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tavernier

(14,510 posts)
Tue Sep 9, 2025, 11:12 AM Sep 2025

Newsom must run on enlarging the SCOTUS

since they have now ruled to allow Trump the vandalization of our states. I’m certain these rulings will continue in the new oligarchy to come until we are no longer a mere shadow of our former country and our constitution

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Newsom must run on enlarging the SCOTUS (Original Post) tavernier Sep 2025 OP
There are thirteen appellate courts, so there should be 13 supreme court justices. Add four more once OLDMDDEM Sep 2025 #1
I posted similar last year InstantGratification Sep 2025 #17
We need to win and win big. OLDMDDEM Sep 2025 #18
Newsom? It should be part of the DNC platform for all candidates Fiendish Thingy Sep 2025 #2
I think Biden should have tavernier Sep 2025 #8
Unfortunately, Biden didn't have the votes in the senate even if he wanted to expand the court Fiendish Thingy Sep 2025 #11
What's to run on? hardluck Sep 2025 #3
No. ForgedCrank Sep 2025 #4
I wouldn't run on that Johnny2X2X Sep 2025 #5
Expand the court, or live under Republican rule forever. dalton99a Sep 2025 #6
I like the Mexican Supreme Court. essaynnc Sep 2025 #7
Sadly, ours don't have a limited terms. tavernier Sep 2025 #9
In addition Haru Sep 2025 #15
The Republicans will say "what a great idea" and pass it immediately Shrek Sep 2025 #10
And can do it with the slogan ' we have to expand Supreme Court in order to save it ' (from itself) Fullduplexxx Sep 2025 #12
He should run on INVESTIGATING members for bribery Mr.WeRP Sep 2025 #13
Maybe Newsom should run on popular issues instead. comradebillyboy Sep 2025 #14
"Packing markodochartaigh Sep 2025 #16
Has he changed his mind since 2022? TheProle Sep 2025 #19

OLDMDDEM

(3,283 posts)
1. There are thirteen appellate courts, so there should be 13 supreme court justices. Add four more once
Tue Sep 9, 2025, 11:16 AM
Sep 2025

Dems have the senate and the presidency.

17. I posted similar last year
Tue Sep 9, 2025, 02:20 PM
Sep 2025

My proposal was to first expand to 15 appellate courts. The population of the country has grown enough that the current courts are overloaded. This would spread that workload around. That would require redrawing the circuit court territorial maps. Another benefit beyond dividing up the work load would be breaking up the highly biased 5th circuit and splitting up those conservative judges to dilute their influence. We can't take away their lifetime appointment, but we can split up their majority and tame them a bit. Of course, changing the circuit court maps would also require redrawing the district court territories within those circuits. Once we have 15 fairly drawn circuit maps, appoint a justice to oversea each of them. Currently, with 12 circuit courts and the Federal Appeals Court and 9 justices, some justice oversee 2 courts and some oversee 1.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_courts_of_appeals

Fiendish Thingy

(24,092 posts)
2. Newsom? It should be part of the DNC platform for all candidates
Tue Sep 9, 2025, 11:31 AM
Sep 2025

Any Dem senate primary candidate who doesn’t support court expansion, and killing the filibuster to pass it, will not get my financial support.

While making court expansion a central focus may be risky strategically, it nevertheless must be a component of all future campaigns. Make it a bullet point in a long list of progressive policy positions, then focus on the issues that voters care about most.

tavernier

(14,510 posts)
8. I think Biden should have
Tue Sep 9, 2025, 12:03 PM
Sep 2025

But I bet he honestly didn’t think Johnny Roberts and his pals were so compromised and tainted.

Fiendish Thingy

(24,092 posts)
11. Unfortunately, Biden didn't have the votes in the senate even if he wanted to expand the court
Tue Sep 9, 2025, 12:20 PM
Sep 2025

Manchin, Sinema and Fetterman would all have been no votes.

None of them will be in the senate in 2029.

hardluck

(792 posts)
3. What's to run on?
Tue Sep 9, 2025, 11:41 AM
Sep 2025

I’m sure there are plenty of Republicans in the House and Senate who would agree to such a proposal right now. Bipartisanship at its finest.

ForgedCrank

(3,120 posts)
4. No.
Tue Sep 9, 2025, 11:45 AM
Sep 2025

This is bad practice. We don't govern via a court using unelected career lawyers. We govern with solid policy that is attractive to enough people to get them passed into law. Yes, it is the that hard way, but that's the proper way.

Johnny2X2X

(24,438 posts)
5. I wouldn't run on that
Tue Sep 9, 2025, 11:46 AM
Sep 2025

I think expanding the SCOTUS is really needed, but I don't think it would be popular to run on. So do what Republicans do, run on total fantasy BS the people will like, and then do what you want once you win.

essaynnc

(993 posts)
7. I like the Mexican Supreme Court.
Tue Sep 9, 2025, 12:00 PM
Sep 2025

I don't think that just increasing the number will really solve the problems long term. There was a DU post about the Mexican Supreme Court the other day.

They are elected directly by the people.
They serve a limited term, I guess one rolls off and is replaced each year.
This is what I remember, I'm sure there's more, but this is a start.

I will add:
You serve ONCE.
There have to be minimum requirements for the position.
The same ethics as the entire rest of the judiciary! NO MOTORHOMES! Who would make that decision and enforce any wrongdoing?
Increase the number to match the number of districts (13??)
Recall or impeachment rules need to be changed to make it NON-POLITICAL.
How do we, the people say...."B.S., that ruling is incorrect!" ???

What have I missed?

Shrek

(4,464 posts)
10. The Republicans will say "what a great idea" and pass it immediately
Tue Sep 9, 2025, 12:10 PM
Sep 2025

Not the right time to bring it up.

Fullduplexxx

(8,633 posts)
12. And can do it with the slogan ' we have to expand Supreme Court in order to save it ' (from itself)
Tue Sep 9, 2025, 12:35 PM
Sep 2025
 

Mr.WeRP

(1,098 posts)
13. He should run on INVESTIGATING members for bribery
Tue Sep 9, 2025, 01:37 PM
Sep 2025

In the traditional sense, not according to the redefinition by same justices who've been engaging in it. ARREST the fucks Thomas and Alito and reopen the rape investigation of Beer Boy.

comradebillyboy

(10,963 posts)
14. Maybe Newsom should run on popular issues instead.
Tue Sep 9, 2025, 01:41 PM
Sep 2025

Packing the court is a losing electoral issue. If FDR couldn't do it I doubt if anybody else can.

markodochartaigh

(5,545 posts)
16. "Packing
Tue Sep 9, 2025, 02:19 PM
Sep 2025

the court is a losing electoral issue. If FDR couldn't do it I doubt if anybody else can."

Maybe it is a losing electoral issue, at least for Democratic politicians. However the court has already been packed. McConnell and the Republicans did it by refusing to give a hearing to Obama's nominee and then by fast tracking Trump's. And McConnell even admitted that the Republicans would refuse to give a hearing to future Democratic nominees.

The supremacist court has absolutely already been packed. And the Republicans have paid practically no price for it. For Republicans it is a winning electoral issue.

TheProle

(4,111 posts)
19. Has he changed his mind since 2022?
Tue Sep 9, 2025, 02:36 PM
Sep 2025
Newsom pours water on Supreme Court expansion but favors filibuster reform

California Gov. Gavin Newsom (D), a leading party figure and potential future candidate for president, on Thursday dismissed calls to expand the Supreme Court, which are gaining traction with other Democratic officeholders.

“No, because my kids are going to live with a Supreme Court that’s larger than Congress,” he said, predicting that if Democrats expand the high court from nine to 13 justices to balance out conservatives, Republicans will retaliate with a similar tactic when they return to power.

Three Democratic senators have sponsored a bill to expand the size of the Supreme Court, and Senate Majority Leader Charles Schumer (D-N.Y.) hasn’t ruled out considering it on the floor at some point in the future, though right now Democrats couldn’t get it past a Republican filibuster.

But Newsom, who visited Capitol Hill on Thursday, said he is open to reforming the Senate’s filibuster rule, which has allowed Republicans to bring President Biden’s agenda to a grinding halt.


https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/3559555-newsom-pours-water-on-supreme-court-expansion-but-favors-filibuster-reform/

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