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Not usually big on conspiracies, but if Kirk's killer was hired, do you think they'll do a Lee Harvey Oswald on..... (Original Post) FadedMullet Sep 2025 OP
Oh, that dude is never saying another word, in fact I'd wager he's already dead. AZJonnie Sep 2025 #1
key word, NEVER will be found. Nimble_Idea Sep 2025 #3
We're thinking along the same lines generally AZJonnie Sep 2025 #4
I think so also. Trump was proud of it. He bragged in his ads. LiberalArkie Sep 2025 #10
My CT is that, at this hour . . . John1956PA Sep 2025 #2
Good as any CT and yours has Cha Sep 2025 #6
:clink: go the glasses of vodka. John1956PA Sep 2025 #7
Nostrovia, comrade. Cha Sep 2025 #8
Da. You bring out the Belorussian genes I inherited from my grandmother. John1956PA Sep 2025 #9
Y'all are too much. 🤭 littlemissmartypants Sep 2025 #11
Kirk is the kind of guy Putin would pay to run his nasty disruptive mouth. Irish_Dem Sep 2025 #13
Maybe it was Kirk's joining the call to release the Epstein files. John1956PA Sep 2025 #14
You raise good points. Irish_Dem Sep 2025 #15
Yes. You suggest a good line of thought. John1956PA Sep 2025 #17
Putin hates it when his operatives lose focus and are undisciplined. Irish_Dem Sep 2025 #19
I watched the live stream of the victims' press conference. John1956PA Sep 2025 #22
You are a far better person than I am. Irish_Dem Sep 2025 #23
I think it's pretty simple. She's angling to run for POTUS. yourout Sep 2025 #32
Here I was thinking maybe she got herself into detox and rehab for her drug abuse. Irish_Dem Sep 2025 #33
Israel and Netanyahu Blue Full Moon Sep 2025 #21
Kirk double crossed them on Israel and Epstein. Irish_Dem Sep 2025 #24
Mob boss to the end. Blue Full Moon Sep 2025 #27
We have quite a few mob bosses running the US and world right now. Irish_Dem Sep 2025 #34
Kirk was in the talking lap dog category of the conservative tools haele Sep 2025 #30
First rule of assassination... kill the assassin. Norrrm Sep 2025 #5
Who hired the killer? What was the motive? Irish_Dem Sep 2025 #12
Easy pickings and high profile? 58Sunliner Sep 2025 #18
The wife did kerouac2 Sep 2025 #29
Like JD Vance. They have to be terrible husbands. Irish_Dem Sep 2025 #31
Oswald wasnt hired either. Callie1979 Sep 2025 #16
More likely just INSPIRED? CK was spewer of awful, this d00d was asking for trouble. Brainfodder Sep 2025 #20
200 yards is a pretty incredible shot Johnny2X2X Sep 2025 #25
What if this shooter got confused and shot the wrong guy? GreenWave Sep 2025 #26
Oldest trick in the book attack yourself and say your enemy did it. Blue Full Moon Sep 2025 #28

AZJonnie

(4,024 posts)
1. Oh, that dude is never saying another word, in fact I'd wager he's already dead.
Thu Sep 11, 2025, 04:23 AM
Sep 2025

And I won't be surprised if the public are never even told who he was. Or at least, not honestly.

 

Nimble_Idea

(2,849 posts)
3. key word, NEVER will be found.
Thu Sep 11, 2025, 04:35 AM
Sep 2025

How else will THEY be able to keep insinuating that it was someone from the LEFT who did it?? lol

imagine, the anti-gun, anti-violence side being accused of this. In the most non-minority locations in the whole country.

This shooter, WILL NEVER BE FOUND, because that is what they need to keep the EPSTEIN FILES buried.
These people are the sickest fucks.

AZJonnie

(4,024 posts)
4. We're thinking along the same lines generally
Thu Sep 11, 2025, 04:49 AM
Sep 2025

However I think Epstein is something of a false flag, as I shared in a reply to you in a different thread

LiberalArkie

(19,918 posts)
10. I think so also. Trump was proud of it. He bragged in his ads.
Thu Sep 11, 2025, 05:41 AM
Sep 2025

They let you grab them by their parts. That kind of over the top macho macho man talk got him elected. The whole Epstein thing is only about protecting the .005%ers that are in it.

John1956PA

(5,119 posts)
2. My CT is that, at this hour . . .
Thu Sep 11, 2025, 04:24 AM
Sep 2025

. . . (which is the 11:00 AM hour in Moscow), the hitman is at the Kremlin, enjoying lunch with Putin.

Irish_Dem

(82,344 posts)
13. Kirk is the kind of guy Putin would pay to run his nasty disruptive mouth.
Thu Sep 11, 2025, 05:53 AM
Sep 2025

Create division, chaos, disruption promoting US Civil War.

Why would Putin kill him?

Of course if you work for Putin, he doesn't need an excuse to kill you.

John1956PA

(5,119 posts)
14. Maybe it was Kirk's joining the call to release the Epstein files.
Thu Sep 11, 2025, 06:16 AM
Sep 2025

Also, a false flag killer gets the MAGAs up in arms. Creating a martyr to the cause is an old Russian/Chinese strategy.

Regardless, Kirk already served his purpose by helping Trump get elected in 2016 and again in 2024. He became expendable to Putin"s plans. Also, Kirk's foray into Asia was muddying the waters for the Putin-Xi-Un axis. It was time to get that amateur out of the way.

Just my fanciful CT.

Irish_Dem

(82,344 posts)
15. You raise good points.
Thu Sep 11, 2025, 06:24 AM
Sep 2025

Kirk had outlived his usefulness to the PutinTrump regime.
He moved into dangerous territory with the Epstein and Asia issues.

Also serves as a message to other Putin MAGA assets.
Don't stray off the reservation or it is curtains for you.

John1956PA

(5,119 posts)
17. Yes. You suggest a good line of thought.
Thu Sep 11, 2025, 06:32 AM
Sep 2025

Kirk was straying out of his lane by advocating a softer view toward Gaza. He was getting to be all over the map, figuratively and literally. He was defying orders which had been issued to him.

Irish_Dem

(82,344 posts)
19. Putin hates it when his operatives lose focus and are undisciplined.
Thu Sep 11, 2025, 06:35 AM
Sep 2025

Have you heard Marge Taylor Green recently?
She is also all over the map.
Actually talking like a reasonable human being about the Epstein files and victims.

In Moscow when Putin's people get wobbly it is time for a purge.

John1956PA

(5,119 posts)
22. I watched the live stream of the victims' press conference.
Thu Sep 11, 2025, 07:47 AM
Sep 2025

MTG presented herself well. I hope she is sincere and that she is not putting on a dog and pony show. For now, I will give her the benefit of the doubt.

Irish_Dem

(82,344 posts)
23. You are a far better person than I am.
Thu Sep 11, 2025, 08:29 AM
Sep 2025

I don’t trust Marge and her drug addled brain any further than I can throw her.

I know she has an angle.
I Just don’t know what it is yet.

yourout

(8,874 posts)
32. I think it's pretty simple. She's angling to run for POTUS.
Thu Sep 11, 2025, 09:24 AM
Sep 2025

Trying to position herself pull more of the female vote.

Irish_Dem

(82,344 posts)
33. Here I was thinking maybe she got herself into detox and rehab for her drug abuse.
Thu Sep 11, 2025, 09:28 AM
Sep 2025

But that would not make her a good person.
Just a sober one.

It's not like Marge to be logical and follow good advice.
So something is still off about her.

Blue Full Moon

(3,651 posts)
21. Israel and Netanyahu
Thu Sep 11, 2025, 07:32 AM
Sep 2025

Infowars/Alex Jones's show
Harrison Smith posted about a month ago that Charlie Kirk was afraid that Israel would kill him if he criticized them, and doubled down on that post today. Kirk was pushing for the release of the Epstein files. Netanyahu is tied to Epstein.

haele

(15,595 posts)
30. Kirk was in the talking lap dog category of the conservative tools
Thu Sep 11, 2025, 09:03 AM
Sep 2025

An easily replaceable influencer, and starting to age out of the target audience - young, middle classes/better off aimless or spoiled college kids - he was equipped to go after.

His rhetoric didn't really hold up once his audience started having to leave their bubbles and experience the Real World. Raising real kids, paying bills, dealing with customer or employer demographics has a way of teaching flexibility that doesn't jibe with absolutist, autocratic philosophies.

Kirk was becoming expendable. So he could be easy to throw away, there's always some other young conservative that could replace him.

Irish_Dem

(82,344 posts)
12. Who hired the killer? What was the motive?
Thu Sep 11, 2025, 05:51 AM
Sep 2025

There are many loud mouth disrupters on the right.
Why kill Kirk?

kerouac2

(1,519 posts)
29. The wife did
Thu Sep 11, 2025, 08:58 AM
Sep 2025

God only knows how terrible he was behind the scenes. Who's to say his wife didn't hire someone... How's that for a CT...

Irish_Dem

(82,344 posts)
31. Like JD Vance. They have to be terrible husbands.
Thu Sep 11, 2025, 09:14 AM
Sep 2025

They hate women and spout evil hatred all day long.

Callie1979

(1,418 posts)
16. Oswald wasnt hired either.
Thu Sep 11, 2025, 06:24 AM
Sep 2025

And the 1000s of pages released about the Kennedy murder dont prove anything other than Oswald shot him.

Brainfodder

(7,781 posts)
20. More likely just INSPIRED? CK was spewer of awful, this d00d was asking for trouble.
Thu Sep 11, 2025, 07:26 AM
Sep 2025

Sometimes you do get what you are looking for?

Though some are talking him up too much, like he deserves consideration for St.
Meanwhile thought he was auditioning to be the next Rush or something?

Johnny2X2X

(24,437 posts)
25. 200 yards is a pretty incredible shot
Thu Sep 11, 2025, 08:43 AM
Sep 2025

People watch a lot of movies and think that's not that impressive when you've got movies talking about 1000 yard shots on the regular. But 200 yards is an impressive shot for a near head shot. Deer hunters will talk about making 100 yard shots all the time, but they're usually from a tree stand and more like 50 yards.

The thing about 200 yards is you're far enough away that no one is going to think to look, mostly people heard a shot and are looking in their general vicinity, but 200 yards is a few blocks away. The coming investigation will reveal how skilled this shooter was or wasn't. Did they disassemble their gun and change clothes on the way out of the building they were on? Did they scout cameras before hand? What was their escape plan? Could be some amateur who just hit a lucky shot in lucky conditions, but I would lean towards someone with sniper training.

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