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ZDU
(1,415 posts)One can never be certain
OrlandoDem2
(3,243 posts)That needs to be repeated over and over. He should never have been killed. There are 2 kids without a dad now. A family without a loved one. But
..he should never have made the claim that he did about lives lost in gun violence. It was so callous!
From April 2023
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https://www.newsweek.com/charlie-kirk-says-gun-deaths-worth-it-2nd-amendment-1793113
Charlie Kirk, the conservative founder and president of Turning Point USA, said during an organizational event on Wednesday that gun deaths in exchange for the preservation of Second Amendment rights is part of America's reality.
Kirk's comments come about one week after three children and three adults were killed at the Christian Covenant School in Nashville, Tennessee.
The Nashville mass shooting was the 130th mass shooting in the United States in 2023, according to the Gun Violence Archive, an online database of gun violence incidents across America using data collected from law enforcement, media, government and commercial sources.
The U.S. has averaged more than one mass shooting per day since the start of 2023, per the archive, which puts the nation on track to exceed the 647 recorded mass shootings of 2022.
"You will never live in a society when you have an armed citizenry and you won't have a single gun death," Kirk said at a Turning Point USA Faith event on Wednesday, as reported by Media Matters for America. "That is nonsense. It's drivel. But I amI think it's worth it.
"I think it's worth to have a cost of,
unfortunately, some gun deaths every single year so that we can have the Second Amendment to protect our other God-given rights. That is a prudent deal. It is rational. Nobody talks like this. They live in a complete alternate universe."
Thats what republicans always say, so no.
Diraven
(1,951 posts)It's time to talk about whoever the current right-wing boogeyman scapegoat is.
RockRaven
(19,754 posts)"I think it's worth to have a cost of, unfortunately, some gun deaths every single year so that we can have the Second Amendment to protect our other God-given rights. That is a prudent deal. It is rational. Nobody talks like this. They live in a complete alternate universe."
RANDYWILDMAN
(3,179 posts)I just always picture Charlton Heston in his casket with the gun in his cold dead hands ? Is that wrong
This conversation just never really goes anywhere, but i'm willing to talk about it.
I would like to remember the Columbine Kids and the Springfield kids and let them start the conversation. I can't help but dislike that Kirk could start the conversation he spewed so much hate
a lot like Rush talking bout the sanctity of marriage or Trump talking about protecting children
Sneederbunk
(17,640 posts)Torchlight
(7,059 posts)No need to trigger oops, rile up the sealions (which I may have inadvertently done by caling it a weapon instead of a Neutral Tool)
DFW
(60,436 posts)I asked a Republican for you. Not as easy as you might think. They are not easy to find in western Europe!
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