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yellow dahlia

(6,484 posts)
Wed Sep 10, 2025, 09:55 PM Sep 2025

Maybe it was a false flag. Just too convenient. This just appeared on the Alternet.

Written by Carl Gibson
September 10, 2025 | 09:31PM ET

'Find each and every one': Trump pledges crackdown on 'radical left political violence'

In a video address to the nation posted to his Truth Social account, President Donald Trump pledged a massive crackdown on "radical left political violence" in the wake of the killing of far-right activist Charlie Kirk.

Even though the gunman responsible for Kirk's death on a Utah college campus remains at large and the motive remains unknown, Trump insisted that the "radical left" was behind the shooting.

/snip/

"My administration will find each and every one of those who contributed to this atrocity and to other political violence, including the organizations that fund it and support it, as well as those who go after our judges, law enforcement officials and everyone else who brings order to our country," said Trump, who has so far not addressed the pattern of MAGA activists threatening federal judges".

"Radical left political violence has hurt too many innocent people and taken too many lives," he added.

/snip/


Here is the full article:
https://www.alternet.org/trump-crackdown-radical-left/
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Maybe it was a false flag. Just too convenient. This just appeared on the Alternet. (Original Post) yellow dahlia Sep 2025 OP
sure had a quick response did he not nt msongs Sep 2025 #1
If it wasn't a false flag.... yellow dahlia Sep 2025 #3
A day before 9/11 usonian Sep 2025 #35
Yup. SheltieLover Sep 2025 #5
He doth protest too much SheltieLover Sep 2025 #2
Indeed. yellow dahlia Sep 2025 #7
Hiya! SheltieLover Sep 2025 #11
Back atcha! yellow dahlia Sep 2025 #12
I didn't want to post it, just think it, gab13by13 Sep 2025 #4
Yes he did. yellow dahlia Sep 2025 #8
Read this SheltieLover Sep 2025 #9
There's more to this than at first glance. yellow dahlia Sep 2025 #14
Absofuckingloutely! SheltieLover Sep 2025 #15
He Was Too Young... DET Sep 2025 #17
No idea. I was citing a kennedy's post SheltieLover Sep 2025 #47
Wanted to be the R candidate for what in 2024? Wasn't he 31? Not old enough to be POTUS Attilatheblond Sep 2025 #30
No idea. I was citing a kennedy's post SheltieLover Sep 2025 #46
It boggles the mind! Attilatheblond Sep 2025 #56
It sure does! SheltieLover Sep 2025 #58
He backed off on that, said he didn't want to talk about it anymore. Bev54 Sep 2025 #32
Like his massive crackdown on radical right political violence after killing of Democratic Minnesota elected politicians Bernardo de La Paz Sep 2025 #6
You noticed... yellow dahlia Sep 2025 #10
One thing which is believable about a conspiracy theory of that sort is the part where RockRaven Sep 2025 #13
Kills three birds w/ one stone. yellow dahlia Sep 2025 #16
Martial law anyone? chicoescuela Sep 2025 #20
Exactly! yellow dahlia Sep 2025 #22
Yup canetoad Sep 2025 #36
Can he name one radical left gunman who shot up a school full of kids? Bayard Sep 2025 #18
The false flag is the one flying over the White House. RedWhiteBlueIsRacist Sep 2025 #19
Does the USA JBTaurus83 Sep 2025 #21
Good point yellow dahlia Sep 2025 #23
So Kirk is alive? Fiendish Thingy Sep 2025 #24
I haven't seen any reports that he is alive. yellow dahlia Sep 2025 #25
Well you suggested it was a "false flag" Fiendish Thingy Sep 2025 #33
And, at present, Charlie Kirk is dead. Abolishinist Sep 2025 #42
The idiot russian agent orange who destroyed order in this country now wants to bring it back, good luck sucker ImNotGod Sep 2025 #26
Thank you. H2O Man Sep 2025 #27
However ...... H2O Man Sep 2025 #29
Almost by definition. PurgedVoter Sep 2025 #61
No. We just live in a very polarizing country where access to firearms is really easy - especially in a state like Utah. Feel Good Inc Sep 2025 #28
Fuck you Asshole Traitor! We know how you Kill Cha Sep 2025 #31
Same thoughts myself canetoad Sep 2025 #34
Who is "Mr. X" This Time? MrWowWow Sep 2025 #37
It certainly got Epstein out off the front page. The media acting as if it's the Challenger Disaster is concerning. AStern Sep 2025 #38
If the vote on releasing the Epstein files had gone the other way, it would have been huge, so a diversion was needed Doodley Sep 2025 #39
Maybe it was little green men from Mars? tritsofme Sep 2025 #40
until shown otherwise, the shooter was a rightwinger ecstatic Sep 2025 #41
Response from the Oval Office: Rhiannon12866 Sep 2025 #43
We have no idea what the shooter's motivation was iemanja Sep 2025 #44
and everyone else who brings order to our country? Justice matters. Sep 2025 #45
Looking at this from the outside DFW Sep 2025 #48
I think it's likely that this was not politically motivated Buckeyeblue Sep 2025 #57
Mr. Dahlia and I were just making some of the same points. yellow dahlia Sep 2025 #60
I think the Black Bloc did it Charmin One Sep 2025 #49
Fascists believe they have a reason to hate even more. Emile Sep 2025 #50
I think he was supposed to be winged, ala TACO's ear. marble falls Sep 2025 #51
People on the right don't realize . . . Aussie105 Sep 2025 #52
What radical left? Dave Bowman Sep 2025 #53
Oh ya know MaineBlueBear Sep 2025 #55
Turned on Morning Joe at 6am just turned it off at 720am. The single subject doc03 Sep 2025 #54
Exactly. yellow dahlia Sep 2025 #59

yellow dahlia

(6,484 posts)
3. If it wasn't a false flag....
Wed Sep 10, 2025, 09:59 PM
Sep 2025

still don't let an opportunity born of "tragedy" pass you by.

gab13by13

(32,789 posts)
4. I didn't want to post it, just think it,
Wed Sep 10, 2025, 09:59 PM
Sep 2025

I hope there isn't another Lee Harvey Oswald out there, or will they just claim the shooter was a left wing extremist?

Didn't Kirk also want the Epstein files released?

SheltieLover

(81,720 posts)
47. No idea. I was citing a kennedy's post
Thu Sep 11, 2025, 05:24 AM
Sep 2025

About something they'd seen on oan.

Clueless here. I didn't even know who kirk was until all this happened.

Attilatheblond

(9,249 posts)
30. Wanted to be the R candidate for what in 2024? Wasn't he 31? Not old enough to be POTUS
Wed Sep 10, 2025, 11:37 PM
Sep 2025

Is Kennedy high again?

SheltieLover

(81,720 posts)
46. No idea. I was citing a kennedy's post
Thu Sep 11, 2025, 05:22 AM
Sep 2025

& I believe they were talking about what they saw on OAN, so...

Attilatheblond

(9,249 posts)
56. It boggles the mind!
Thu Sep 11, 2025, 09:08 AM
Sep 2025

And we all have to jump thru hoops, clog our doctors' offices to get a 'script for Covid jab because a crazy man is running HHS.

Hi back at ya, SheltieLover! Some days, seeing you here is the only saving grace.

Bernardo de La Paz

(60,320 posts)
6. Like his massive crackdown on radical right political violence after killing of Democratic Minnesota elected politicians
Wed Sep 10, 2025, 10:00 PM
Sep 2025

RockRaven

(19,754 posts)
13. One thing which is believable about a conspiracy theory of that sort is the part where
Wed Sep 10, 2025, 10:03 PM
Sep 2025

Kirk is chosen as expendable by TPTB.

yellow dahlia

(6,484 posts)
16. Kills three birds w/ one stone.
Wed Sep 10, 2025, 10:06 PM
Sep 2025

Steals the narrative.

Eliminates him as a foil re: Epstein and other things.

Sets up the excuse to go after the supposed radical left.

Fiendish Thingy

(24,088 posts)
33. Well you suggested it was a "false flag"
Wed Sep 10, 2025, 11:48 PM
Sep 2025

Are you suggesting it was an internal MAGA hit job to sacrifice Kirk for the good of the MAGA cause?

Kooky.

Abolishinist

(3,053 posts)
42. And, at present, Charlie Kirk is dead.
Thu Sep 11, 2025, 12:32 AM
Sep 2025

I'm implying, simply that, at present, Charlie Kirk is not alive.





ImNotGod

(1,217 posts)
26. The idiot russian agent orange who destroyed order in this country now wants to bring it back, good luck sucker
Wed Sep 10, 2025, 11:17 PM
Sep 2025

you unleashed a monster just like the supreme fascist court did.

H2O Man

(79,257 posts)
27. Thank you.
Wed Sep 10, 2025, 11:22 PM
Sep 2025

It might turn out to be a "leftist," though the maga definition of "left" is rather inclusive, with moderates who disagree with the president being so identified. It might be a tall person, or a short person. They may like country music, or possible rock. We do not know. It might even be a foreign mechanic killing three birds with one shot.

PurgedVoter

(2,721 posts)
61. Almost by definition.
Thu Sep 11, 2025, 12:03 PM
Sep 2025

I agree that that is what they will say if it is a young white republican, but I would argue that anyone who is a young white republican is far enough on a spectrum to be called mentally ill.

 

Feel Good Inc

(66 posts)
28. No. We just live in a very polarizing country where access to firearms is really easy - especially in a state like Utah.
Wed Sep 10, 2025, 11:24 PM
Sep 2025

We're also a country that does not prioritize mental health and fetishizes guns. Honestly, I am surprised this didn't happen earlier.

Cha

(320,591 posts)
31. Fuck you Asshole Traitor! We know how you Kill
Wed Sep 10, 2025, 11:40 PM
Sep 2025

People Without Any Fucking Evidence.

Fucking Asshole

canetoad

(21,029 posts)
34. Same thoughts myself
Wed Sep 10, 2025, 11:51 PM
Sep 2025

It must have been disappointing not to have riots in Chicago, so Charlie needed to go?

AStern

(918 posts)
38. It certainly got Epstein out off the front page. The media acting as if it's the Challenger Disaster is concerning.
Thu Sep 11, 2025, 12:04 AM
Sep 2025

nt

Doodley

(12,079 posts)
39. If the vote on releasing the Epstein files had gone the other way, it would have been huge, so a diversion was needed
Thu Sep 11, 2025, 12:18 AM
Sep 2025

ecstatic

(35,135 posts)
41. until shown otherwise, the shooter was a rightwinger
Thu Sep 11, 2025, 12:21 AM
Sep 2025

If we had the leftwing radicals that trump keeps insisting we have, things would be very different in this country.

iemanja

(57,780 posts)
44. We have no idea what the shooter's motivation was
Thu Sep 11, 2025, 12:48 AM
Sep 2025

and we won’t unless he’s apprehended or identified. That Trump and the MAGAs are blaming the left is just what they do. Saying it’s a false flag assumes a motivation to counter. We have to know the motivation before dreaming up alternate scenarios.

Justice matters.

(10,084 posts)
45. and everyone else who brings order to our country?
Thu Sep 11, 2025, 02:08 AM
Sep 2025

Pedo Felon wants to crackdown on everyone "who brings order"

Sure does all he can for that. Look at the "disorder" everywhere...

DFW

(60,437 posts)
48. Looking at this from the outside
Thu Sep 11, 2025, 06:06 AM
Sep 2025

Although this guy Kirk was preaching to a substantial choir, at the end of the day, that’s all he was preaching. With hate rhetoric as thick as his, it’s rather obvious he was stirring up a frenzy among his own followers for his own benefit. We have a few people like that, but they don’t go around preaching righteous violence like the radical right does. There are control freaks, and then there are control freaks. The more powerful and influential a control freak gets, the more jealousy builds up within the movement’s own ranks (I’m thinking Trotsky vs. Stalin as an example). The American radical right is the gun-worshipping crowd in America, not the left. Sure, plenty of us own guns. The number of us that worship those guns or have basements stocked with dozens of them and a thousand rounds of ammunition are practically zero.

The extremist right wants to find a perp among the ranks of the left, but NOT because they really expect to find him there. Frankly, despite his noise, I wouldn’t honor him with having been worth the effort. This hit was well-planned, and the getaway flawless (so far, anyway). This sounds like someone is setting some up to take the fall because the people who set it up do NOT want the shooter found alive. He might have some stories to tell that a few Trumpanzees do not want told publicly.

Of course, I could be wrong anout all this, and it was just some highly intelligent, well armed 19 year old in a Che Guevara T-shirt. But it just doesn’t smell like it.

Buckeyeblue

(6,439 posts)
57. I think it's likely that this was not politically motivated
Thu Sep 11, 2025, 09:10 AM
Sep 2025

I agree with those who say that this murder seems professionally done. It's more like a hit. The person or persons who orchestrated this have Kirk's rhetoric as a cover. I'm guessing this is going to end up being about money. Who all was he in bed with?

yellow dahlia

(6,484 posts)
60. Mr. Dahlia and I were just making some of the same points.
Thu Sep 11, 2025, 11:48 AM
Sep 2025

Well executed.

A set up to blame the left.

Will the perp be found? And if found will he be alive? I doubt it.

The left are not the radicals.

Who benefits?

Charmin One

(385 posts)
49. I think the Black Bloc did it
Thu Sep 11, 2025, 06:15 AM
Sep 2025

The shooter was wearing all black. His head might have been covered too.

Emile

(43,278 posts)
50. Fascists believe they have a reason to hate even more.
Thu Sep 11, 2025, 06:42 AM
Sep 2025

Always playing the victim, just like their dear leader.

Aussie105

(8,180 posts)
52. People on the right don't realize . . .
Thu Sep 11, 2025, 07:05 AM
Sep 2025

that some of their extremist rhetoric is considered immoral and destructive of American values.
And someone or a group of people are prepared to take extreme measures to voice their horror.
(Remind you of any current popular TV shows and films? I can name quite a few!)

Assuming there will be no backlash now and down the track is just stupid.
Donald, take notice!

This incident transcends politics.

MaineBlueBear

(457 posts)
55. Oh ya know
Thu Sep 11, 2025, 07:30 AM
Sep 2025

People that want clean air, water, food, and healthcare, education, and a social safety net for all.

Radicals...

doc03

(39,184 posts)
54. Turned on Morning Joe at 6am just turned it off at 720am. The single subject
Thu Sep 11, 2025, 07:25 AM
Sep 2025

has been Charlie Kirk. I haven't heard about Epstein or the Russian attack on Poland. It
may not be a false flag but it is sure working as another shiny object for the news media to chase.

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