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Prayers for Charlie Kirk (Original Post) mr715 Sep 2025 OP
Someone chose a Second Amendment solution. Aristus Sep 2025 #1
Better still, it's what he actually said he wanted. Some folks would Maru Kitteh Sep 2025 #15
Praying for an outcome that doesn't make him some sort of warped JFK for his generation Iris Sep 2025 #2
He already is. The Youtube sphere's already flooding it. Hellbound Hellhound Sep 2025 #5
Remember Gabby Giffords nt mr715 Sep 2025 #13
Aye, but the liberal values of free speech allow him to do so. Hellbound Hellhound Sep 2025 #19
It is always dangerous to raise martyrs mr715 Sep 2025 #20
I don't know about that... Hellbound Hellhound Sep 2025 #21
Yeah, well I think THEY started it AZJonnie Sep 2025 #22
When you spew that level of hate one cannot think some isn't coming back at you. NoMoreRepugs Sep 2025 #3
Tots and pears ZDU Sep 2025 #4
Live by the sword, die by the sword. Irish_Dem Sep 2025 #6
Thy reaps what thy sows. nt ImNotGod Sep 2025 #7
I remember Traildogbob Sep 2025 #8
Pass the biscuits please. QueerDuck Sep 2025 #9
Hey! I just remembered. Maru Kitteh Sep 2025 #17
I saw the video. James48 Sep 2025 #10
Thanks for the update. QueerDuck Sep 2025 #11
200 yards? Renew Deal Sep 2025 #23
Highly trained marksman Stuckinthebush Sep 2025 #24
I wish his innocent children well in this difficult time. I don't care one iota about their father. LonePirate Sep 2025 #12
No need for either. It is an event/outcome he chose/desired. RockRaven Sep 2025 #14
Oh my. mr715 Sep 2025 #18
Oh well Keepthesoulalive Sep 2025 #16

Maru Kitteh

(32,010 posts)
15. Better still, it's what he actually said he wanted. Some folks would
Wed Sep 10, 2025, 03:35 PM
Sep 2025

have to die, you know, for the “greater good” of the second amendment. He’s got his wish, I’m about 90% sure of it. The video shows decorticate posturing.

Iris

(16,890 posts)
2. Praying for an outcome that doesn't make him some sort of warped JFK for his generation
Wed Sep 10, 2025, 03:27 PM
Sep 2025
5. He already is. The Youtube sphere's already flooding it.
Wed Sep 10, 2025, 03:30 PM
Sep 2025

"Leftists start civil war" "Dems kill political activist".

Say what you will about the man, he had millions of followers, and someone just (probably) whacked him in broad daylight. Now his viewership will multiply to tens or hundreds of millions, and guess who's seen to blame?

Democrats.

It may not be right, and I think that the shooter's a rightie personally, but the swing is already in motion.

mr715

(4,169 posts)
13. Remember Gabby Giffords nt
Wed Sep 10, 2025, 03:34 PM
Sep 2025

Remember Sandy Hook.

etc. ad nauseum.

Democratic vision and policy would have protected that piece of shit from getting shot. All while he sat that on a university campus using the liberal values of free speech to spew his poison.

I think it is ironic that a bullet hit him in right in the voice.

19. Aye, but the liberal values of free speech allow him to do so.
Wed Sep 10, 2025, 03:37 PM
Sep 2025

By shooting him dead, someone just gave the right EVERY excuse to start shooting; a right winger was executed publically, broadcasted live, while speaking freely and giving others the opportunity to do the same. No matter how WRONG his views are, we've lost any and all moral high ground. He's already a martyr.

mr715

(4,169 posts)
20. It is always dangerous to raise martyrs
Wed Sep 10, 2025, 03:43 PM
Sep 2025

But to be fair, the right has had a monopoly on firing the proverbial 1st shot. Pun sincerely and insensitively intended. I feel a little dirty about it, but I have trouble feeling bad.

21. I don't know about that...
Wed Sep 10, 2025, 03:47 PM
Sep 2025

Even when Trumps "Assassination attempt" was a thing, there wasn't this level of mobilization on the right's social media... I don't know, man. Someone just legitimized trying to or actively killing someone because you disagree with their ideas. That's NOT a good thing, no matter who's doing it.

I haven't felt a chill like this since 9/11... I really hope my gut feeling is wrong but I DO NOT like this at all.

AZJonnie

(4,035 posts)
22. Yeah, well I think THEY started it
Wed Sep 10, 2025, 03:53 PM
Sep 2025

"The suspect in the shootings involving the families of Minnesota congresspeople is Vance Boelter, age 57. He is accused of killing Democratic Minnesota state Representative Melissa Hortman and her husband, Mark, and of shooting and wounding Democratic state Senator John Hoffman and his wife, Yvette, in their homes in June 2025. Boelter was captured after a two-day manhunt and faces federal and state charges, including murder and attempted murder. Authorities discovered a list of additional political targets, mostly Democrats, in his possession."

Also, I don't think Kirk's viewership will be going up.

Traildogbob

(13,163 posts)
8. I remember
Wed Sep 10, 2025, 03:32 PM
Sep 2025

Him at a college ranting and a supporter and MAGA student shouted to him mid speech, When does the shooting start”, referencing their dream of civil war.
Well……..guess it started. FAFO.
Thoughts and prayers. The cost of freedom hits us all.

James48

(5,255 posts)
10. I saw the video.
Wed Sep 10, 2025, 03:32 PM
Sep 2025

It was a clean neck shot from about 200 yards. Right in and through the artery. There is no way he is surviving that shot.

LonePirate

(14,379 posts)
12. I wish his innocent children well in this difficult time. I don't care one iota about their father.
Wed Sep 10, 2025, 03:33 PM
Sep 2025

RockRaven

(19,755 posts)
14. No need for either. It is an event/outcome he chose/desired.
Wed Sep 10, 2025, 03:35 PM
Sep 2025
"You will never live in a society when you have an armed citizenry and you won't have a single gun death," Kirk said at a Turning Point USA Faith event on Wednesday, as reported by Media Matters for America. "That is nonsense. It's drivel. But I am—I think it's worth it.

"I think it's worth to have a cost of, unfortunately, some gun deaths every single year so that we can have the Second Amendment to protect our other God-given rights. That is a prudent deal. It is rational. Nobody talks like this. They live in a complete alternate universe."

mr715

(4,169 posts)
18. Oh my.
Wed Sep 10, 2025, 03:37 PM
Sep 2025

Oh dear. Oh heavens above.

Gosh golly gee.

Finally, a school shooting right wingers will howl about.

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