One thing I learned from Kirk's murder.

[NNadir]

He existed.

[NoRethugFriends]

1. Then you sure don't pay attention

[NNadir]

4. In general I'd rather pay attention to things that matter although I confess...

...as a fan of history, I have had some interest in other - more important I think - dead fascists, you know, Hitler, Mussolini, those kind of guys.

Now I have another dead fascist about whom I know.

You learn something new every day and then you die, with the special reward of not being a notable dead fascist.

[SheltieLover]

2. Same here

[BamaRefugee]

3. But wasn't finding out EXHILARATING? Like opening the Bible for the first time.

Just say "CK" every time you read the word "Jesus", and you will understand the amazing love that he spread.

[NNadir]

5. In context, yes.

[Prairie Gates]

6. Being unaware of one of the most prominent political figures in the country

is not exactly a brag on a political board.

[NNadir]

8. Really? This person was a prominent political figure?

Why is that? Could it be that perverse attention was paid to him by the right wing propaganda machine that passes for a media in this country?

Do I have to have a hunger for absorbing propaganda in order to have political sense?

I've been at DU for almost 22 years. I've read and written tens of thousands of posts. My life is involved in reading on an average of 4 to 5 hours a day. Is it possible that I missed something by not focusing attention on a little shit for brains creepy bigot?

[NoRethugFriends]

9. Yes, he was a prominent political figure

[NNadir]

11. "Was" is the operative word. In dying, and generating comments on DU, I learned all I cared to learn about the asshole.

There was a time in American history - a time through which I lived - that a person with these detestable ideas would have been ignored or consigned to the back pages to generate head shaking.

Everything I need to know about him is from what I can tell is consistent with the drivel drooling out of the mouth of the perverted orange pedophile in the White House. I really didn't need it in stereo.

If he was a "prominent" figure, it reflects very poorly on our culture, our media, and our attentions, but of course, everything in these times reflects poorly on us.

[NoRethugFriends]

13. The operative thing was that he was a prominent figure

And you were denying that he was.
And he will be for a while even though dead.

[NNadir]

14. I'm not "denying" anything. I am merely stating that the asshole was not someone I followed or gave a shit about.

Obviously there are people to whom he was important. I'm not among them. I'm not really interested in people who so think.

It's my right to not pay attention to nationally advertised assholes if I can avoid it. There are more than 8 billion people on the planet. I am not interested really in the worst of these people, or, actually, people who follow this worst of human beings.

Apparently there are people here who focused on this piece of human shit, which is their right. I'm not one of them, nor do I feel any compunction to be one of them.

To me, he's not worthy of my attention. If other people hang on his every word, either in a positive or negative light, I couldn't care less.

That he's dead strikes me as a positive development overall; and to be frank, there are intellectually deficient morally vacuous doppelgangers, the orange pedophile in the White House for instance, who I'd be happy to learn are dead. I check in expectantly for Orrex's posts every morning. When the orange pedophile appears on the TV - he's unavoidable - I change the channel. It's enough that I know who the pedophile in the White House is.

I'm against shooting people, to be sure, but if a person who believes that shooting people is fine - apparently this "famous" guy being such an example from what I've learned in the last two days - gets shot, I couldn't care less.

[GenThePerservering]

10. He was a big influence on Gen Z vote gathering

and a divisive force.

So yeah, pretty well known.

[NNadir]

12. Here come those "generations" again. And?

[CozyMystery]

21. I never heard of him until he was killed.

And so far, I am not persuaded that he was one of the most prominent political figures in the USA. Whoever provided for his security sure didn't think so, either.

And if I had known who he was, would that have made a difference to me? No. To the country? No. To the people who perhaps think the more useless info one knows, the more they care about the politics in this country? No.

[Brainfodder]

23. We outside the target audience of his maybe and certainly not looking for his brand of BS?

[ananda]

7. Same. I was barely aware of Kirk till now. However, my big lesson...

was thinking about how much less safe our society has
been for children and young adults for the last thirty
years or so...

and the way it must affect the way the brain works,
how it processes constant insecurity and fear

This means that most people under 50 must be
responding to life with their reptile brain much of
the time.

And this is what Republicans appeal to, and themselves
operate on.

That might be why so many of them can be swayed to
think and vote the wrong way.

[NNadir]

15. If I have this right, I believe the demographic most responsible...

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...for placing the ignorant, poorly educated, orange pedophile in the White House is the one to which I regret to confess I belong: Old, fat, bald, heterosexual, white men.

If this dead pig was inspiring young people to indecency and succeeding at it, it's news to me, which is not to say it wasn't happening.

All of the young people I've met through my sons, with one glaring exception, have struck me as intelligent, caring, and exceedingly decent.

[ananda]

18. I didn't say "all" younger people...

but I definitely think enough to sway in the wrong
direction due to their fear and insecurity, which
the Republicans have built into the society on
purpose.

[NNadir]

19. Well yes, I understand. Demographics is a tricky business and it...

...is exceedingly unwise to define a person based on his, her, or their presence therein.

I certainly would not want to be defined by mine.

[ananda]

20. I'm not even talking about demographics but rather society at large...

which Republicans have gamed to be extremely dangerous
for people... and many of these are more vulnerable to
being swayed to the right because of it.

[GoneOffShore]

16. Greg Olear's podcast said it best about him - Damnatio memoriae.

[NNadir]

17. Interesting term, damnatio memoriae.

I never heard it before.

Thanks for expanding my vocabulary.

[Brainfodder]

22. I ignore obvious gaslighters for profit assholes, and there are many, simply not interested.

I'd rather play Palworld and 1200 hrs later, yeah better for it!

CK was too over the top for attn IMHO and it brought him his demise by Republican, predicted it when I heard.

Now get to watch the MSM media empire try to hide it?