My 'tribute' to Charlie Kirk

[EnergizedLib]

“MLK was awful,” Kirk said. “He's not a good person. He said one good thing he actually didn't believe.”

‘“I have a very, very radical view on this, but I can defend it, and I’ve thought about it,” Kirk said at America Fest. “We made a huge mistake when we passed the Civil Rights Act in the 1960s.”’

"I think empathy is a made up New Age term that does a lot of damage"

‘"If I see a Black pilot, I'm gonna be like 'boy, I hope he is qualified,'" the activist and host of the The Charlie Kirk Show said.’

‘The Second Amendment of the US Constitution protects the right to keep and bear arms.
“You will never live in a society when you have an armed citizenry and you won't have a single gun death," Kirk said at a Turning Point USA, according to Newsweek.

That is nonsense. It's drivel. But I am—I think it's worth it.

"I think it's worth to have a cost of, unfortunately, some gun deaths every single year so that we can have the Second Amendment to protect our other God-given rights.’

Remember what happened to Charlie Kirk today and he wouldn’t have cared less if it happened to any of you.

Empathy? I’ll save my empathy for those more worthy of it, those who exuded empathy, not denounced it.

[marble falls]

1. His biggest shits collection. Now on TACO records.

[EnergizedLib]

3. And I'm sure I'm missing others

[marble falls]

6. Sure are, but you did do a nice highlights reel.

[AZ8theist]

62. Don't forget he said the 2nd Amendment is a "God given right"...

How WEAK is your God that you need to purchase multiple human-killing guns to defend that right????

[EnergizedLib]

81. It's a God-given right for militias to protect a free state?

[spooky3]

89. He's said lots of misogynist stuff too. Nt

[malaise]

2. Ditto

Rec

[johnp3907]

4. An undeniable tragedy.

His life I mean.

[EnergizedLib]

5. Ditto

[newdeal2]

7. Don't forget the young people who he led down a dark path

[choie]

10. That's probably one of his biggests sins.

[UTUSN]

8. K&R

[Escape]

9. Thanks...

Apparently, a lot of people here on Democratic Underground don't realize that WE ARE AT WAR!

They think rules of etiquette are still "a thing" and that we should be reverent and reserved about the death of the political cancer that threatens to kill us all.

Thanks for rising above that...(or below that, according to them)

Today was a good day for equality, fairness, truth, justice, honesty, inclusion and the United States of America.

[EnergizedLib]

11. When they go low

Kick them below.

[MuirHero]

73. Amen to that!

[Calculating]

17. Well that is just a terrible look

Any unbiased observer would find that utterly ghoulish

[hamsterjill]

28. I've posted this numerous times today, but I really think it's what happened here.

No one advocated for this man's death and certainly no one on DU was involved in his killing.

Karma just bites sometimes. To me, it's like when one of those wild game hunters gets killed by the very animal that they were trying to kill. Kirk got bitten today by what he advocated so forcefully for. Sometimes, the universe just reminds us that it's a powerful thing.

We are most definitely at war and it's going to take getting tough, getting down and dirty, and beating up the bullies to save us. For some on here to think we can still be all civilized and proper while the other side seeks to eradicate us, is a little stupid in my opinion.

I take no pleasure in what happened today, but I didn't cause it, and I will use my sympathies elsewhere. Like the kids in Colorado today, or in my own neck of the woods, the kids who were massacred in Uvalde.

[littlemissmartypants]

47. "Sometimes, the universe just reminds us that it's a powerful thing." This is a very astute point! ...

The finger wagging, from those here who like to claim that we adults, who live in a free society with freedom of speech, need them to belittle some of us for expressing emotions are not only pedantic in their obsessive beliefs but are also being disrespectful.

Each of us, as free thinking adults, are entitled to police ourselves and express our feelings.

To attempt to silence someone that is telling you how they feel is a symptom of a deep psychological disturbance.

It's either a symptom of fear, of the need to exert power over others or the expression of the belief that only the very righteous are entitled to have feelings.

Plus, it expresses that those that express their, judged to be contrarian, emotions are wrong in their beliefs and are not entitled to their unique emotions.

Such judgment is also, whether deliberate or unconscious, sometimes an expression of a form of emotional abuse.

Thank you, hamsterjill. ❤️

[hamsterjill]

68. I really do like your reasoning!

Yes, we should be able to express our feelings here without being shamed for saying what we feel and meaning it. It's who we are.

I think your point as to some having the need to exert power is especially interesting and accurate. There's one thread about "not making DU look bad". Are we really here to worry about an image? I'm not.

There is one particular long-time poster who responds quite regularly to people with "we need to be better than that". It's tiresome and as one other person posted today, it feels like a "Karen" (and I don't like that nickname!!!) is monitoring the board. We should each feel free to say what we want to say as long as it doesn't break the rules of conduct on DU, and if someone finds a post that they don't like, they can either alert or ignore.

I have honestly spent the greater part of today analyzing my feelings about Kirk's death. I'm not an unfeeling, uncaring person. I've questioned why I'm not more affected by his death. But I'm not a saint either. First and foremost, politically at least, I'm a feminist and that man would have taken more rights away from women in a heartbeat because of his religious views. He's no longer capable of doing that, advocating that, or causing further damage to the deterioration of anyone's rights in this country. The conclusion that I've come to after self-reflecting truly IS what I said - the universe spoke today. It had enough of Charlie Kirk and the hatred that he spewed. We mere mortals played no role in that decision.

It will be interesting once we know who the perpetrator was. Or perhaps we will never know if it was a "professional" job. The idea that it might be Putin sending a message to Trump that "no one is safe" crossed my mind. We certainly don't have enough information for that to be anything more than a spoken wondering. In the coming days we will learn more.

It's apparent and realistic that, at this point, this type of thing is going to become more commonplace. Like the school shootings, attacks on public figures will become more frequent. I don't want that to happen, but with Donald Trump spouting the hateful rhetoric that he simply cannot contain because he enjoys it - things will continue to get worse. We need to be ready and we are going to need to dispense our limited amount of compassion to those situations that we are inclined.

I appreciate your response and your kind words. I hope you have a great evening.

[littlemissmartypants]

70. You, too! Thanks so much for your reply. ❤️

[Escape]

51. Thank you

for your kind level-headed STRONG response...

[MuirHero]

74. Well said hamsterjill.

[70sEraVet]

88. I find that I agree with you, especially on this line:

"....like when one of those wild game hunters gets killed by the very animal that they were trying to kill."
If it turns out that Kirk was killed by the father of one of the kids who were shot in order to preserve the 2nd Amendment for Charlie Kirk, .....well, if I was sitting on a jury, the prosecutor would have a hard time convincing me.

[louis-t]

57. This seems to be a common thing among maga these days.

"ICE is coming for you", and then a terrible derogatory name. I ask the idiot "So, you admit now that he wants to put anyone he doesn't like in prison? Let me ask you something (magat), what if he decides he doesn't like you?" Never have gotten a response.

[rubbersole]

58. Long lived Charlie.

I fixed it for you.

[Bernardo de La Paz]

59. You are a clueless cult-member. Troll be gone. . . . nt

[fujiyamasan]

75. The problem with this line of thought

Is what’s the end game? Where does this kind of violence lead?

[wiggs]

12. This whole dark gun violence situation is sad and tragic. A mass shooting event every day in addition

to the shooting deaths in ones and twos. Very sad, even when involving an indecent person.

What struck me in your post was the line 'Remember what happened to Charlie Kirk today and he wouldn't have cared less if it happened to any of you.' I believe that to be true. And the same for the rest of the TSF and gun worshippers who lack the empathy that we used to automatically ascribe to everyone but have come to realize otherwise.

Sad.

[wiggs]

13. How is someone who has said these things and more NOT a sociopath? nt

[littlemissmartypants]

48. He most likely, was. ...

Characteristics of Psychopaths

1. Aggressive, callous, and cunning
2. Complete absence of conscience and empathy
3. Very adept at manipulating others
4. Willingness to engage in immoral, criminal conduct
5. Willingness to take what they want and do as they please, regardless of who is hurt or wronged
6. Deceptive ability to appear outwardly benevolent
7. Deceptive ability to behave in superficially charming ways to hide purely selfish motives
8. Willingness to use intimidation and violence to control others in order to satisfy their own needs
9. Willingness to intentionally violate the basic inherent human rights of others
10. Complete absence of any sense of guilt or remorse for the harm their actions have caused to others
11. Rationalization of their own immoral behavior
12. Will attempt to lay blame upon someone else for their own conduct
13. Denial, will deny their own wrongdoing outright
14. Utter contemptuousness toward the feelings and desires of their fellow beings
15. Pathological lying, will say anything without any concern for truth to advance their own hidden agendas
16. Ablity to feign [fake] normal human emotions and empathy
17. Distorted sense of the consequences of their actions
18. Total failure to accept any responsibility for their own socially irresponsible ways
19. Strong bellef that they will never be brought to justice for their criminal behavior

[Rebl2]

14. I definitely

agree with your last two sentences.

[live love laugh]

15. Be careful of those who think you are celebrating,

Great post thank you.

[EnergizedLib]

16. Thank you

[lastlib]

18. If only Charlie Kirk had had a gun today, he'd still be alive, right?

"Good guy with a gun"?

We thankfully won't have to hear any more of his idiocy.

[Norrrm]

90. OUCH!

[yellow dahlia]

19. Meanwhile, there are three school children fighting for their lives in Colorado tonight.

https://www.coloradoan.com/story/news/2025/09/10/3-criticallycolorado-shooting-reportedly-injures-three-at-evergreen-high-school3-critically-injuured/86082124007/

[EnergizedLib]

20. That's where my sympathy goes

[wolfie001]

25. Yes! Don't waste our sympathy on that racist dood

Tots and pears

[poozwah]

80. martyrs

empathy? based on his statements, kirk had no empathy for victims of gun violence. he saw them as necessary to insure that americans have easy and unregulated access to implements of violence. no death, not charley’s and not a student’s, is worth this cost. the second amendment consists of 27 words, but the gun rights supporters only seem to remember the last 14 which seem to make gun ownership an absolute right while ignoring the the first 13 that includes the 2 words, well regulated. it is time for well regulation.

[Norrrm]

91. All those dead school children were 'worth' it to Charlie.

I disapprove of his killing. Charlie understood his own need for accepting it.
Charlie Kirk: “It’s worth to have a cost of, unfortunately, some gun deaths every single year so that we can have the Second Amendment”

https://www.mediamatters.org/charlie-kirk/charlie-kirk-its-worth-have-cost-unfortunately-some-gun-deaths-every-single-year-so-we

All those dead school children were 'worth' it to Charlie.

[BluenFLA]

21. Talk about karma!

Kirk would not have cared if this happened to someone on the left. He always mouthed off about guns and in the end karma caught up to him.

[wolfie001]

26. Fox News would be making jokes about it if it was a Left-Wing podcaster

They brag about not having empathy and mock people that show any empathy. Eff them to hell.

[EnergizedLib]

40. Empathy is a sin to them

If it was one of us instead, Charlie Kirk wouldn’t have sent condolences.

If trump really did shoot someone on Fifth Avenue, many, and I’m guessing Charlie Kirk himself, would applaud it. How do I know this? Almost half of Republicans polled would stand by trump even if incriminated in the Epstein Files.

[littlemissmartypants]

52. Have you heard the interview on the anti empathy movement?

How empathy came to be seen as a weakness in conservative circles
March 22, 20258:05 AM ET
Heard on Weekend Edition Saturday

There's a growing movement, among some conservatives, pushing back against traditional notions of empathy. What's behind it, and what might it mean, especially for Christian conservatives?

https://www.npr.org/2025/03/22/nx-s1-5321299/how-empathy-came-to-be-seen-as-a-weakness-in-conservative-circles

https://m.

#:~:text=In%20this%20episode%2C%20Elon%20Musk%20joins%20Joe%20Rogan,for%20political%20gain%2C%20potentially%20leading%20to%20societal%20challenges.


❤️ pants
RESIST!! ✊️

[Karasu]

64. I 100% blame Musk for making openly anti-empathy philosophy trendy and cool among these people.

[Bev54]

69. It is utterly ironic how we are now supposed to have empathy for Charlie Kirk.

JFC

[agingdem]

53. to paraphrase Bette Davis upon learning of Joan Crawford's death..

"You should never say bad things about the dead, only good"...Charlie Kirk is dead....good!

[twodogsbarking]

22. Sorry Charlie.

[wolfie001]

27. Oh my! Forgot about that one!

I'm a Boomer and well, it's fitting.

[steelyboo]

61. Sad thing is, I'd actually be upset if they shot the fish

[twodogsbarking]

83. How do they get those big fish into those little cans?

[wolfie001]

86. Remember Jessica Simpson's "Chicken of the Sea" comment?

Another all-time classic.

[wolfie001]

84. Poor fishy

[twodogsbarking]

82. Thank you, sincerely, your wing man.

[multigraincracker]

23. I don't think a god gives us rights.

Unless it gives us rules. They define each other, just like heads define tails and black defines white. Can’t have one without the other. But that makes too much sense.

I’m thankful for him. I have a perfect example of how not to act. If I’m about to act or say something, I can always ask myself, is this something he would do or say. If it is, I don’t do or say it.

[PatSeg]

29. Yes, I find the combination of "guns" and

"god given rights" in the same sentence absolutely abhorrent. Also his comments about empathy being "a made up New Age term that does a lot of damage". Apparently he never read the teachings of Jesus.

Meanwhile, I've heard little mention of the three school age children who were shot today. We live in very strange times for sure.

[Queso Delicioso]

24. The world is a little brighter today.

[JBTaurus83]

30. Be careful

If you are unbothered by a racist fascist kook meeting his fate with the universe, some
May say you are rude.

[EnergizedLib]

37. I'd rather be rude

Than be a Charlie Kirk

[tonekat]

31. The new Poster Child for Abortion

What a vile individual. He worked at being evil.

[irisblue]

32. Don't forget Kirks' misogyny & worries about birth rates " Charlie Kirk Mad Women Won't Be Brood Mares"

Source-https://crooksandliars.com/2025/09/charlie-kirk-very-upset-more-women-dont



snip-"Apparently, Kirk believes that all those "selfish" women out there who have made having a career instead of having kids a priority are miserable, lonely, and have mental health issues, and the only solution for that problem is to go have a bunch of kids."

snip-"Young women, they don't value having children, and this is one of the reasons why we are seeing a fertility collapse in the West. We're seeing less and less young people get married. We're seeing more and more people go into their 30s to have children.


snip-"And I would also tell young ladies you can always go back to your career later, that there is a window where you primarily should pursue marriage and having children, which is beautiful."


More there.

[irisblue]

34. Charlie Kirk on Black Womens brain power

Link to tweet

[FakeNoose]

39. Anyone who says irresponsible stuff like that is aiming to do the same thing that Chump does

... appeal to the lowest common denominator and try to stir them up for more hatred.

[Norrrm]

41. Like Melania plagiarizing Michelle Obama's words?

https://www.google.com/search?q=melania+stole+michelle+obama%27s+writings&sca_esv=e20ef5b3db63d22c&sxsrf=AE3TifNqJiZso_06ZLQJbQpB015Hcs2I0w%3A1757555241422&source=hp&ei=KSrCaI6uF4ahiLMPi5WP-QI&iflsig=AOw8s4IAAAAAaMI4OUEsEuG_yxfkCByPHh73Vpjh9lL8&ved=0ahUKEwjO5te-y8-PAxWGEGIAHYvKIy8Q4dUDCCw&uact=5&oq=melania+stole+michelle+obama%27s+writings&gs_lp=Egdnd3Mtd2l6IidtZWxhbmlhIHN0b2xlIG1pY2hlbGxlIG9iYW1hJ3Mgd3JpdGluZ3NIkZQBUPcRWIiHAXACeACQAQCYAX-gAaoZqgEEMzYuNLgBA8gBAPgBAZgCDKACngeoAgrCAgcQIxgnGOoCwgIHEC4YJxjqAsICBBAjGCfCAgoQIxiABBgnGIoFwgIIEAAYgAQYsQPCAg4QLhiABBixAxjRAxjHAcICCxAAGIAEGLEDGIMBwgIREC4YgAQYsQMY0QMYgwEYxwHCAgsQLhiABBjRAxjHAcICDhAuGIAEGLEDGIMBGIoFwgIFEAAYgATCAg4QABiABBixAxiDARiKBcICCxAuGIAEGLEDGIMBwgIIEC4YgAQYsQPCAgUQLhiABMICBxAuGIAEGArCAgoQABiABBixAxgKwgIHEAAYgAQYCpgDDPEFBjqgB7idhYuSBwQxMS4xoAftkQGyBwQxMC4xuAeRB8IHBTItOC40yAdW&sclient=gws-wiz

[ancianita]

95. This is who trump wants to give a posthumous medal of freedom award to.

[Aussie105]

33. This is the convergence of two aspects of American society.

1. A rabble rouser out to inflame peoples' passion on low level anti-social stuff.

2. Guns, their easy availability and a tool seen by some as a 'solution' to a wide range of problems.

1 meets 2.

Don't act surprised.

[niyad]

35. My empathy is for the children of Evergreen HS and their famlies today.

And the people in Ukraine, Gaza, Sudan. everywhere.

[irisblue]

36. Last 2 on womens rights and Kirk

Link to tweet

Link to tweet

[Ilsa]

66. "Get married young." Is there a catalog where I can

order an Eastern European hunky scientist who is wealthy and kind? Or are we supposed to marry the first incel that shows up at our door?

[Crowman2009]

38. He'll be forgotten and tossed aside by the right-wing in the same way as Rush Limbaugh a year from now.

[EnergizedLib]

43. I seriously worry this cost us midterms

[Crowman2009]

45. Well his horrendous quotes aren't going away.

When the general public reads more, they'll be glad he's gone. I highly doubt some alt-right small-face bigoted jackass is going to affect the midterms.

[EnergizedLib]

46. If that were true

Maybe we wouldn't be living with the cancer of MAGA penetrated onto us.

[ReRe]

50. ??? Mi no comprende.

Karma is real, and it has nothing to do with politics.

[thomski64]

72. ..you gotta give Mount Rushbo credit...

4 and half years totally drug free..

[chouchou]

42. What a disgusting life-form.

[ReRe]

44. K&R

If you don't have empathy, you don't have nothing. Period.

[EnergizedLib]

49. Have you noticed America's greatness since we abandoned empathy?

Because I sure haven’t.

[ReRe]

55. Not since the beginning of THIS God-forsaken Administration!

Don't get me started. I think "greatness" started out the door back around the time "Progress" was dumped for "Exceptionalism".

[Karasu]

65. Alas, it's a regime. They aren't governing like an "administration" in the least and haven't since Day 1. They're acting

like they think they have absolute power and have no intention of giving it up.

[ReRe]

67. Like Sara Palin used to say: "We're a rogue nation."

[mcar]

56. No one is "cheering" his death

as some on this board have claimed. But I'm not going to pretend he wasn't a vile human being.

[Aussie105]

63. 'Better off dead'. I approve of the sentiment but not the method.

Charlie had a habit of tapping into the fetid thinking in some human brains and both amplified and legitimized that thinking.

There must be a better way to short circuit people like him, but in America he got a solid platform to spew his vitriol on.

Glad he is done fermenting resentment? Sure.

He was a dog that barked too loud, and someone decided to do something about it.
Kristi Noem style.

[Andy Canuck]

71. Yes, I don't approve of his murder

but just because he’s dead (no matter how it happened) doesn’t erase his hateful, violent , fascist life.

[Exp]

76. This.

[roamer65]

77. Bubblehead thought he was exempt from gun deaths.

Looks like he was actually wrong.

[Nimble_Idea]

78. still believe in no gun violence

may he live on with the release of the Epstein files.

[Emile]

79. Sounds like he preached hateful propaganda.

[Joinfortmill]

85. I'm with you..

Kirk was murdered, that was a crime, but let's keep in mind Kirk espoused hatred.

[Lokee11]

87. BYE CHARLES -

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Won't miss ya a bit!

FAFO

FDT!

[Progressive dog]

92. Remembering him as he wanted to be remembered.

Nothing wrong with that.

[Raster]

93. Good riddance.

[Torchlight]

94. Expressing the convictions, proudly held by the deceased, seems most appropriate in this venue.

Though I'm guessing more than a few snowflakes will be triggered, and cry 'VERY UNFAIR!!!' upon the public seeing his standards and beliefs listed.