Official Walks Back Report on Engraved Ammunition

[RandySF]

According to a preliminary internal report circulated inside the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives, federal and local officials recovered ammunition with the rifle that appeared to be engraved with statements “expressing transgender and anti-fascist ideology.”

But a senior law enforcement official with direct knowledge of the investigation cautioned that report had not been verified by A.T.F. analysts, did not match other summaries of the evidence, and might turn out to have been misread or misinterpreted. In fast-moving investigations, such status reports are not made public because they often contain a mixture of accurate and inaccurate information.



https://www.nytimes.com/live/2025/09/11/us/charlie-kirk-shooting-news?smid=url-share#29d455a8-1b57-564e-9431-b13e1fbdb831

[Jilly_in_VA]

1. I figured it was fake

Put there by somebody with an agenda.

[Hassin Bin Sober]

9. But now it's out there and that's the point. Just like the "Tim Walz friend shot the Minnesota legislator" bullshit

[MichMan]

14. And distributed here in multiple posts

[orangecrush]

20. It was distributed

By the Wall Street Journal too.

So someone is trying to kiss Trump's ass.

[dpibel]

34. Discussing something is "distributing"?

What an odd construct.

Or can you point me to a thread here where someone is stating the allegation as fact?

[Aristus]

2. Anyone using a term like "transgender ideology" is looking to stir up trouble.

There's no such thing as "transgender ideology".

To Hell with anyone who would say so.

[maxsolomon]

16. "Transgender people should have equal rights"

That is some radical ideology right there.

[Aristus]

17. Only radical to the Charlie Kirks of the world.

One less Charlie Kirk now. I would have preferred through self-evaluation, reflection, redemption, and enlightenment than through violence. But I don't get to make those choices.

[Jilly_in_VA]

18. And anything like that on here

ought to be alerted, deleted, and the poster warned. We should not tolerate that kind of bullshit on DU.

[Torchlight]

3. It's been telling to see who picked up that ball and ran with it.

or at least tried to protect it.

[Ping Tung]

7. Was the bullet also engraved with a life size image of Trump's birthday card?

No CAPITALS!

[Klarkashton]

4. The toothpaste is out of the tube and they know it.

It will be claimed for years now.

[Bernardo de La Paz]

26. And it becomes another way for us to know who is an idiot and a gullible sucker. Throw it in their faces. . . . nt

[Traildogbob]

5. Oh...it WILL be

Engraved. Give em a minute, and the DOGE tech bros will get a Website created for him. The Dogs tail is as powerful as a 1000 pound gator, wagging the life outta that dog.

[BattleRow]

22. Perhaps the snake will be required to swallow its OWN tail..or tale?

[Traildogbob]

24. His Cankles

Will never fit through those anus lips. I guess the tail may fit into the neck vagina.

[rubbersole]

25. Ouch.

Don't hold back. 👍

[BattleRow]

37. Now,Bob,don't be shy..tell us how you really feel..lol.

[Traildogbob]

42. Ahh!

Never been shown to be shy here. 😉

[BeyondGeography]

6. I'm sure the President will calibrate his comments accordingly

[3catwoman3]

8. I had no idea that engraved ammunition was even a thing.

I find the existence of such a product really creepy.

[haele]

10. Engraved casings suggest black powder ammo to me...

Or that the shooter was someone who makes their own ammo being cute with the copper casings - or special ordered the ammo online, meaning that situation would leave a "paper trail".

The average person, even if they did hunt or was a combat vet, just won't engrave live ammo bought from a gun shop or sporting goods store. That's a recipe for losing fingers or an eye.

[Bernardo de La Paz]

28. I've read that engraving or scratching bullet casing makes each bullet unpredictable & slightly different in flight path

For a long distance shot, that makes it unlikely that a one at a time bolt-action rifle shooter could rely on the weapon system. Not likely engraved if the shooter (obviously capable amateur) wanted to be sure of the shot.

[Taylor Picker]

12. You didn't hear about Luigi Mangione?

[3catwoman3]

15. Obviously not. There's a limit to how much...

…negative news I can stand to read about.

[Bernardo de La Paz]

29. Mangione shot at very close range, not needing long distance accuracy. . . . nt

[rubbersole]

27. Probably has half the wingnuts going to the basement at their parent's house...

..to engrave their ammo with whatever Jesse Watters spews today.

[Solly Mack]

11. ...

[0rganism]

13. So, come to shut the barn door already? Shame about all those loose horses...

Intentionally irresponsible behavior putting large segments of the population at risk, ho hum, such a pity, eh? /s

[skypilot]

19. Probably won't stop the MAGA folks...

...on X from repeating this crap anyway.

Also, this sounds to me like a very deliberate "misreading"/"misinterpretation".

[FadedMullet]

21. So the NYTimes covers their ass by calling it "a fast-moving investigation". GMAFB

[LeftinOH]

23. ...and it doesn't matter; the narrative is out there now - and he nutjobs

will cling to it like flies on sh!t, even when better evidence becomes available.

[dweller]

30. Was just reported again as true

On my local ABC news

😑



✌🏻

[Lovie777]

31. Patel doesn't know what he's doing....

not the DOJ, US AG, Homeland Security, FBI all of which are totally incompetent and unqualified. Heck, the whole cabinet, administration , GQP Congress, GQP Governors and their legislators mainly on the bigly dark red states, GQP judges and justices.

But a few things the GQP excel on:

making up shit and lying.

[Bev54]

32. I also have some questions on their so called palm and forearm prints. Firstly he was wearing long sleeves

and secondly, it appears he was a pro and most likely wearing gloves or other items to not leave prints behind. He had his get away planned. I am worried some poor maintenance man is going to match those prints.

[usedtobedemgurl]

38. No, they will say the prints match Chuck Schumer!

[Fil1957]

33. Even if the "engravings" story is proven to be false, and officials confirm it to be false, the far right will always

believe the story to be true. They'll come up with a conspiracy theory stating that it's a deep state coverup.

[Autumn]

35. That they needed to muddy the waters is a big tell. Trump MAGAtes are never

going to accept anything but the ammunition appeared to be engraved with statements “expressing transgender and anti-fascist ideology.”

[Wonder Why]

36. "misread or misinterpreted". HAH! Deliberately lied like the master does is more like it.

[swong19104]

39. What exactly are

Antifascist and/or transgender ideology symbols? And how small are they to fit onto the side of a bullet? Is it this: 🏳️‍⚧️ (you gotta color it, otherwise it would make no sense)?

Is it this: ⚧️? Imagine taking the time to scratch that onto the side of a bullet.

Is it this: ☮️? Yeah, a person using a gun to advocate for peace.

[ananda]

40. They mean deliberately misread and misinterpreted.

There, fixed it.

[Iggo]

41. "Walks back" equals "Admitted it was a lie."

[Deep State Witch]

43. If A Bullet Is Engraved

Wouldn't that cause it to fire differently? Especially if it's being fired from a distance? That's another variable that the shooter would have to account for.

I know that Luigi's bullets were engraved, but he was shooting from point blank range.

[Hassler]

44. If "facts" are coming from anyone working

In Chump's Admin, assume they're lying. As in this case. We're told things that would make him happy to blame the right people, only to learn that no, this fact is not true.

[MerryBlooms]

45. Usually, if a republican's lips are moving, they're lying

[Silent Type]

46. Even if engraved into casing, it would obviously be a plant and indication of sinister plot within the white wing cult.

[eppur_se_muova]

47. Sernior law enforcement official should have added that it might be a lie. nt