Charlie Kirk is the martyr they needed

[tinrobot]

Doesn't matter who pulled the trigger or why. They will use his death as a reason to unleash all sorts of hate and violence on those who disagree with them.

I seriously hope I'm wrong.

[Hellbound Hellhound]

1. And the Left is giving them all the ammunition they want.

Look at social media; "Left wingers" doing "Bong rips for charlie", remixes of the killing shot with music on top, mocking his family and saying his kids should be killed too "Just in case". And you have the Right responding, ambushing Lefties and beating the shit out of the in the streets.

I said it once and I'll say it again. Whoever killed him just gave the Right ALL the ammo they'll ever need to start a shooting war if they want. Because Kirk isn't just American, he's an Internet personality. Right wing across all countries are rallying behind him, from Nepal to Australia to the UK to Chile. That ONE SHOT validated every right wing action in every country on Earth. And if the rumors are true that the bullets contain some sort of agenda written on them, no matter what it is, we are in for a worldwide Rightward shift even worse than we saw in 2024. I hope I'm wrong but I REALLY don't think I am.

[PSPS]

5. Settle down there, Sparky. There isn't going to be any "shooting war."

It still amazes me how anxious some people are to see their violent culture-war fantasies become a reality.

[Hellbound Hellhound]

7. I say "Shooting", but I just generally mean violence.

That said, since this shot on Kirk was quite literally a shooting, and there are people in hospitals now from right wing retaliation even if they don't involve guns, I suppose it's not a "Shooting war" yet but it's damned close.

[PatrickforB]

48. Brownshirts cracking heads in streets...oh, wait...that is Redhats doing that...n/t

[Crowman2009]

35. Reminds me of how TV westerns in the 50's got kids all gun happy.

Then they all went to Vietnam and learn the hard way on what guns really do.

[LiberalArkie]

42. Now, here now. I loved my Roy Rogers cap pistol and my Daisy BB gun

[PortTack]

50. Agree...in a few days he'll be like rush limbaugh....nobody will be talking about him.

[live love laugh]

6. Of course we know ALL social media posts are true. Republicans couldn't have planted those posts at all.

[Hellbound Hellhound]

8. When I say Social Media, I don't just mean texts. I mean videos.

From well-established people on both Tiktok and Bluesky. If these "republican plants" are suddenly flipping violent because of this by the hundreds of thousands, that's a HELL of a long con.

[live love laugh]

12. There are worse videos and comments of attacks on Democrats like Pelosi's husband. Nobody threatened Civil War for the

Incessant nastiness from the right. So you are advocating everybody on the left be muffled and careful while the right says any fucking thing they want to.

Fuck that bullshit. The right is going to use this to attack and it has nothing to fucking do with any videos from the left. It was planned. It’s their agenda quit fucking pointing fingers the wrong way.

[Crunchy Frog]

20. St. Charlie himself graced Paul Pelosi with his gentle wit after he was attacked.

[rubbersole]

30. Don Jr's post of tighty whiteys and a hammer is still the worst.

They're all complicit.

[highplainsdem]

14. I follow journalist Greg Sargent on Bluesky, as I did on Twitter. Yesterday I saw him copying

Bluesky posts, from prominent liberals condemning violence, to Twitter to show people there that not all liberals on Bluesky were celebrating Kirk's death. Unfortunately, there were replies in those Bluesky threads from people who thought Kirk got what he deserved. As people responding to Sargent on Twitter were quick to point out.

[Hellbound Hellhound]

15. Quite so. And I honestly had no real reply to those who have said "Stop pointing fingers at us!"

I'm not saying Democrats are at fault, but Democrats WILL suffer for the acts of these idiots posting moronic, grade-school bullshit.

[highplainsdem]

23. Agreed. Btw, this is what Mamdani posted yesterday on Bluesky - "I'm horrified by the shooting of

Charlie Kirk at a college event in Utah. Political violence has no place in our country." - only to be criticized by people who should be liberal - people sounding like idiots - for saying that. Yesterday I posted what Obama's response had been and heard from DUers trashing Obama.

I'm horrified by the shooting of Charlie Kirk at a college event in Utah.

Political violence has no place in our country.

— Zohran Kwame Mamdani (@zohrankmamdani.bsky.social) 2025-09-10T19:34:53.534Z

[Hellbound Hellhound]

25. Yeah. I'm not going to say Kirk was a saint,

but I will say that his assassination is a black mark. Is the world better off without him? Probably, but the world's probably going to get a HELL of a lot worse because of how he died.

[BattleRow]

33. Probably quicker,too.

[MadameButterfly]

39. He as intent on getting the Epstein Files released

We actually needed him. He would have had clout with the idiots who can't find a better reason to have a problem with Trump.

[Torchlight]

21. His own words do an even better job of that than anyone else ever could

I'm not going to pretend an excuse for violence is needed by them anymore.

[BattleRow]

32. The shot heard round the world.

[MadameButterfly]

40. Though not this, they would have found something

or created something, and still will.
If Trump wants martial law, he'll get martial law.

[usaf-vet]

37. THE MARTYR, they likely created would be my take!

[stage left]

47. That is my opinion as well.

Or at least a suspicion.

[yellow dahlia]

60. A little too convenient. n/t

[MorbidButterflyTat]

58. What makes you so sure those "Left wingers"

aren't MAGAts posting shit?

[ImNotGod]

2. fascists don't need a martyr, they can pull any crap they want without an excuse and get away with it

Spew all the vile crap they want. the only change will be a big increase in the sale of bullet proof glass shields.

[MadameButterfly]

41. Perhaps, but they do tend to make up crises to rile up their people

like Hitler and the Reichstag building. They must think they need to do it.

[Baitball Blogger]

3. You're right.

They need something to drive life into their decaying organization.

[dweller]

4. sometimes when you are dealing with zealots, they may decide martyrs are necessary...

https://cognitivedissident.substack.com/p/charlie-kirk-31-shot-dead-in-utah



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[leftstreet]

9. More like the PR infusion they needed

I'm sure I'm not alone in barely registering who this guy was before yesterday.

Now all his hate-filled shit is getting massive exposure - to people who hadn't even heard of him before

[chouchou]

10. Good post and idea but, not so sure. People have the attention span to repeat this sentence.

True, the Media will beat this horse like the Stretch in the Kentucky Derby. (What was the name of the winner last may?)
Again The Media>>>> "Look..Look! Something new is Shiny !!" ...Let's find another horse to beat..

[Botany]

11. I might be wrong for the first time in my life but this shooting does not pass my smell test.

The international criminal syndicate that was behind the Epstein/Trump/Putin child sex trafficking
operation MIGHT have something to do with the shooting of Kirk because they needed a distraction.
The shooter was a pro and more than likely he or she is out of America or in safe house by now.

Botany = +. + = Me

Note to self don’t have Portuguese red wine for lunch.

[live love laugh]

49. VERY orchestrated. The bloodlust chorus of shrill RW voices is telling.

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“The left is the party of murder.” Elon Musk, former DOGE head, Tesla CEO

“More people will be murdered if the left isn't crushed with the power of the state.” Laura Loomer, conservative activist, Trump confidant

“It's a real treat to see all these liberals condemn political violence now ... You have blood on your hands.” [i]Katie Miller, former White House staffer, wife of White House deputy chief of staff Stephen Miller

“Civil war.” Andrew Tate, British American masculinity influencer turned far right culture warrior


“This is war.” Chaya Raichik, creator of the far right account lLibs of TikTok

“The left won't stop unless it's forced to.” Darrell Cooper, far right activist and podcaster

“The goal for Republicans in the next 10 years shouldn't just be to win elections, but to destroy the Democrat party entirely and salt the earth underneath it.” William Wolfe, former Trump administration official and Christian nationalist influencer

https://www.instagram.com/share/_qyzsTM0E


Interview with Nancy Mace

Mace: “I'm gonna say this. Democrats own what happened today. I am devastated. My kids have called panicking. Every conversative around the country has called panicking. Just because you speak your mind on the issues doesn't mean you get shot.”

Reporter: “By that logic doesn't the Republican Party own the shooting of two Democratic representatives in Minnesota?”

Mace: “ARE YOU KIDDING ME? ARE YOU KIDDING ME? You don't know what condition Charlie Kirk is in right now. Some raging leftist lunatic put a bullet through his neck and you want to talk about Republicans right now? NO. No not at all. No. Democrats own this. Democrats own this. We're talking about Charlie Kirk right now. That's the subject of this that we're talking about right now. Democrats own this. 100%.

Commentary Jesse Waters, Fox

“This hits differently because Charlie was one of us. And Trump gets hit in the ear. Charlie gets shot dead. They came after Kavanaugh with a rifle to his neighborhood. They went after Musk's cars. They just shot 2 Jews outside the embassy. Think about it. Scalise got shot. Barely survived. …

They are at war with us. Whether we want to accept it or not. They are at war with us. What are we going to do about it? How much political violence are we going to tolerate? And that's the question we're just going to have to ask ourselves. Charlie would love us to put as much pressure on these people as possible.

Dana nailed it. This is unacceptable and has to stop. And it has to stop now. And everybody's accountable. And we're watching what they're saying on television and who's saying what--the politicians, the media …. This can never happen again. It ends now. This is a turning point. And we know which direction we're going.

[Botany]

54. Releasing that they had recovered the rifle and gave out the type and caliber of the weapon is really strange

I had a friend murdered 30 + years ago and since I had a key to her house and my fingerprints
were there I got to be part of the investigation and when I was ruled out as a suspect and got
to know the homicide detective he was furious that local Columbus paper printed the type of
weapon used because that information is never supposed to be released until after an arrest
and charges are made.

[live love laugh]

57. Leon's leading the pack trying to slither back into the inner circle.

“The left is the party of murder.” Elon Musk, former DOGE head, Tesla CEO

“More people will be murdered if the left isn't crushed with the power of the state.” Laura Loomer, conservative activist, Trump confidant

“It's a real treat to see all these liberals condemn political violence now ... You have blood on your hands.” [i]Katie Miller, former White House staffer, wife of White House deputy chief of staff Stephen Miller

“Civil war.” Andrew Tate, British American masculinity influencer turned far right culture warrior


“This is war.” Chaya Raichik, creator of the far right account lLibs of TikTok

“The left won't stop unless it's forced to.” Darrell Cooper, far right activist and podcaster

“The goal for Republicans in the next 10 years shouldn't just be to win elections, but to destroy the Democrat party entirely and salt the earth underneath it.” William Wolfe, former Trump administration official and Christian nationalist influencer

https://www.instagram.com/share/_qyzsTM0E


Interview with Nancy Mace

Mace: “I'm gonna say this. Democrats own what happened today. I am devastated. My kids have called panicking. Every conversative around the country has called panicking. Just because you speak your mind on the issues doesn't mean you get shot.”

Reporter: “By that logic doesn't the Republican Party own the shooting of two Democratic representatives in Minnesota?”

Mace: “ARE YOU KIDDING ME? ARE YOU KIDDING ME? You don't know what condition Charlie Kirk is in right now. Some raging leftist lunatic put a bullet through his neck and you want to talk about Republicans right now? NO. No not at all. No. Democrats own this. Democrats own this. We're talking about Charlie Kirk right now. That's the subject of this that we're talking about right now. Democrats own this. 100%.

Commentary Jesse Waters, Fox

“This hits differently because Charlie was one of us. And Trump gets hit in the ear. Charlie gets shot dead. They came after Kavanaugh with a rifle to his neighborhood. They went after Musk's cars. They just shot 2 Jews outside the embassy. Think about it. Scalise got shot. Barely survived. …

They are at war with us. Whether we want to accept it or not. They are at war with us. What are we going to do about it? How much political violence are we going to tolerate? And that's the question we're just going to have to ask ourselves. Charlie would love us to put as much pressure on these people as possible.

Dana nailed it. This is unacceptable and has to stop. And it has to stop now. And everybody's accountable. And we're watching what they're saying on television and who's saying what--the politicians, the media …. This can never happen again. It ends now. This is a turning point. And we know which direction we're going.

[Botany]

59. And less then a month or two ago we have one of Trump's ICE agents saying that he was there (some US ..

… city) because of “the liberals” on tape. I smell Stephen Miller and some of those other shits all
over this shit. This was a professional hit. Although I might be wrong but I don’t think so. We are
dealing with the largest international crime syndicate in history with Musk, Trump, Theil, Putin,
Epstein, Leonard Leo and other election stealing lying shits who have had a fascist take over America
in their plans for years. They already published their plans in Project 2025and Trump is just a “show
pony” for their objectives.

Thanks for the quotes their outrage @ the democrats and liberals seem well rehearsed in
blaming them for the shooting. Kind of like a staged and phony assignation attempt in Butler,
PA.

[MrWowWow]

13. Martyrs Can Never Be Silenced

Even if you burn their bones

[debsy]

16. You are not wrong

[Martin Eden]

17. Unleashing hate and violence was Kirk's stock in trade

I don't know if he specifically advocated violence, but that is the natural consequence of hateful rhetoric.

[Mblaze]

18. They don't need an excuse

They've been unleashing hate and violence for years.

[irisblue]

19. Horst Wessel of 2025

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Horst_Wessel

[Crunchy Frog]

22. He's the American Kirov.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sergei_Kirov#Assassination

Soon they'll be naming a Ballet for him. Or whatever passes for high culture among his acolytes.

[Heidi]

24. The martyr they CREATED and INSPIRED. (nt)

[Raster]

52. I think the High Sheriffs of "The Great MAGA Cause"...

…have determined that St Charlie The Martyr has a much longer shelf life and usability factor… not to mention out of the way for the power politics of MAGAt succession to the Mango Mussolini.

[orangecrush]

26. I'm afraid you aren't wrong

Trump already announced it and they haven't even captured a suspect yet

[UTUSN]

27. K&R

[Irish_Dem]

28. I don't think they will get the mileage they want out of this death.

The MAGA cult is only loyal to the orange F wad.

[UpInArms]

29. So silly ... this guy was no Martin Luther King or

Malcom X … Bobby Kennedy or JFK …

What utter nonsense …

He was no public servant or crusader for justice …

He was a shrieking shill who was paid for by right wingers to be a mouthpiece

[QueerDuck]

34. Trump would have been a better martyr... I've heard people say.

[tornado34jh]

36. As if "he was the martyr they needed" was the only reason, they wanted to do this for years

They have wanted violence against their opponents long before Kirk bit the dust.

[Crowman2009]

38. It's more like the distraction that the Orange Assclown needed.

Gotta keep the attention away from the Epstein files somehow.

[Pacifist Patriot]

43. I'm trying to dig myself out of this thought, but I fear he's the 21st century equivalent of Ft. Sumter.

No, it's not a great analogy. It's an awful analogy. For one thing, there is no geographic divide and no alt government pitted against the U.S. government. But it sure feels way too close to the first shot in a civil war to me. I don't want to go dark, but it may take a day or two to extricate myself from these thoughts and feelings.

[Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin]

44. Their Horst Wessel

[quakerboy]

45. how about those epstein files?

[Clouds Passing]

46. My hope is that Charlie's followers will blame Dumpy because of the Epstein stuff.

Charlie was killed to shut down the Epstein talk. That makes the most sense, occam’s razor.

[rurallib]

51. just saying exactly that to my son-in-law

[MrWowWow]

53. Martyrs Can Never Be Silenced

-Even after one salts and burns their bones!

[FrankBooth]

55. Nonsense

They don't "need" anything. As always, they will make up whatever they need as they go along.

They will try to milk his death for everything it's worth, but the truth is that Charlie Kirk is a 100% creation of the RW bubble, and was an unimportant nothing burger in the real world. He will not be missed. 2 months from now he'll be forgotten in the same way Elon Musk seems to be (remember him from April?)

Anyone who is going to get riled up to commit violence against political opponents is going to do that regardless, not spurred by the loss of an insignificant troll like Kirk.

All this fear mongering, pearl clutching and tsk tsking of fellow Democrats is annoying, and pointless.

[hamsterjill]

56. Well, it was going to be somebody.

They have a plan. A step-by-step plan, and they are just at this particular step in that plan. If it hadn't been Kirk, it would have been someone else.

Democrats have done NOTHING to condone or contribute to violence. It's all Republican rhetoric. We are faced with it because they are the ones forcing it on everyone.