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Nevilledog

(55,131 posts)
Wed Sep 10, 2025, 02:49 PM Sep 2025

Charlie Kirk shot at Utah event (edited to update suspect is not in custody)

Last edited Wed Sep 10, 2025, 09:15 PM - Edit history (1)

https://www.deseret.com/utah/2025/09/10/charlie-kirk-shot/

This is a breaking news story and will be updated.

Charlie Kirk was shot at an event at Utah Valley University in Orem, Utah on Wednesday.

Bystanders report seeing Kirk shot near his neck during a Q&A with students.

A suspect is in custody, according to a UVU alert sent to students. The campus is on lockdown.
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Charlie Kirk shot at Utah event (edited to update suspect is not in custody) (Original Post) Nevilledog Sep 2025 OP
Geez newdeal2 Sep 2025 #1
Video (graphic): demmiblue Sep 2025 #2
2 shots? Looks like he had some decorticate posturing after the hit. Maru Kitteh Sep 2025 #16
Decorticate is survivable Warpy Sep 2025 #100
Yeah, you are correct but he's dead. Maru Kitteh Sep 2025 #104
Well, that sucks Warpy Sep 2025 #111
Thats not good. Srkdqltr Sep 2025 #3
I hope the weapons's okay and every uses the correct nomenclature for it Torchlight Sep 2025 #4
Another staged attempt like tRump? ( no pun intended). nt ImNotGod Sep 2025 #5
I am worried about that too newdeal2 Sep 2025 #7
Take a look at the video above if you have any doubts. Detest the MFer, but this gets us nowhere. Silent Type Sep 2025 #9
To be frank I don't give a rats ass about him or his cult idiots, they reap what they sow. nt ImNotGod Sep 2025 #10
Sounds a little too MAGA to me, but carry on. Silent Type Sep 2025 #21
Guns get the red out Sep 2025 #34
I'd be fine bashing guns and those that need them. That is not what is happening here. Silent Type Sep 2025 #44
I'm not feeling too much sympathy either. Polly Hennessey Sep 2025 #64
My opinion angrychair Sep 2025 #95
Oh, I will carry on and anyone that doesn't like my posts can put me on ignore as I do with them. nt ImNotGod Sep 2025 #114
He said everybody else who has been murdered with guns is worth it. still-prayin4rain Sep 2025 #67
How do you feel NOW, Charlie? calimary Sep 2025 #92
I don't ForgedCrank Sep 2025 #108
Distraction from the Predator Files Sequoia Sep 2025 #52
Please let it go Hieronymus Phact Sep 2025 #99
if anyone doesn't like what I post they can put me on ignore, like I do to them. Have a nice day. nt ImNotGod Sep 2025 #115
the point is spreading conspiraciy theories is unhealthy and degrades the forum. Hieronymus Phact Sep 2025 #120
Wouldn't put it past him uponit7771 Sep 2025 #101
No. Cha Sep 2025 #112
If not I blame bigballs. nt ImNotGod Sep 2025 #116
Absolutely awful Daveigh Sep 2025 #6
I do not support violence sarisataka Sep 2025 #8
Ew...Katy Tur weighed in senseandsensibility Sep 2025 #11
If he was a proper *man*, husband and father, gifted with family, sprinkleeninow Sep 2025 #106
Expect violent Greg_In_SF Sep 2025 #12
What do you mean by "us"...? SouthernCal_Dem Sep 2025 #15
If you can't understand Greg_In_SF Sep 2025 #31
I agree. Dems bear no responsibility senseandsensibility Sep 2025 #36
Fact is it's quite possibly someone who disagrees with Kirk's of demanding the Epstein files release herding cats Sep 2025 #35
Exactly senseandsensibility Sep 2025 #46
His Epstein files stance was two-fold. herding cats Sep 2025 #51
All the conservatives at work are already saying it's Democrats. haele Sep 2025 #59
Alleged shooter is an older white guy superpatriotman Sep 2025 #75
This just makes him a martyr and a badhair77 Sep 2025 #13
In Trump America, none of us are safe Johonny Sep 2025 #14
Agreed. The world has gone mad Daveigh Sep 2025 #17
Regardless of my feelings on Kirk, this isn't okay EdmondDantes_ Sep 2025 #18
MN tintinvotes Sep 2025 #19
This message was self-deleted by its author MichMan Sep 2025 #39
Charlie Kirk's response to mass shootings was to say that gun deaths were RockRaven Sep 2025 #20
Quite ironic then if he were to end up making a contribution to the cause. Xavier Breath Sep 2025 #23
Yeah, kinda like he took one for the team. StarryNite Sep 2025 #68
The real irony will be if trump starts confiscating guns.. Volaris Sep 2025 #110
That simple n/t malaise Sep 2025 #33
Alrighty then UpInArms Sep 2025 #73
Charlie Kirk: It's worth the cost of, unfortunately, some gun deaths every year so that we can have the 2nd Amendment Celerity Sep 2025 #22
excellent. he got his wish. Maru Kitteh Sep 2025 #24
You first, Charlie. Vinca Sep 2025 #37
That made me LOL! Sogo Sep 2025 #69
He a liar whose lies have killed people Johnny2X2X Sep 2025 #25
In his world it's ok when the victims are school children malaise Sep 2025 #40
Awful DET Sep 2025 #26
Farts and Beers edhopper Sep 2025 #27
Oh well thoughts and prayers Fullduplexxx Sep 2025 #28
Shooting people, even awful people, is never a good thing. Ocelot II Sep 2025 #29
The thing is, when you base your entire life around sowing hate and division in the world... Initech Sep 2025 #48
That's too bad. BlueTsunami2018 Sep 2025 #30
Nice! You have a pizza oven? Do you make everything from scratch? fujiyamasan Sep 2025 #56
I have a pizza stone for my Weber grill. BlueTsunami2018 Sep 2025 #91
Great been wanting to do the same! fujiyamasan Sep 2025 #96
The one who said gun deaths were worth it so we could have a Second Amendment? EnergizedLib Sep 2025 #32
Kirk coined "your body my choice" BlueWaveNeverEnd Sep 2025 #54
Shooter had white fatigue LoveSucky Sep 2025 #38
i will be curious as the coming days unfold... Takket Sep 2025 #41
Horrible. At the end of the day we have free speech Melon Sep 2025 #42
suspect is "an older man" -- I wonder what that means mainer Sep 2025 #43
There is a video on X of the alleged shooter newdeal2 Sep 2025 #45
I just saw the video. A Larry David- looking guy. mainer Sep 2025 #49
With the mountain of lies Kirk has said through the years perhaps something happened FloridaBlues Sep 2025 #85
Guess it means he's not the typical gun-humping incel. Silent Type Sep 2025 #47
Well, like you said Charles. bluestarone Sep 2025 #50
just saw video of the seconds before and after; absolutely horrific eShirl Sep 2025 #53
It's the guns blogslug Sep 2025 #55
saw the video on X, very graphic, the immediate amount of blood loss looked like it's terminal Shellback Squid Sep 2025 #57
That is not what he said. n/t malaise Sep 2025 #82
I don't think you meant this for me Shellback Squid Sep 2025 #84
Extreme graphic clip. He was gushing blood IcyPeas Sep 2025 #58
OMG! demmiblue Sep 2025 #61
Plus 1!! BlueWaveNeverEnd Sep 2025 #63
That's awful Johnny2X2X Sep 2025 #62
He was still alive when medical attn got to him BlueWaveNeverEnd Sep 2025 #66
Reminds me of a hickey goalie in the 80s Johnny2X2X Sep 2025 #70
It wasn't the towel that saved him. WhiskeyGrinder Sep 2025 #117
Hand pressure works too. Might even be better than a towel. A tshirt will sub for a towel too. . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Sep 2025 #77
Oh JESUS. He's GONE. Maru Kitteh Sep 2025 #65
I loathe the guy, but this is sickening. edbermac Sep 2025 #71
We are going to have to face off with these MAGA nutjobs sooner or later anyway. hadEnuf Sep 2025 #107
Oh my. Abolishinist Sep 2025 #76
I'm seeing report say blood is AI. I haven't looked and I'm not going to. I'll let written postings sort it out. . nt Bernardo de La Paz Sep 2025 #79
This message was self-deleted by its author Mosby Sep 2025 #88
First the shooting in Minnesota and now this. totodeinhere Sep 2025 #60
Wonder who the shooter is. You all know the "libtards" will be blamed. Vinca Sep 2025 #72
Post removed Post removed Sep 2025 #74
Blaming it on the "Radical Left" Deep State Witch Sep 2025 #78
Elon Musk is already blaming the left yliza Sep 2025 #93
Says the Man Deep State Witch Sep 2025 #94
The man himself said Jilly_in_VA Sep 2025 #80
I don't condone the shooting indusurb Sep 2025 #81
It's about time the National Guard was called to Orem, and such other violent, red cities and campuses.... Sogo Sep 2025 #83
Thoughts and prayers mzmolly Sep 2025 #86
Difficult to tell if it was the carotid or jugular or both. markodochartaigh Sep 2025 #87
Time to invade Utah bucolic_frolic Sep 2025 #89
Well... purr-rat beauty Sep 2025 #90
He Died mokeyz Sep 2025 #97
He's in a better place now. Abolishinist Sep 2025 #98
The shooter has ruined his life for that bastard. Klarkashton Sep 2025 #102
I'd like to offer thoughts and prayers. OrlandoDem2 Sep 2025 #103
Turns out the shooter is not in custody Hassler Sep 2025 #105
Latest reports say Kirk is dead pfitz59 Sep 2025 #109
Please update your headline. Not ID'd, nor arrested, nor has the weapon been recovered. SunSeeker Sep 2025 #113
I updated. I was the first to post this event and that was the info at the time. Nevilledog Sep 2025 #118
I'm having a senior moment. Who is Charlie Kirk and why should I care if he's dead? mucholderthandirt Sep 2025 #119
This message was self-deleted by its author fujiyamasan Sep 2025 #121

demmiblue

(39,939 posts)
2. Video (graphic):
Wed Sep 10, 2025, 02:53 PM
Sep 2025

BREAKING

There are reports that there has been a shooting at a Charlie Kirk/Turning Point USA event in Utah.

It appears that Kirk may have been shot in the neck.

Yashar Ali 🐘 (@yasharali.bsky.social) 2025-09-10T18:46:26.088Z

Maru Kitteh

(31,992 posts)
16. 2 shots? Looks like he had some decorticate posturing after the hit.
Wed Sep 10, 2025, 03:06 PM
Sep 2025

Bye Charles.

To be clear: Violence is bad. Republicans and misgynist white nationalist Christians should stop fomenting it. Also, he was surrounded by ‘good’ white MEN with guns. Huh. How ‘bout that?

Warpy

(114,656 posts)
100. Decorticate is survivable
Wed Sep 10, 2025, 05:17 PM
Sep 2025

although he's going to have a long recovery ahead of him

Decerebrate is the one you don't want to see, although I've seen people who came in posturing recoverr from that, also.

It depends on how fast emergency care was given.

I never had much use for Kirk, he's like Jordan Peterson and a few others, all complaints and finger pointing, no solutions, no compassion. His following came from alienated people who hadn't learned to get off their diffs an do something about things they didn't like.

I take no pleasure in his FAFO about guns. If debate is going to be reduced to shooting an opponent, I"m glad I'm old and my time is limited.

Maru Kitteh

(31,992 posts)
104. Yeah, you are correct but he's dead.
Wed Sep 10, 2025, 05:20 PM
Sep 2025

I saw a second video much closer and it was clearly not survivable.

Torchlight

(7,037 posts)
4. I hope the weapons's okay and every uses the correct nomenclature for it
Wed Sep 10, 2025, 02:55 PM
Sep 2025

Oh, and thought and prayers too, Mr. kirk. I hope your Prove Me Wrong tour gets better!


(yeah... sarcasm from top top bottom)

newdeal2

(5,593 posts)
7. I am worried about that too
Wed Sep 10, 2025, 02:58 PM
Sep 2025

Also proves that a good guy with a gun can’t stop everyone.

 

Silent Type

(12,412 posts)
9. Take a look at the video above if you have any doubts. Detest the MFer, but this gets us nowhere.
Wed Sep 10, 2025, 03:00 PM
Sep 2025

ImNotGod

(1,208 posts)
10. To be frank I don't give a rats ass about him or his cult idiots, they reap what they sow. nt
Wed Sep 10, 2025, 03:02 PM
Sep 2025

get the red out

(14,068 posts)
34. Guns
Wed Sep 10, 2025, 03:22 PM
Sep 2025

We can't talk about the the fact that the right won't address the gun issue in the country, though even they can suffer because of it too?

Polly Hennessey

(8,961 posts)
64. I'm not feeling too much sympathy either.
Wed Sep 10, 2025, 03:43 PM
Sep 2025

Charlie Kirk spews lies like a swarm of flies. I do, however, hope he recovers without too much after damage. The world we live in , oh my.

angrychair

(12,496 posts)
95. My opinion
Wed Sep 10, 2025, 04:37 PM
Sep 2025

Is that violence only begats violence.
Kirk has done his fair share of promoting hate and violence against others. I have zero doubt that his constant rhetoric against marginalized people is responsible for the deaths of innocent people. Therefore, I do not take any pleasure in this horrible incident, I am just not surprised by it.

ImNotGod

(1,208 posts)
114. Oh, I will carry on and anyone that doesn't like my posts can put me on ignore as I do with them. nt
Wed Sep 10, 2025, 06:09 PM
Sep 2025

still-prayin4rain

(525 posts)
67. He said everybody else who has been murdered with guns is worth it.
Wed Sep 10, 2025, 03:45 PM
Sep 2025
https://www.newsweek.com/charlie-kirk-says-gun-deaths-worth-it-2nd-amendment-1793113

"I think it's worth to have a cost of, unfortunately, some gun deaths every single year so that we can have the Second Amendment to protect our other God-given rights. That is a prudent deal. It is rational. Nobody talks like this. They live in a complete alternate universe."

calimary

(90,741 posts)
92. How do you feel NOW, Charlie?
Wed Sep 10, 2025, 04:34 PM
Sep 2025

That “God-given right” almost sent YOU to the undertaker. Still feel the same now?

ForgedCrank

(3,120 posts)
108. I don't
Wed Sep 10, 2025, 05:43 PM
Sep 2025

think people quite understand just how far this is going to set us back.
The majority of people here are mocking a guy who was assassinated. The entire country can see this gruesome video and it is not going to end well for us, especially when the words written in places like this are read by outsiders. The look is disgusting, and that is a seriously sized understatement.

Hieronymus Phact

(751 posts)
99. Please let it go
Wed Sep 10, 2025, 05:09 PM
Sep 2025

Nobody 'staged' a shot at trump, intending to miss so closely that it grazed him but killed someone behind him, just to make a publicity stunt.
Not credible.

Please leave the conspiracies to the Q nutters.

ImNotGod

(1,208 posts)
115. if anyone doesn't like what I post they can put me on ignore, like I do to them. Have a nice day. nt
Wed Sep 10, 2025, 06:11 PM
Sep 2025

Hieronymus Phact

(751 posts)
120. the point is spreading conspiraciy theories is unhealthy and degrades the forum.
Thu Sep 11, 2025, 01:01 AM
Sep 2025

it's not all about you.

Daveigh

(62 posts)
6. Absolutely awful
Wed Sep 10, 2025, 02:58 PM
Sep 2025

My thoughts are with everyone—Utah Valley University students/witnesses certainly included.

senseandsensibility

(25,497 posts)
11. Ew...Katy Tur weighed in
Wed Sep 10, 2025, 03:02 PM
Sep 2025

and said he was the only young politician that was really connecting with young people and then corrected herself that he wasn't a politician, but she is so tone deaf to my ears anyway. She comes across a gushing in the weirdest situations.

sprinkleeninow

(22,467 posts)
106. If he was a proper *man*, husband and father, gifted with family,
Wed Sep 10, 2025, 05:34 PM
Sep 2025
he shouldn't have put himself in such a position to receive what just befell him.

senseandsensibility

(25,497 posts)
36. I agree. Dems bear no responsibility
Wed Sep 10, 2025, 03:23 PM
Sep 2025

for this. We also don't know what the "motive" was here. Very easily could be warring factions of maga culminating in violence. There's a lot of conflict between them lately. All Dems will and should condemn the violence but it is in no way their fault.

herding cats

(20,056 posts)
35. Fact is it's quite possibly someone who disagrees with Kirk's of demanding the Epstein files release
Wed Sep 10, 2025, 03:22 PM
Sep 2025

The GOP is truly that fractured at the moment.

senseandsensibility

(25,497 posts)
46. Exactly
Wed Sep 10, 2025, 03:30 PM
Sep 2025

That's what I thought too, but I wasn't sure that was his position since I don't follow these RW "influencers" closely.

herding cats

(20,056 posts)
51. His Epstein files stance was two-fold.
Wed Sep 10, 2025, 03:34 PM
Sep 2025

First he was all in in changing the subject and moving on. Then he got a lot of backlash from his MAGA supporters, especially the youth, and flipped back to released the files.

So, I definitely seems it could be an angry follower.

superpatriotman

(6,882 posts)
75. Alleged shooter is an older white guy
Wed Sep 10, 2025, 03:53 PM
Sep 2025

So. I suppose they could be any, all, some or none of those groups.


badhair77

(5,208 posts)
13. This just makes him a martyr and a
Wed Sep 10, 2025, 03:04 PM
Sep 2025

hero. The cult will love him even more, like when trump was the victim. This doesn’t help our side. Damn.

Johonny

(26,577 posts)
14. In Trump America, none of us are safe
Wed Sep 10, 2025, 03:04 PM
Sep 2025

And no fucking way is this good. What a fucking shit show this country has become.

Daveigh

(62 posts)
17. Agreed. The world has gone mad
Wed Sep 10, 2025, 03:06 PM
Sep 2025

Coming on the heels of news of the NC knife attack … it’s all deeply disturbing. Take care of each other, friends.

EdmondDantes_

(2,053 posts)
18. Regardless of my feelings on Kirk, this isn't okay
Wed Sep 10, 2025, 03:07 PM
Sep 2025

Not just because it will likely play up a sense of victimhood among conservatives, but this sort of violence itself is bad. Kirk is allowed to say whatever hurtful stupid things he wants without someone trying to kill him.

tintinvotes

(147 posts)
19. MN
Wed Sep 10, 2025, 03:09 PM
Sep 2025

I think Tim Walz should come out and say he and MN know exactly how this feels and the political rhetoric from the Pres and Republicans needs to be toned down. Declaring war on Chicago and the rest of the Democratic cities They brought this violence on, I'm not surprised they are reaping what they sow.

Response to tintinvotes (Reply #19)

RockRaven

(19,738 posts)
20. Charlie Kirk's response to mass shootings was to say that gun deaths were
Wed Sep 10, 2025, 03:11 PM
Sep 2025

worth it to have/keep the 2nd Am.

"You will never live in a society when you have an armed citizenry and you won't have a single gun death," Kirk said at a Turning Point USA Faith event on Wednesday, as reported by Media Matters for America. "That is nonsense. It's drivel. But I am—I think it's worth it.

"I think it's worth to have a cost of, unfortunately, some gun deaths every single year so that we can have the Second Amendment to protect our other God-given rights. That is a prudent deal. It is rational. Nobody talks like this. They live in a complete alternate universe."


https://www.newsweek.com/charlie-kirk-says-gun-deaths-worth-it-2nd-amendment-1793113

Sowing, reaping, etc.

Volaris

(11,793 posts)
110. The real irony will be if trump starts confiscating guns..
Wed Sep 10, 2025, 05:47 PM
Sep 2025

They HAD ALL the guns, AND the 2nd amendment, and didn't do shit with EITHER when the dictator ended up being one of them.

Gun control via legislation is not tyranny it's the democratic process WORKING, and yes that means someone's gonna get out voted.

If the death of ONE of their own is what FINALLY gets this done, then so be it.

Also, there WILL be blowback. If the shooter was one ioata to the left of Hitler, trumps gonna use this to further putting armed troops in our cities cause librul crimz.

ALSO Also, dems UNIVERSAL RESPONSE to this needs to be 'well guys, do you want thoughts and prayers or do you want to fix the problem...which would you prefer, go ahead YOU TELL US.'

Johnny2X2X

(24,429 posts)
25. He a liar whose lies have killed people
Wed Sep 10, 2025, 03:16 PM
Sep 2025

Political violence is wrong though and it's what Trump wants, if this was that.

DET

(2,599 posts)
26. Awful
Wed Sep 10, 2025, 03:16 PM
Sep 2025

The only one I have sympathy for is his daughter, who was apparently at the event. No child should have to see that, no matter how awful the parent.

Ocelot II

(131,199 posts)
29. Shooting people, even awful people, is never a good thing.
Wed Sep 10, 2025, 03:19 PM
Sep 2025

That said - live by the sword, die by the sword. Charlie is on record as saying a few gun deaths are worth it to preserve the "freedom" of the Second Amendment. Ya think your own ass is worth it, Charlie?

Initech

(109,250 posts)
48. The thing is, when you base your entire life around sowing hate and division in the world...
Wed Sep 10, 2025, 03:31 PM
Sep 2025

And attaching yourself to one of the absolute worst human beings alive (Donald Trump), you can definitely expect to attract some of the worst people alive to your cause.

BlueTsunami2018

(5,072 posts)
91. I have a pizza stone for my Weber grill.
Wed Sep 10, 2025, 04:25 PM
Sep 2025

My wife makes the dough, I make the sauce. I am using store bought mozzarella though. Didn’t have time to make that. The basil is grown in my backyard.

So good.

fujiyamasan

(2,011 posts)
96. Great been wanting to do the same!
Wed Sep 10, 2025, 04:40 PM
Sep 2025

I have a Weber that’s out of commission. Need to get it fixed.

EnergizedLib

(3,137 posts)
32. The one who said gun deaths were worth it so we could have a Second Amendment?
Wed Sep 10, 2025, 03:21 PM
Sep 2025

Karma.

Remember, before you feel bad about someone shooting Charlie Kirk, Charlie Kirk wouldn’t care if it was you. If you were the one trump shot on Fifth Avenue, Charlie Kirk would defend trump.

Takket

(23,797 posts)
41. i will be curious as the coming days unfold...
Wed Sep 10, 2025, 03:25 PM
Sep 2025

to see how the coverage of this compares to the assassination of the Minnesota Democrats that was out of the news cycle just a few days after it happened.

Melon

(1,672 posts)
42. Horrible. At the end of the day we have free speech
Wed Sep 10, 2025, 03:26 PM
Sep 2025

Nobody deserves to die for advocating their position, whether we agree or not. This will only ad fuel to the fire and ultimately strengthen Kirk’s message and force it to be heard by more.

mainer

(12,579 posts)
43. suspect is "an older man" -- I wonder what that means
Wed Sep 10, 2025, 03:26 PM
Sep 2025

With such a huge crowd, I'm surprised they caught the guy.

newdeal2

(5,593 posts)
45. There is a video on X of the alleged shooter
Wed Sep 10, 2025, 03:28 PM
Sep 2025

He is being handcuffed on the ground. Old white male with glasses and balding. Doesn’t fit their usual narrative but I’ll be curious to hear more.

FloridaBlues

(4,683 posts)
85. With the mountain of lies Kirk has said through the years perhaps something happened
Wed Sep 10, 2025, 04:04 PM
Sep 2025

To a family member of the shooter because of Kirk’s words. Never know what motivates someone to go and take revenge.

Shellback Squid

(10,145 posts)
57. saw the video on X, very graphic, the immediate amount of blood loss looked like it's terminal
Wed Sep 10, 2025, 03:38 PM
Sep 2025

blood was gushing from the left side of his neck, it almost looked fake, no one deserves this

Johnny2X2X

(24,429 posts)
62. That's awful
Wed Sep 10, 2025, 03:42 PM
Sep 2025

He could still survive if someone with a towel was there a few seconds after this. But it's going to be a huge loss of blood unless he got medical attention almost immediately.

Johnny2X2X

(24,429 posts)
70. Reminds me of a hickey goalie in the 80s
Wed Sep 10, 2025, 03:47 PM
Sep 2025

Clint Malarchuk who caught an errant skate to the jugular. Blood sprayed out onto the ice 10 feet as he collapsed, but a trainer was there with a towel immediately and he recovered.

WhiskeyGrinder

(27,227 posts)
117. It wasn't the towel that saved him.
Wed Sep 10, 2025, 06:19 PM
Sep 2025

It was Pizzutelli reaching into the wound and pinching the artery while kneeing on Malarchuk's shoulder blade to slow his heart and induce semi-consciousness.

Bernardo de La Paz

(60,320 posts)
77. Hand pressure works too. Might even be better than a towel. A tshirt will sub for a towel too. . . nt
Wed Sep 10, 2025, 03:54 PM
Sep 2025

edbermac

(16,485 posts)
71. I loathe the guy, but this is sickening.
Wed Sep 10, 2025, 03:49 PM
Sep 2025

I don’t pray, but I hope he survives. And if he dies, I just know every MAGA nut job is going to declare open season on people they don’t like.

hadEnuf

(3,657 posts)
107. We are going to have to face off with these MAGA nutjobs sooner or later anyway.
Wed Sep 10, 2025, 05:35 PM
Sep 2025

Open season works both ways.

Bernardo de La Paz

(60,320 posts)
79. I'm seeing report say blood is AI. I haven't looked and I'm not going to. I'll let written postings sort it out. . nt
Wed Sep 10, 2025, 03:58 PM
Sep 2025

Response to IcyPeas (Reply #58)

totodeinhere

(13,688 posts)
60. First the shooting in Minnesota and now this.
Wed Sep 10, 2025, 03:41 PM
Sep 2025

Last edited Wed Sep 10, 2025, 07:22 PM - Edit history (1)

Political violence in this country has got to stop.

Response to Nevilledog (Original post)

Jilly_in_VA

(14,624 posts)
80. The man himself said
Wed Sep 10, 2025, 03:59 PM
Sep 2025

“I think it's worth to have a cost of, unfortunately, some gun deaths every single year so that we can have the Second Amendment to protect our other God-given rights. That is a prudent deal. It is rational."

I guess it came back to bite him in the neck.

That's called karma.

I am neither rejoicing nor pointing fingers. It is merely an observation.

indusurb

(343 posts)
81. I don't condone the shooting
Wed Sep 10, 2025, 04:00 PM
Sep 2025

But frankly, in this time and place, it is to be expected. As are many more. We're living in a behavioral sink, with an extra large helping of guns thrown in for good measure.

Sogo

(7,300 posts)
83. It's about time the National Guard was called to Orem, and such other violent, red cities and campuses....
Wed Sep 10, 2025, 04:02 PM
Sep 2025

nt.

markodochartaigh

(5,545 posts)
87. Difficult to tell if it was the carotid or jugular or both.
Wed Sep 10, 2025, 04:08 PM
Sep 2025

The corporation that I was working for very briefly tried to use surgical glue as an alternative to staples/sutures for carotid endarterectomies. It lead to really horrifying scenes when the glue failed.

Edit: The only way that I would like Charlie Kirk less is if he was a martyr.

purr-rat beauty

(1,419 posts)
90. Well...
Wed Sep 10, 2025, 04:25 PM
Sep 2025

Gun violence does not solve shit no matter who is pulling the trigger. This is not acceptable and should not be how political discourse is handled. It appears sadly, that Kirk did not have much concern for the lives of children lost from guns though. I do not wish this upon anyone but it was his belief that gun deaths are unfortunately necessary in the preservation of our God Given Rights. Irony is dead.

pfitz59

(12,909 posts)
109. Latest reports say Kirk is dead
Wed Sep 10, 2025, 05:45 PM
Sep 2025

and suspect not in custody. I expect this to dominate the news.

mucholderthandirt

(1,791 posts)
119. I'm having a senior moment. Who is Charlie Kirk and why should I care if he's dead?
Wed Sep 10, 2025, 09:23 PM
Sep 2025

LOL

This thread was too long to read. My brain won't handle it. I won't even see this post and any replies, so don't feel bad. I'm just being a shit asking like this, because I hate MAGA.

Response to mucholderthandirt (Reply #119)

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