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Things he said. I am 100% diametrically opposed against each and every one. (Original Post) 634-5789 Sep 2025 OP
The planet is a better place now that he is gone. Irish_Dem Sep 2025 #1
Message auto-removed Name removed Sep 2025 #13
+1. There was not one good thing about him or his life. dalton99a Sep 2025 #16
His family might be a lot wealthier now. LiberalArkie Sep 2025 #31
The air smells cleaner N/T tonekat Sep 2025 #23
Distorted views of power, history, and his own importance. /nt bucolic_frolic Sep 2025 #2
Those are not just "political disagreements". - That is one of our problems- civil rights, human rights should not tulipsandroses Sep 2025 #3
Thanks for the compilation, I was looking for something like this. JMCKUSICK Sep 2025 #4
He was a terrible person... but killing him solves nothing and only inflames our politics LymphocyteLover Sep 2025 #5
RIght-wingers have been inflamed for 40 years. mdbl Sep 2025 #8
And more than a couple con artists/hucksters make a lot of $$ feeding the flames and selling merchandise Attilatheblond Sep 2025 #21
1,000,000% Cosmocat Sep 2025 #42
Greed + Narcissism will be the end of our beloved nation yet if we can't turn this around. Attilatheblond Sep 2025 #43
1,000,000% Cosmocat Sep 2025 #41
Evidence points to the contrary hueymahl Sep 2025 #10
what evidence? LymphocyteLover Sep 2025 #40
Post removed Post removed Sep 2025 #29
I never knew much about the guy, he sounds like another Stephen Miller. That is all doc03 Sep 2025 #6
Yeah Scott Simon was interviewing some tonekat Sep 2025 #25
I listened a bit, got disgusted and shut it off. littlemissmartypants Sep 2025 #32
Exactly like Stephen Miller. marble falls Sep 2025 #26
I don't know if he really believed all that nonsense but he was a professional troll. Rush Limbaugh 2.0 Botany Sep 2025 #7
He was a Class A jerk, a grifter and a psychopath who's being praised as an entrepreneur ... littlemissmartypants Sep 2025 #34
Kirk and others like him use toxic misinformation (much of Russian in origin read storm 15-16 wiki) has .... Botany Sep 2025 #39
And to think flags are being flown at half-staff for this character . . . Vinca Sep 2025 #9
Not at my house. The Inclusion Flag is going up my flag pole again. Attilatheblond Sep 2025 #22
Legacy weissmam Sep 2025 #11
A huge number of mericans agree with him kerouac2 Sep 2025 #12
77 million people JustAnotherGen Sep 2025 #38
Religious freedom should be terminated? Dr. T Sep 2025 #14
WHOA! Wait a minute... GiqueCee Sep 2025 #15
he had kids, but as a latch key kid w/ a i am sure a MAGAT paternal unit. i am damned happy he ignores my pansypoo53219 Sep 2025 #17
Yep....this is the guy we're supposed to Bettie Sep 2025 #18
He also believed... littlemissmartypants Sep 2025 #19
Would give this 1000 recs if possible! Attilatheblond Sep 2025 #27
Nailed it. Thanks, Attilatheblond. ❤️ littlemissmartypants Sep 2025 #30
Trump said Kirk was loved and admired by ALL. sop Sep 2025 #20
And the shooter could well have been one of his own. marble falls Sep 2025 #24
Pure Karma at work here.. Plain and simple MuchBetterThanThis Sep 2025 #28
When speaking of the dead... PJMcK Sep 2025 #33
Classy hueymahl Sep 2025 #44
The problem is this. valleyrogue Sep 2025 #35
If ancient early humans were all like Charlie kirk, we'd be slug-things crawling in the dirt. chouchou Sep 2025 #36
Things he won't be saying again. 2MuchNoise Sep 2025 #37
Most of that list is just racist & bigoted bullshit. Wiz Imp Sep 2025 #45

Response to Irish_Dem (Reply #1)

tulipsandroses

(8,298 posts)
3. Those are not just "political disagreements". - That is one of our problems- civil rights, human rights should not
Thu Sep 11, 2025, 07:12 AM
Sep 2025

be treated as just " a difference of opinion or political disagreements".

LymphocyteLover

(10,151 posts)
5. He was a terrible person... but killing him solves nothing and only inflames our politics
Thu Sep 11, 2025, 07:34 AM
Sep 2025

I assume everyone here understands this

Attilatheblond

(9,236 posts)
21. And more than a couple con artists/hucksters make a lot of $$ feeding the flames and selling merchandise
Thu Sep 11, 2025, 09:13 AM
Sep 2025

I am not convinced all of them even believe the crap they spew. Like Trump, who used to support DEMs and said if he ever went into politics, he would be a Republican because Republican voters are stupid.

Cosmocat

(15,469 posts)
42. 1,000,000%
Thu Sep 11, 2025, 12:37 PM
Sep 2025

Endless stream of provocateurs who saw the tens of millions of willing rubes to feed them this $hit, make big bank and make themselves celebrities ...

Attilatheblond

(9,236 posts)
43. Greed + Narcissism will be the end of our beloved nation yet if we can't turn this around.
Thu Sep 11, 2025, 12:49 PM
Sep 2025

Sadly, human nature coupled with so many lazy intellects might make it a losing battle

Cosmocat

(15,469 posts)
41. 1,000,000%
Thu Sep 11, 2025, 12:36 PM
Sep 2025

Been saying and posting this for a LONG time, going back to the 90s.

This country relentlessly indulging their nonstop victimhood and relentless obsession over the evil liberal boogyman is what got us here.

Response to LymphocyteLover (Reply #5)

doc03

(39,179 posts)
6. I never knew much about the guy, he sounds like another Stephen Miller. That is all
Thu Sep 11, 2025, 07:34 AM
Sep 2025

the news media is talking about; they may declare him a saint before the day is over.

tonekat

(2,567 posts)
25. Yeah Scott Simon was interviewing some
Thu Sep 11, 2025, 09:22 AM
Sep 2025

politician running for office in Iowa, who was enshrining him. I'm disappointed in NPR.

Botany

(77,863 posts)
7. I don't know if he really believed all that nonsense but he was a professional troll. Rush Limbaugh 2.0
Thu Sep 11, 2025, 07:55 AM
Sep 2025

Being disagreeable and causing people to be upset was his M.O..

I feel bad for his wife and kids but the World is better off without him. Sadly another Charlie Kirk
is already out there ready to take the money from rich people and the likes of the fossil fuel industries
in order to stir things up.



littlemissmartypants

(34,366 posts)
34. He was a Class A jerk, a grifter and a psychopath who's being praised as an entrepreneur ...
Thu Sep 11, 2025, 09:39 AM
Sep 2025

Please spare me. Yuck.

Botany

(77,863 posts)
39. Kirk and others like him use toxic misinformation (much of Russian in origin read storm 15-16 wiki) has ....
Thu Sep 11, 2025, 10:11 AM
Sep 2025

Last edited Thu Sep 11, 2025, 02:09 PM - Edit history (1)

… fed the minds of millions right leaning Americans who a small % of them go onto shoot those
law makers in Minnesota, storm the U.S. Capitol in an attempted coup which now looks like has
seceded, break into the home of Nancy Pelosi’s elderly husband and attack him with a hammer,
rally against proven medical science, and on and on. Where I am sitting right now less than 2
miles is Ohio State University’s Institute of Polar Studies which has literally millions of scientificialy,
proven data points proving global warming but people like Kirk, the GOP, Fox News, the Fossil Fuel
Industries, and so on have been such malignant mental cancers that people are willing to deny the
reality of science and attack education and knowledge. The world is a better place without him.

weissmam

(910 posts)
11. Legacy
Thu Sep 11, 2025, 08:09 AM
Sep 2025

Remember Rush Limbaugh , in another year or so , the answer will be Rush who

Same with Mr. Charlie Kirk , Charlie who. That will be his legacy , he will be forgotten

kerouac2

(1,519 posts)
12. A huge number of mericans agree with him
Thu Sep 11, 2025, 08:19 AM
Sep 2025

While we may see these statements as abhorrent, I dare say a large percentage of our population agree with much of it. It is why he was popular...

Question is, will he/gop gain or lose supporters when more people learn about what he said?

JustAnotherGen

(38,109 posts)
38. 77 million people
Thu Sep 11, 2025, 09:57 AM
Sep 2025

Proved they agreed with him last November. They sometimes identify themselves by saying "I didn't vote for this" when they realize the Kirks of this world were talking about them.

Dr. T

(714 posts)
14. Religious freedom should be terminated?
Thu Sep 11, 2025, 08:25 AM
Sep 2025

And replaced it with what? The Church of England? America fought a war against state-sponsored religion. It's called the American Revolutionary War.

GiqueCee

(4,736 posts)
15. WHOA! Wait a minute...
Thu Sep 11, 2025, 08:35 AM
Sep 2025

... Republicans expect decent people to mourn the death of this unspeakably evil little asshole, who contributed nothing of value to the world, or the gene pool? I don't think so.
The Sun shines a little brighter, and the air smells a little fresher, now that the we're relieved of his presence.
Too harsh? No expletive in any language is sufficiently vile to adequately describe what an absolute monster that creature known as Charlie Kirk delighted in proving himself to be.

pansypoo53219

(23,170 posts)
17. he had kids, but as a latch key kid w/ a i am sure a MAGAT paternal unit. i am damned happy he ignores my
Thu Sep 11, 2025, 08:46 AM
Sep 2025

existance. kids better off.

Bettie

(19,876 posts)
18. Yep....this is the guy we're supposed to
Thu Sep 11, 2025, 08:51 AM
Sep 2025

feel sad about.

I can't. I don't.

NOTE: I am not saying that whoever shot him is a hero or that it is acceptable. I am saying that his death doesn't make the world worse.

littlemissmartypants

(34,366 posts)
19. He also believed...
Thu Sep 11, 2025, 09:03 AM
Sep 2025

That colleges and universities are "hotbeds of totalitarianism." That's why he made his focus high school and college campuses.

He was praised for being an "entrepreneur" and capitalizing on the untapped college campus market.

I heard this on NPR this morning.

He made millions selling his ideas.

Just another grifting psychopath. Made in the image of his MAGA savior.

Charlie Kirk Net Worth: How the Trump Ally and Activist Became a Millionaire

Edited by: Rounak Bagchi

Updated Sep 11, 2025, 02:39 IST

Kirk’s salary rose from $27,000 in 2016 to more than $407,000 by 2021 and his personal holdings now include three high-end homes
Snip...
At just 31, Charlie Kirk has amassed an estimated net worth of $12 million. The chief executive and co-founder of Turning Point USA, Kirk has transformed a small campus-based project into one of the most prominent organizations in conservative politics. And, along the way, he has also secured a lifestyle that includes a Spanish-style mansion, luxury travel and multiple seven-figure properties, according to a report by news agency Associated Press.
Snip
https://www.timesnownews.com/world/us/us-news/charlie-kirk-net-worth-utah-university-uvu-shooting-article-152762107


Characteristics of Psychopaths

1. Aggressive, callous, and cunning
2. Complete absence of conscience and empathy
3. Very adept at manipulating others
4. Willingness to engage in immoral, criminal conduct
5. Willingness to take what they want and do as they please, regardless of who is hurt or wronged
6. Deceptive ability to appear outwardly benevolent
7. Deceptive ability to behave in superficially charming ways to hide purely selfish motives
8. Willingness to use intimidation and violence to control others in order to satisfy their own needs
9. Willingness to intentionally violate the basic inherent human rights of others
10. Complete absence of any sense of guilt or remorse for the harm their actions have caused to others
11. Rationalization of their own immoral behavior
12. Will attempt to lay blame upon someone else for their own conduct
13. Denial, will deny their own wrongdoing outright
14. Utter contemptuousness toward the feelings and desires of their fellow beings
15. Pathological lying, will say anything without any concern for truth to advance their own hidden agendas
16. Ablity to feign [fake] normal human emotions and empathy
17. Distorted sense of the consequences of their actions
18. Total failure to accept any responsibility for their own socially irresponsible ways
19. Strong bellef that they will never be brought to justice for their criminal behavior


Turning Point USA Demographics

Turning Point USA (TPUSA) is a prominent American nonprofit organization that advocates for conservative politics, particularly on high school and college campuses. Founded in 2012 by Charlie Kirk and Bill Montgomery, TPUSA has grown rapidly and is recognized as one of the largest conservative youth activist organizations in the country. As of 2025, TPUSA's demographic profile primarily includes young people, particularly those aged 18 to 24. The organization has been credited with shifting the political leanings of younger voters, especially among men in this age group. Recent polls indicate that approximately 26% of men aged 18-24 identify as conservative, a notable increase compared to previous generations. This demographic shift is significant, as it contrasts with the trend of younger voters leaning left in prior decades.

Events and Engagement and Ideological Focus

TPUSA hosts various events aimed at mobilizing young conservatives, such as the annual AmericaFest, which attracted around 21,000 attendees in 2024. These events often feature high-profile speakers, including former President Donald Trump, and serve as platforms for networking and activism among conservative youth. The organization emphasizes themes of freedom, free markets, and limited government. It also engages in initiatives like the Professor Watchlist, which targets educators perceived to promote leftist ideologies. TPUSA's approach has drawn both support and criticism, with some viewing it as a vital force for conservative activism, while others criticize its tactics and rhetoric.

Recent Developments

The organization has faced challenges, including the tragic death of its founder, Charlie Kirk, in September 2025, which has sparked discussions about its future direction and influence in conservative politics. Overall, TPUSA's demographic is characterized by a youthful, predominantly male base that is increasingly identifying with conservative values, reflecting a significant shift in the political landscape among younger Americans. ...
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turning_Point_USA
https://www.axios.com/2025/09/11/charlie-kirk-turning-point-usa


Attilatheblond

(9,236 posts)
27. Would give this 1000 recs if possible!
Thu Sep 11, 2025, 09:24 AM
Sep 2025

He was another con man, cashing in on the reality that there is a certain % of the population that is dim and willing to throw money at anybody who makes them feel justified in their ignorance and bigotry. He watched Bannon, Trump, and the likes; figured they are old and someone will need to fill their shoes, collect the money from the rubes.

We have no idea if he actually believed the garbage he pushed. Con artists gotta con.

sop

(19,307 posts)
20. Trump said Kirk was loved and admired by ALL.
Thu Sep 11, 2025, 09:10 AM
Sep 2025

"No one understood or had the Heart of the Youth in the United States of America better than Charlie. He was loved and admired by ALL, especially me, and now, he is no longer with us." - Trump

At least one guy with a gun didn't love and admire Charlie.

PJMcK

(25,126 posts)
33. When speaking of the dead...
Thu Sep 11, 2025, 09:39 AM
Sep 2025

… I was taught to say only good of the deceased.

Charlie Kirk is dead.

Good.

valleyrogue

(2,795 posts)
35. The problem is this.
Thu Sep 11, 2025, 09:43 AM
Sep 2025

There are 100 or 200 people who will step in line to replace him. Grifters for the billionaire class are interchangeable parts.

Yes, Kirk will be forgotten in a matter of months or a couple of years. There will be somebody else doing his dirty work that we will be talking about.

chouchou

(3,307 posts)
36. If ancient early humans were all like Charlie kirk, we'd be slug-things crawling in the dirt.
Thu Sep 11, 2025, 09:45 AM
Sep 2025

Nobody never would have evolved.

Wiz Imp

(10,416 posts)
45. Most of that list is just racist & bigoted bullshit.
Thu Sep 11, 2025, 08:32 PM
Sep 2025

But no one should be allowed to retire??? What???

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