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Is it time to talk about guns now? (Original Post) Coventina Sep 2025 OP
Live by the sword, die by the sword... Ocelot II Sep 2025 #1
Never. Mob violence in the US is the goal. Ask what's his name usonian Sep 2025 #2
Let's wait ZDU Sep 2025 #3
Charlie said gun deaths are the cost of the 2nd Amendment OrlandoDem2 Sep 2025 #4
No Rebl2 Sep 2025 #5
Of course not Diraven Sep 2025 #6
Kirk would say it is not rational to do so. RockRaven Sep 2025 #7
way past time RANDYWILDMAN Sep 2025 #8
The shooter was a gun owner. Therefore, apparently had some kind of sainthood. Sneederbunk Sep 2025 #9
Ensure the nomenclature for the weapon is correct. Torchlight Sep 2025 #10
Certainly not! DFW Sep 2025 #11

OrlandoDem2

(3,243 posts)
4. Charlie said gun deaths are the cost of the 2nd Amendment
Wed Sep 10, 2025, 05:25 PM
Sep 2025

That needs to be repeated over and over. He should never have been killed. There are 2 kids without a dad now. A family without a loved one. But…..he should never have made the claim that he did about lives lost in gun violence. It was so callous!

From April 2023….

https://www.newsweek.com/charlie-kirk-says-gun-deaths-worth-it-2nd-amendment-1793113

Charlie Kirk, the conservative founder and president of Turning Point USA, said during an organizational event on Wednesday that gun deaths in exchange for the preservation of Second Amendment rights is part of America's reality.

Kirk's comments come about one week after three children and three adults were killed at the Christian Covenant School in Nashville, Tennessee.

The Nashville mass shooting was the 130th mass shooting in the United States in 2023, according to the Gun Violence Archive, an online database of gun violence incidents across America using data collected from law enforcement, media, government and commercial sources.

The U.S. has averaged more than one mass shooting per day since the start of 2023, per the archive, which puts the nation on track to exceed the 647 recorded mass shootings of 2022.

"You will never live in a society when you have an armed citizenry and you won't have a single gun death," Kirk said at a Turning Point USA Faith event on Wednesday, as reported by Media Matters for America. "That is nonsense. It's drivel. But I am—I think it's worth it.
"I think it's worth to have a cost of,
unfortunately, some gun deaths every single year so that we can have the Second Amendment to protect our other God-given rights. That is a prudent deal. It is rational. Nobody talks like this. They live in a complete alternate universe."

Diraven

(1,951 posts)
6. Of course not
Wed Sep 10, 2025, 05:26 PM
Sep 2025

It's time to talk about whoever the current right-wing boogeyman scapegoat is.

RockRaven

(19,754 posts)
7. Kirk would say it is not rational to do so.
Wed Sep 10, 2025, 05:35 PM
Sep 2025
"You will never live in a society when you have an armed citizenry and you won't have a single gun death," Kirk said at a Turning Point USA Faith event on Wednesday, as reported by Media Matters for America. "That is nonsense. It's drivel. But I am—I think it's worth it.

"I think it's worth to have a cost of, unfortunately, some gun deaths every single year so that we can have the Second Amendment to protect our other God-given rights. That is a prudent deal. It is rational. Nobody talks like this. They live in a complete alternate universe."

RANDYWILDMAN

(3,179 posts)
8. way past time
Wed Sep 10, 2025, 05:38 PM
Sep 2025

I just always picture Charlton Heston in his casket with the gun in his cold dead hands ? Is that wrong

This conversation just never really goes anywhere, but i'm willing to talk about it.

I would like to remember the Columbine Kids and the Springfield kids and let them start the conversation. I can't help but dislike that Kirk could start the conversation he spewed so much hate

a lot like Rush talking bout the sanctity of marriage or Trump talking about protecting children

Torchlight

(7,059 posts)
10. Ensure the nomenclature for the weapon is correct.
Wed Sep 10, 2025, 05:40 PM
Sep 2025

No need to trigger oops, rile up the sealions (which I may have inadvertently done by caling it a weapon instead of a Neutral Tool)

DFW

(60,436 posts)
11. Certainly not!
Wed Sep 10, 2025, 05:46 PM
Sep 2025

I asked a Republican for you. Not as easy as you might think. They are not easy to find in western Europe!

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