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no_hypocrisy

(54,906 posts)
Wed Sep 10, 2025, 06:01 AM Sep 2025

Why hasn't the murder of Iryna Zarutska been mentioned earlier?

She was killed August 22, 2-1/2 weeks ago.

And why is her murder being pinned on Democrats?

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Why hasn't the murder of Iryna Zarutska been mentioned earlier? (Original Post) no_hypocrisy Sep 2025 OP
Where are the Epstein files? nt RandiFan1290 Sep 2025 #1
It has been many times before her name was identified. A troll yesterday accused DU of hlthe2b Sep 2025 #2
Just wondering why they waited so long and why it's a national story. no_hypocrisy Sep 2025 #5
Because Transportation Secretary is exploiting this by saying he will cease all funding to NC Metro hlthe2b Sep 2025 #6
OK, while it doesn't make sense to me, it explains why. no_hypocrisy Sep 2025 #8
It is a national story because it was a horrific murder captured on video MichMan Sep 2025 #22
Caught on video makes it news lame54 Sep 2025 #34
Same obamanut2012 Sep 2025 #21
Blame the guy on video killing her, but what do I know? Brainfodder Sep 2025 #3
For the same reason I just flipped on Fox and they're still talking about Cracker Barrel underpants Sep 2025 #4
Just guessing... Mike Nelson Sep 2025 #7
Guessing because there are a lot of murders NOT DISCUSSED much sadly EFD? Brainfodder Sep 2025 #9
He was arrested JustAnotherGen Sep 2025 #10
How come we haven't heard about the arrest of Laken Snelling? nt RandiFan1290 Sep 2025 #11
A young, pretty blonde woman was attacked by a deranged, homeless black man with an extensive criminal past. sop Sep 2025 #12
It's a local crime story for the Charlotte NC area. One woman got killed on the light rail ms liberty Sep 2025 #13
She was a Ukrainian refugee and this wasn't a robbery turned violent type of thing JI7 Sep 2025 #15
I live in the Charlotte media market, and this story is not new to me ms liberty Sep 2025 #23
Her being a Ukrainian refugee would make it national JI7 Sep 2025 #25
Bad bad Quazie Sep 2025 #36
Becsuse of what happened in NY and many on the left JI7 Sep 2025 #14
And saying it's just a local crime story doesn't work when you have all the Israeli Palestine JI7 Sep 2025 #16
American justice...... multigraincracker Sep 2025 #17
It was a tragic local story. Tommy Carcetti Sep 2025 #18
100% this obamanut2012 Sep 2025 #20
Exactly! H2O Man Sep 2025 #24
It has been, and is being exploited by racists obamanut2012 Sep 2025 #19
This is just the right's latest distraction/wedge issue - "Terri Schiavo" bullshit. It's disgusting what they are doing. themaguffin Sep 2025 #26
And it wasn't a hate crime, either Jilly_in_VA Sep 2025 #27
BS. He said Greg_In_SF Sep 2025 #31
When he said PCB66 Sep 2025 #33
This was news when it happened recently. It was Klarkashton Sep 2025 #28
The Only Time They Care About Ukrainian Refugees Deep State Witch Sep 2025 #30
Maybe I've Been Around Intelligence Too Long Deep State Witch Sep 2025 #29
A guest on CNN said that to cover this ChazII Sep 2025 #32
Republicans market test their outrages first before going mainstream with them unblock Sep 2025 #35
I doubt the killer had any interest in politics and wasn't a Democrat. Ping Tung Sep 2025 #37

hlthe2b

(113,957 posts)
2. It has been many times before her name was identified. A troll yesterday accused DU of
Wed Sep 10, 2025, 06:11 AM
Sep 2025

being among the DEMS responsible or ignoring this story. Why are you seemingly playing into it with this post? I'm surprised at you, no_hypoocrisy.

I have to go to work, so I don't have time to search out those stories, but I fully recall at least three. None identified her by name, as is typical early on in murder cases. (Ditto the assailant). She was merely identified as a Ukrainian woman.

no_hypocrisy

(54,906 posts)
5. Just wondering why they waited so long and why it's a national story.
Wed Sep 10, 2025, 06:29 AM
Sep 2025

I'd understand the local news vantage. But why now? Unfortunately, people are murdered every day in many places. I don't understand why this story has been elevated, other than the comparison to the Kitty Genovese angle where nobody came to her rescue.

hlthe2b

(113,957 posts)
6. Because Transportation Secretary is exploiting this by saying he will cease all funding to NC Metro
Wed Sep 10, 2025, 06:33 AM
Sep 2025

as a way to ingratiate himself with Trump and his supposed "war on crime..." RW exploitation at its worst. I assume Charlotte has a Democratic mayor (yes, apparently so).

The entire sad surveillance video was posted here as well. Horrific.

MichMan

(17,150 posts)
22. It is a national story because it was a horrific murder captured on video
Wed Sep 10, 2025, 09:59 AM
Sep 2025

Victim, who was a refugee from war torn Ukraine, was sitting quietly minding her own business when she was senselessly attacked.

underpants

(196,493 posts)
4. For the same reason I just flipped on Fox and they're still talking about Cracker Barrel
Wed Sep 10, 2025, 06:24 AM
Sep 2025

🙄

Teaser going into commercial “Terrorists killed in Qatar”

Mike Nelson

(10,943 posts)
7. Just guessing...
Wed Sep 10, 2025, 06:36 AM
Sep 2025

... this story didn't really "take off" in Conservative media until recently. It is now viral. First, the tape release. When did it become available? I'm not sure... but it needs those images... Also, the story doesn't really "fit the narrative" perfectly... the victim is the "Alien" and the killer is a US citizen. But, to them, she is pretty and looks like "us" while he looks "foreign" - so that works. It did not happen in Chicago, but it is a city subway setting and the story can still be part of "CRIME!" being promoted by "left wing lunatic" Dems, who "let the killer out" ... so, overall, I think it works for FOX and their ilk.

Brainfodder

(7,781 posts)
9. Guessing because there are a lot of murders NOT DISCUSSED much sadly EFD?
Wed Sep 10, 2025, 06:45 AM
Sep 2025

I only heard about that one Monday.
My take was now paid attention to because the video evidence released and she was pretty and a foreigner with an interesting story?

sop

(18,617 posts)
12. A young, pretty blonde woman was attacked by a deranged, homeless black man with an extensive criminal past.
Wed Sep 10, 2025, 07:39 AM
Sep 2025

The stabbing plays to all the usual rightwing stereotypes and fears, it allows Bondi to appear tough on crime and it helps Trump justify his crime crackdown on cities.

ms liberty

(11,237 posts)
13. It's a local crime story for the Charlotte NC area. One woman got killed on the light rail
Wed Sep 10, 2025, 07:46 AM
Sep 2025

By a guy also riding the light rail who was a low level criminal.

The real reason it's in the news with the Magats is because we have a rising star Democratic Governor Josh Stein, rising star Democratic Lt Governor Rachel Hunt (daughter of former Gov Jim Hunt), our Attorney General is rising Democratic star Jeff Jackson, and along with Democratic Superintendent of Schools Mo Green and (Democratic) Justice Allison Riggs ( after all the litigation of course)...
and all elected at the same time we allegedly voted for the Orange Monster at the top of the ballot.

Oh and Charlotte is one of the bluest areas of the state. People forget we're really purple, not red.

JI7

(93,615 posts)
15. She was a Ukrainian refugee and this wasn't a robbery turned violent type of thing
Wed Sep 10, 2025, 08:02 AM
Sep 2025

not sure what you mean by low level criminal but from what I have read he had many charges against him before this.

I think the horrific way this whole thing happened should make it national.

Why did the NYC case become nationalized.



ms liberty

(11,237 posts)
23. I live in the Charlotte media market, and this story is not new to me
Wed Sep 10, 2025, 10:09 AM
Sep 2025

He was riding the LR, she got on and sat in front of him and he suddenly jumped up and stabbed her. His arrest record includes robberies and assaults, but not a known murderer. The story has been in the news locally since it happened.

A single murder in a single city on a single day is not actually national news unless the murderer or victim is a prominent public figure. It's local or regional news. The idea that every crime everywhere should be nationally reported is an invention of the 24 hour news cycle.

This is a story because it plays into Orange Man's idioctic attempts to prove there's a crime wave particularly in blue run states; that's why it'sa national story now. .

JI7

(93,615 posts)
25. Her being a Ukrainian refugee would make it national
Wed Sep 10, 2025, 10:17 AM
Sep 2025

The right wing is exploiting it for sure but there are things which make it easy to do like the national attention on Daniel Penny case on the NYC Sub.

 

Quazie

(13 posts)
36. Bad bad
Wed Sep 10, 2025, 12:11 PM
Sep 2025

Calling someone who has a history of violently assaulting people a "low level criminal" is exactly the kind of bs that make Democrats look soft on crime. Guess what? People don't want "low level criminals" in their neighborhoods, riding their trains, or occupying the public spaces. People know it only takes one second for that person to become a "high level criminal" when their long history of BLATANT DISREGARD FOR HUMAN LIFE results in murder and those in charge suddenly say "Oops, I guess I should have denied bail."

JI7

(93,615 posts)
14. Becsuse of what happened in NY and many on the left
Wed Sep 10, 2025, 07:57 AM
Sep 2025

attacking that guy that took down the guy giving threats.

I keep saying democrsts need to be clear and openly tough on crime and immigration. It doesn't mean supporting the same shit as Republicans but one reason Bill Clinton , Obama, and Biden won are they were able to get out of the negative perception right wingers throw out towards democrsts.

It also doesn't help that anyone can now get online and say stupid shit and the right wing will take the most bizarre shit and spread it around as the position of Democrats.

And I think the response by the mayor was pretty weak .

JI7

(93,615 posts)
16. And saying it's just a local crime story doesn't work when you have all the Israeli Palestine
Wed Sep 10, 2025, 08:13 AM
Sep 2025

protests and focus on it at city councils.

multigraincracker

(37,651 posts)
17. American justice......
Wed Sep 10, 2025, 09:21 AM
Sep 2025

Spin the color wheel. If that doesn’t work, spin the emigrant wheel, and on and on.

Tommy Carcetti

(44,498 posts)
18. It was a tragic local story.
Wed Sep 10, 2025, 09:54 AM
Sep 2025

And it's now being exploited by people for purely racist motives by the same people who openly have said they don't care about other dead Ukrainians.

themaguffin

(5,220 posts)
26. This is just the right's latest distraction/wedge issue - "Terri Schiavo" bullshit. It's disgusting what they are doing.
Wed Sep 10, 2025, 10:22 AM
Sep 2025

Jilly_in_VA

(14,371 posts)
27. And it wasn't a hate crime, either
Wed Sep 10, 2025, 10:23 AM
Sep 2025

It was simply another tragic case of a mentally ill person (in this case a Black person) killing a person minding their own business (in this case, a pretty white Ukrainian woman who was a refugee). That's what makes it appealing to racists, the Black male/pretty white female angle. That's all. But that's why the Feds got involved.

PCB66

(118 posts)
33. When he said
Wed Sep 10, 2025, 11:28 AM
Sep 2025

"I got that White Girl" that made it a hate crime under any definition.

We need to be against hate crimes, no matter who does them.

Klarkashton

(5,292 posts)
28. This was news when it happened recently. It was
Wed Sep 10, 2025, 10:31 AM
Sep 2025

A horrific random murder. I ask what is the use of continuing to promote the story? Absolutely nothing is going to help the situation. The right wing "say her name" shit is clearly a weak ass mean spirited response to Black Lives Matter.

Deep State Witch

(12,715 posts)
30. The Only Time They Care About Ukrainian Refugees
Wed Sep 10, 2025, 10:34 AM
Sep 2025

Is when they can use them to further a talking point. They probably can't even pronounce her name, even spelled out phonetically.

Deep State Witch

(12,715 posts)
29. Maybe I've Been Around Intelligence Too Long
Wed Sep 10, 2025, 10:33 AM
Sep 2025

But whenever I hear "Ukrainian Refugee Killed" my mind immediately goes to the FSB. I know that they caught the guy that killed her, but I'm wondering if there's more to the story. That's why the RW is pushing it so hard.

ChazII

(6,448 posts)
32. A guest on CNN said that to cover this
Wed Sep 10, 2025, 11:22 AM
Sep 2025

story is racist. The guest was a black woman and I did not get her name.

unblock

(56,198 posts)
35. Republicans market test their outrages first before going mainstream with them
Wed Sep 10, 2025, 11:54 AM
Sep 2025

The right-wing podcasts and social media run wild with all sorts of crazy stories, some based loosely on truth or current events, others not.

The stories that get the most likes and "have legs" are the ones major politicos and the national media pick up on.

There's a time lag involved, they usually only run with stories they're sure play well for them.

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