing, but not in bold faced caps -- as it should be
Wed Sep 10, 2025, 08:04 AM
Sep 2025

Hitler, like Trump, started with a few "out groups" and, seeing how simple it was to get away with mass murdering them, he advanced his idea to encompass everyone, potentially. And he did, in fact, use his ICE troops to snatch people off the street and disappear them. (Oh, wait, did I say ICE? Of course I meant its father, the Gestapo.

Your well-taken point is that without constantly ramming home the comparison, the assault on Democracy is allowed to continue, without the vilification it requires.

The SCOTUS -- and Roberts SCOTUS is the worst in our history, the most shamefacedly partisan Court in our history. By allowing ICE to profile hispanics, these bastards -- and bastardette -- knowingly and eagerly opened the door for their favorite "president" to use his absolute power to arrest, detain, and deport or literally kill anyone he dislikes.

And this is not in any degree an exaggeration. The boa constrictor, as Shel Silverstein reminds us, starts at your feet, nibbling a bit at your toes and ankles, but it never, never stops there. It gradually moves up until it has consumed the entire body. What was the tag line of the song?
"Oh, dread, its up to my . . . ."

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