Political differences and disagreements should never lead to political assassinations.

[madaboutharry]

The grave dancing is shameful.

[ZDU]

1. Maybe it was a false flag

By their side

[Bernardo de La Paz]

2. OP's point would still apply in that unlikely event. . . . nt

[ZDU]

4. Good point

I dance when I'm happy!

[madaboutharry]

3. ....

[ZDU]

6. On a related note...

Should anything ever lead to assassinations? I think not.

[SSJVegeta]

5. Yeah not a fan.

[lapfog_1]

7. until we have the shooter in custody

and get their statement or their social media, etc.

We have no idea WHY Kirk was killed. Could be over a financial dealing gone bad, or some other personal matter.

Could be someone just trying to be famous for killing someone at a political event.

We don't know who and we don't know why.

[Coventina]

8. your thread title is true

Couldn't disagree more about the grave dancing, though.

I love grave dancing!

Kirk richly deserves it.

He wanted people to die for the 2nd amendment. He died for his own cause.

He and his family should be happy.

[samsingh]

9. please tell that to the republicans

who dance on the graves of school children and then deny that the event even happened

[ZDU]

17. Hear, hear!

Boom.
Thank you, samsingh, very well said.

[samsingh]

33. thank you

[chelsea0011]

32. Or make jokes

after a Speakers husband is almost killed by a hammer.

[samsingh]

34. exactly - and they still do

[RANDYWILDMAN]

10. We all agree

don't shame people though

Also tons of us remember Minnesota, well our current leaders pretty much pretended that didn't happen. SAD

Kirk SAD

This also happened in beautiful Utah, should we send in the guard to protect people SAD

46,000 guns deaths in 2023 very SAD

[hamsterjill]

11. But they do.

And it happened again today.

How people react is not for someone else to dictate.

[Maru Kitteh]

12. No - BUT GUNS ARE EVERYWHERE and so this is what happens.

Charlie Kirk thought it was fine that some people should die at the shrine of the 2nd amendment and he got his wish. Now we move on.

[ZDU]

15. Hear, hear.

Thank you.

[Daveigh]

21. As are knives

Look what recently happened to the Ukrainian young woman in North Carolina.

The bottom line: We’ve got to get to the point in this country where/when people can hold different ideological and political viewpoints without violently attacking each other for doing so.

[Maru Kitteh]

26. That woman was killed with a knife from 200 yards over politics? WoW!

Just don’t. Mkay?

[Daveigh]

29. I believe you may have misunderstood

I was simply responding to your “guns are everywhere” thought. As are knives. And people are becoming increasingly violent. I certainly wasn’t disagreeing with you. My apologies if I communicated my thoughts ineffectively.

[Doodley]

13. Should Hitler have been assassinated, potentially saving 72 million lives? Yes or no?

[ZDU]

14. Excellent point.

Most would affirm yes, is my guess.

[EdmondDantes_]

16. That's not a political difference

For all of Kirk's hate, he wasn't ordering the deaths of millions in concentration camps or starting a war

[Doodley]

20. Nor was Hitler for eight years after being elected Chancellor.

[madaboutharry]

23. Charlie Kirk was not the Chancellor of anything.

Hitler turned Germany into an authoritarian dictatorship in the years before he started WWII.

Trying to justify this killing is just plain wrong.

[Doodley]

28. I'm not justifying anything, but sweeping statements don't help.

[madaboutharry]

19. That is a ridiculous analogy.

Are you seriously comparing Charlie Kirk to Hitler?

Hitler invaded sovereign nations, caused a World War, and was responsible for the deaths of millions upon millions of people by 1945.

Charlie Kirk was a political activist with right-wing ideas that many found abhorrent. Please...

[Doodley]

25. It took Hitler eight years to start implementing the mass executions of Jews, and over six years to start .

invading other countries. Trump has already talked about taking Canada, the Panama Canal, Greenland, and building a resort in Gaza, as well as standing with Putin in the invasion of Ukraine, encouraged by the likes of Kirk. As for all his other scapegoating, cruelty, division and spread of hated, misinformation and bigotry, you can't see any similarities?

[LeftInTX]

24. Charlie Kirk's death is not going to save millions of lives.

[usonian]

18. Tell that to the families of every soldier who died defending their country in a "justified" war.

Don't tell me war isn't political, and that any one murder is different from another.

And let's talk about grave dancing.

[Doodley]

31. Thank you. I wish I could have said it as well as you.

[usonian]

41. Political differences are all "constructed". All killing is wrong.

So difficult to be a Buddhist these days.
But with a feeling of
• Wisdom
• Good intent
• Right speech, and
• Right actions

there are more, but if more people got this far, what a wonderful world it would be.

I read about two lay Buddhist leaders discussing politics, and the solution was simply more people with humanistic values in word and deed.

It's really that simple, and
It's really that hard.

Peace

[Doodley]

42. You wouldn't kill a man to stop him from murdering your friends and family? You think that is wrong?

[usonian]

43. I would wound. I have poor eyesight anyway.

I have no friends within 50 miles and no family closer than 180 miles.

I would do all I could not to kill.

I am responsible only for my own actions. Nobody else's.

Bear spray and high power laser for now.

[Doodley]

44. I'm no fighter either. I'm a vegetarian poet, but hell, I hope I would kill to save the life of others, rather .

than waste time thinking about the attacker's life. These could be split-second decisions, and every second that attacker is alive, he may kill others or me.

[usonian]

47. Circumstances don't warrant it.

Cheers. Find a safer neighborhood.

Got to go. Under heavy attack by bunny rabbits and quail.

[Doodley]

48. My neighborhood is not relevant to your point that killing is never justifiable. Of course it is when it saves lives.

You 'd rather that the confederates won because there would be no resistance? You'd rather be speaking German because it was wrong for America to fight back in WW2? The heroes that shoot school shooters are wrong? "Find a safer neighborhood," is a cop out.

[usonian]

49. You're a troll. Get a life. I have music to write.

And have a wonderful evening.

[Mosby]

22. President Biden

Link to tweet

[Yorkie Mom]

30. Thank you!

[SamuelTheThird]

38. An appeal to religion, once again

One of the chief evils in this world. And responsible for Trump's win as well.

[pfitz59]

27. Human nature

is what it is.

[niyad]

35. I will save my emottions for the children shot at Evergreen HS this

afternoon. .Necessary sacrfiices, according to that fucking bastard kirk, to the all-high 2A. oooops for charlie.

[Attilatheblond]

36. Agree. But kids in school should not be sitting ducks to people who should not have guns but who have & use them

Sensible gun safety is needed. Kirk didn't seem to think so. Sometimes Karma smacks hard.

[ImNotGod]

37. Don't worry, I'm sure there is more than enough handwringing on the fascist media,

and I will dance whenever, wherever I want, if anyone doesn't like it they can put me on ignore.

[madaboutharry]

40. Ok.

[BannonsLiver]

45. Wait until you see what happens if Trump croaks out on the toilet someday.

[Tribetime]

46. I agree 100% with you, President Biden, and President Obama