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Oh well leopards need to eat too. FAFO. (Original Post) Botany Sep 2025 OP
Holy Shit n/t leftstreet Sep 2025 #1
Of course he meant OTHER people's deaths. Especially children. Irish_Dem Sep 2025 #2
No one is safe when stochastic terrorism is let loose Farmer-Rick Sep 2025 #58
If only they read some history... yardwork Sep 2025 #63
My first thought....Trump did this to take the Epstein heat off of him mtngirl47 Sep 2025 #76
Maybe sales of trump merch are down and Turning Point sales were going up? Attilatheblond Sep 2025 #81
Every time a stupid MAGA motherfucker opens their stupid fucking mouths, stupid shit tumbles and falls the fuck out. SoFlaBro Sep 2025 #3
And when it falls the f**k out... Montauk6 Sep 2025 #9
Fuck! Never saw this Traildogbob Sep 2025 #4
That's all his incel base thinks about wolfie001 Sep 2025 #45
Charlie Kirk would be an acceptable casualty Martin Eden Sep 2025 #5
He just got shot. Did he die? calimary Sep 2025 #6
well, I would recommend *not* watching the video where he is shot. MissB Sep 2025 #7
In all fairness popsdenver Sep 2025 #12
Assuming he has a spine. nt Exp Sep 2025 #17
His posturing indicated decorticate brain damage and yes the quantity Maru Kitteh Sep 2025 #64
No PatSeg Sep 2025 #8
Sometimes that actually does happen when the victim survives. calimary Sep 2025 #10
Now they're reporting that Kirk has died PatSeg Sep 2025 #34
I saw the video. James48 Sep 2025 #11
just announced on msnbc he's alive 4:29 p.m. NJCher Sep 2025 #13
So, first the bad news, then the good news? Exp Sep 2025 #20
Now the NYT and Washington Post are reporting PatSeg Sep 2025 #36
Again, I saw the video. James48 Sep 2025 #49
Absofuckinglutely..... democratsruletheday Sep 2025 #75
That's what I'm reading, that he's dead yliza Sep 2025 #21
Age 31 - holy cow... calimary Sep 2025 #24
Same here PatSeg Sep 2025 #37
He dropped out of college to do his hate-grift wolfie001 Sep 2025 #48
A sad end to a truly sad life PatSeg Sep 2025 #57
Yes Martin Eden Sep 2025 #74
Thoughts & Pears IbogaProject Sep 2025 #14
That'll be on his tombstone....or SHOULD be.... Sogo Sep 2025 #15
Apparently he's not dead. Yet. maxsolomon Sep 2025 #16
I feel bad that I want to laugh at his statement now! kimbutgar Sep 2025 #18
I'm conflicted dflprincess Sep 2025 #19
I'll wait to hear he died BaronChocula Sep 2025 #22
He died! BidenRocks Sep 2025 #27
Read it while sitting in the Dr's office BaronChocula Sep 2025 #41
Your wait is over. Maru Kitteh Sep 2025 #28
He was a legitimately evil person Johnny2X2X Sep 2025 #23
Him dying or even worse winding up as a quadriplegic from a bullet is kind of like Rush dying of lung cancer. Botany Sep 2025 #25
He got what he asked for. It's obviously what he wanted. Maru Kitteh Sep 2025 #26
"Guns, don't kill people..." mzmolly Sep 2025 #29
WaPo and NYT front pages say hes dead. tonekat Sep 2025 #30
I feel bad for his wife and kids and wish them well but as far Charlie is concerned his grave needs watered. Botany Sep 2025 #33
Which "him" in that photo? erronis Sep 2025 #38
thoughts + prayers of course. pansypoo53219 Sep 2025 #31
tots and taters. erronis Sep 2025 #42
Yep! Seconded! nt wolfie001 Sep 2025 #44
2nd amendment irony. thanks wayne. pansypoo53219 Sep 2025 #47
The real irony is gonna be tomorrow when they dont say a damn thing about their Precious Amendment Volaris Sep 2025 #70
Kirk gave his life on an altar of his own making dlk Sep 2025 #32
This is really disgusting and disappointing hueymahl Sep 2025 #35
CK sure was wolfie001 Sep 2025 #43
And yet is has no more nor less effect than "thoughts and prayers" does. Torchlight Sep 2025 #71
I appreciate your thinking and caring for the wildlife... liberalla Sep 2025 #39
Time to send ICE and military into Utah to arrest while people with guns. Botany Sep 2025 #46
tRUMP will have him in the Capitol for a ceremony wolfie001 Sep 2025 #40
Well, at this point the best tRUMP can do is give it to Kirk posthumously. SunSeeker Sep 2025 #50
Oh yes! I knew that wolfie001 Sep 2025 #55
Poetic justice SheltieLover Sep 2025 #51
Oh my. 58Sunliner Sep 2025 #52
That's just a damn shame. Hey - anyone else in the mood for pizza? JohnQFunk Sep 2025 #53
the want to "own the libs" so hard that it boomerangs back at them. nt Javaman Sep 2025 #54
LOL Queso Delicioso Sep 2025 #56
And some high school students in Evergreen CO also shot today Hassler Sep 2025 #59
Sorry not sorry about one less rightwing gasbag on this Earth lanlady Sep 2025 #60
Welp. yardwork Sep 2025 #61
His rhetoric was used against him. Beacool Sep 2025 #62
How's that second amendment doing for you now? Clouds Passing Sep 2025 #65
This message was self-deleted by its author COL Mustard Sep 2025 #66
Let's have a 21 gum salute in his honor Blue Owl Sep 2025 #67
This message was self-deleted by its author WestMichRad Sep 2025 #69
TSF and his kind have debased our country and lowered the standard for empathy, legality, moral behavior, wiggs Sep 2025 #68
So sad. PJMcK Sep 2025 #72
Post removed Post removed Sep 2025 #73
Kirk wasn't killed by a well-regulated militia. The Republican interpretation of the 2nd amendment and refusal to diane in sf Sep 2025 #77
"Live by the sword, die by the sword" 3rdGenAntifa Sep 2025 #78
A horrible act, but he chose to live by the proverbial sword. nt dsharp88 Sep 2025 #79
I don't advocate violence. EthanBlue Sep 2025 #80

Farmer-Rick

(12,623 posts)
58. No one is safe when stochastic terrorism is let loose
Wed Sep 10, 2025, 05:25 PM
Sep 2025

The right wing just never thinks someone might accept their call to terrorize and aim it at them. They think they can control and direct where the violence erupts. They certainly never think it will erupt all over them.

yardwork

(69,297 posts)
63. If only they read some history...
Wed Sep 10, 2025, 05:30 PM
Sep 2025

They would learn that many of Hitler's early supporters were assassinated or jailed by him. Or they could read about what Stalin did to so many of his close allies - even erased them from photos after they were executed.

Hell, read about Queen Elizabeth I and so many of her friends and lovers, look how they ended up.

mtngirl47

(1,240 posts)
76. My first thought....Trump did this to take the Epstein heat off of him
Wed Sep 10, 2025, 06:30 PM
Sep 2025

What was Kirk's position on the Epstein files? Was he calling for them to be made public? If so, Trump should be a suspect.

Attilatheblond

(8,803 posts)
81. Maybe sales of trump merch are down and Turning Point sales were going up?
Thu Sep 11, 2025, 09:44 AM
Sep 2025

Trump doesn't like competition and all the trophies are belong to him and him alone!

SoFlaBro

(3,777 posts)
3. Every time a stupid MAGA motherfucker opens their stupid fucking mouths, stupid shit tumbles and falls the fuck out.
Wed Sep 10, 2025, 03:40 PM
Sep 2025

Montauk6

(9,339 posts)
9. And when it falls the f**k out...
Wed Sep 10, 2025, 04:12 PM
Sep 2025

Best believe that it's gonna splash EVERYONE within distance.

Traildogbob

(12,998 posts)
4. Fuck! Never saw this
Wed Sep 10, 2025, 03:41 PM
Sep 2025

Did see a male college groupie shout out at one of his rallies, “When does the shooting start”? Referencing killings libs.

wolfie001

(7,596 posts)
45. That's all his incel base thinks about
Wed Sep 10, 2025, 05:08 PM
Sep 2025

Not enough validation from living with mommy and working fast-food jobs.

MissB

(16,344 posts)
7. well, I would recommend *not* watching the video where he is shot.
Wed Sep 10, 2025, 04:01 PM
Sep 2025

But if you did see it, you'd be asking how anyone could possibly survive. He was shot in the neck and blood was pouring out. His body stiffened up immediately as he fell of the chair in a motion that was not intentional. (other commenters suggest that means it also hit his spine)

popsdenver

(2,211 posts)
12. In all fairness
Wed Sep 10, 2025, 04:23 PM
Sep 2025

if the Media shows a lot of video of him getting shot, and immediately afterwards to solicit sympathy, then we should ask the Parents of Uvalde? for permission to show the crime scene photos of their children.........especially the children shot who couldn't be identified any other way, except using their DNA.........

Yet another example for the Republican Creeps to FAFO.........and just like the two who went after Trump, this shooter was probably also a Republican?????????

Maru Kitteh

(31,689 posts)
64. His posturing indicated decorticate brain damage and yes the quantity
Wed Sep 10, 2025, 05:37 PM
Sep 2025

of blood loss was pretty obviously NOT survivable. I’m not sure he could have been saved if he was prepped and then shot directly on an OR table in a level 1 trauma center.

PatSeg

(53,206 posts)
8. No
Wed Sep 10, 2025, 04:01 PM
Sep 2025

Though I haven't seen any reports as to his condition. I wonder if this will change his stand on 2nd Amendment rights. I doubt it, but it is possible.

calimary

(89,880 posts)
10. Sometimes that actually does happen when the victim survives.
Wed Sep 10, 2025, 04:15 PM
Sep 2025

Not making any predictions here, though.

PatSeg

(53,206 posts)
34. Now they're reporting that Kirk has died
Wed Sep 10, 2025, 05:00 PM
Sep 2025

I don't like the guy, but I don't wish that on anyone.

James48

(5,191 posts)
11. I saw the video.
Wed Sep 10, 2025, 04:16 PM
Sep 2025

There is no way he can survive that shot. It was very well placed. I give him 30 seconds survival max.

NJCher

(43,076 posts)
13. just announced on msnbc he's alive 4:29 p.m.
Wed Sep 10, 2025, 04:29 PM
Sep 2025

However, based on posts upthread, it sounds like it's dubious that he will survive.

James48

(5,191 posts)
49. Again, I saw the video.
Wed Sep 10, 2025, 05:13 PM
Sep 2025

I give him :05 seconds to MAYBE :30 seconds before he bled out. It was a massive hit in an artery, blood sprayed, and he also moved as if his spine was severed in the process. It was clearly not a survivable wound.

wolfie001

(7,596 posts)
48. He dropped out of college to do his hate-grift
Wed Sep 10, 2025, 05:11 PM
Sep 2025

He was very successful unfortunately. Now we have to deal with the consequences of his hate-spreading that's infected the brains of so many young, white males.

maxsolomon

(38,635 posts)
16. Apparently he's not dead. Yet.
Wed Sep 10, 2025, 04:33 PM
Sep 2025

Made it to a hospital and into surgery.

On Edit: confirmed dead.

kimbutgar

(27,209 posts)
18. I feel bad that I want to laugh at his statement now!
Wed Sep 10, 2025, 04:36 PM
Sep 2025

Maybe he will change after this shooting if he survives.

dflprincess

(29,328 posts)
19. I'm conflicted
Wed Sep 10, 2025, 04:38 PM
Sep 2025

I'm fed up with gun violence and feel bad for Kirk's family & friends...maybe even a bit for him

But, darn, I do enjoy seeing Karma in action.

BaronChocula

(4,501 posts)
41. Read it while sitting in the Dr's office
Wed Sep 10, 2025, 05:03 PM
Sep 2025

While waiting for my physical. Dr asked how I was doing. I said “better than Charlie Kirk.” I laughed anyway.

And I still think I’ll go with gun control. Sorry Charlie.

Johnny2X2X

(24,149 posts)
23. He was a legitimately evil person
Wed Sep 10, 2025, 04:42 PM
Sep 2025

Who advocate for horrible deaths for millions of Americans he disagrees with.

That’s all I got.

Botany

(77,208 posts)
25. Him dying or even worse winding up as a quadriplegic from a bullet is kind of like Rush dying of lung cancer.
Wed Sep 10, 2025, 04:46 PM
Sep 2025

One less hate talker for money.

Maru Kitteh

(31,689 posts)
26. He got what he asked for. It's obviously what he wanted.
Wed Sep 10, 2025, 04:47 PM
Sep 2025

Maybe guns don’t make America great though. Just, maybe.

mzmolly

(52,775 posts)
29. "Guns, don't kill people..."
Wed Sep 10, 2025, 04:50 PM
Sep 2025

Last edited Wed Sep 10, 2025, 06:52 PM - Edit history (1)

You know the rest.

I hate to be so callous, but these people are part of the reason our school children are being slaughtered. I’m having trouble mustering up sympathy.

That said, I do feel for his wife and children.

Botany

(77,208 posts)
33. I feel bad for his wife and kids and wish them well but as far Charlie is concerned his grave needs watered.
Wed Sep 10, 2025, 04:56 PM
Sep 2025

A hate talker for money. The world is better off without him.

Volaris

(11,666 posts)
70. The real irony is gonna be tomorrow when they dont say a damn thing about their Precious Amendment
Wed Sep 10, 2025, 06:15 PM
Sep 2025

NOT A FUCKING WORD. It'll be 'oh, this is about librul crimz in big siteez, so we better let the tyrant use the federal military to occupy our own cities.'
THAT ACTION IS WHAT THE POSSE COMITATUS ACT WAS WRITTEN FOR IN THE FIRST PLACE, (by the ORIGINAL MAGAs, mind you---the ones in the anti-reconstructionist South)

THAT is a problem that may require a 2nd amendment solution, NOT 'Charlie Kirk got shot by probably one of our own lunatics, so NOW we need more than Thoughts and Prayers, yeah too bad about those 2 decades of dead gradeschoolers.'

Dems, DO NOT let them off the hook with this. Yes, it's politics, and yes, it's dirty and ruthless.
So bone up and get your fucking hands dirty on this one. When asked how you feel about this, go ahead and smash that LIKE button that says SECOND AMENDMENT.

LIKE THEYVE BEEN DOING SINCE COLUMBINE.

dlk

(13,237 posts)
32. Kirk gave his life on an altar of his own making
Wed Sep 10, 2025, 04:55 PM
Sep 2025

I’m wondering if his other colleagues are considering they could be next?

America is desperate for rational gun control and they refuse to see it.

Torchlight

(6,759 posts)
71. And yet is has no more nor less effect than "thoughts and prayers" does.
Wed Sep 10, 2025, 06:16 PM
Sep 2025

He's remains dead, regardless of parades and pandering to it or mockery and trivialzing it.

Botany

(77,208 posts)
46. Time to send ICE and military into Utah to arrest while people with guns.
Wed Sep 10, 2025, 05:09 PM
Sep 2025

You are right the poor leopards might eat too much.

wolfie001

(7,596 posts)
40. tRUMP will have him in the Capitol for a ceremony
Wed Sep 10, 2025, 05:03 PM
Sep 2025

Fatso and his slovakian model gold-digger in her wide-brimmed hat. 2 stupid clowns. Just for the attention.

wolfie001

(7,596 posts)
55. Oh yes! I knew that
Wed Sep 10, 2025, 05:17 PM
Sep 2025

I was, of course, referring to the bier in the Capitol rotunda that's reserved for heroic Americans. Not hate-filled racists like this mf'er was.

lanlady

(7,229 posts)
60. Sorry not sorry about one less rightwing gasbag on this Earth
Wed Sep 10, 2025, 05:26 PM
Sep 2025

I wonder what his death will do to TPUSA.

Response to Botany (Original post)

Response to Blue Owl (Reply #67)

wiggs

(8,788 posts)
68. TSF and his kind have debased our country and lowered the standard for empathy, legality, moral behavior,
Wed Sep 10, 2025, 06:12 PM
Sep 2025

healthy public discussion, courtesy, and very much so violence.

I/we do not condone this lowering of expectations nor the violence. But for sure there are people and political entities that are due some blame. I am reminded of the republican Georgia election official who warned against this kind of diminishment. Back in 2020.

In a prescient and heartfelt warning against GOP silence re violence and rhetoric, his summary was that '...All of you who have not said a damn word are complicit in this.' There are very clearly people and organizations that deserve an outsized share of the blame for their rhetoric and their silence. I will also place blame on MSM outlets which do not remind us of these differences and of the many warnings such as the one below.

https://www.npr.org/sections/biden-transition-updates/2020/12/01/940961602/someones-going-to-get-killed-ga-official-blasts-gop-silence-on-election-threats#:~:text=Updated%20at%2010:55%20p.m.,%22It's%20not%20right.%22

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diane in sf

(4,244 posts)
77. Kirk wasn't killed by a well-regulated militia. The Republican interpretation of the 2nd amendment and refusal to
Wed Sep 10, 2025, 06:41 PM
Sep 2025

sensibly regulate gun ownership has turned this country into a killing field. I feel bad for his children.

3rdGenAntifa

(20 posts)
78. "Live by the sword, die by the sword"
Wed Sep 10, 2025, 07:42 PM
Sep 2025
Thoughts and prayers mother fucker.

All that are offended by this, wake the fuck up. These fuckers are already responsible for killing millions.

EthanBlue

(60 posts)
80. I don't advocate violence.
Thu Sep 11, 2025, 12:12 AM
Sep 2025

I will take Kirk at his mantra. No empathy.

When you generate hatred, but especially for profit. It will find you.

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