Appeals court judges publicly admonish Supreme Court justices: 'We're out here flailing'

[In It to Win It]

Frustrated federal appeals court judges publicly wrestled Thursday with how to follow vague “signals” from the Supreme Court contained in tersely worded — and often unexplained — orders handed down on the justices’ emergency docket.

Some judges on the 4th Circuit Court of Appeals even questioned whether they still had a role to play or were expected, at least in some cases, to simply reiterate the high court’s orders and leave it at that.

“They’re leaving the circuit courts, the district courts out in limbo,” said Judge James Wynn, an Obama appointee, during oral arguments in a case about the Department of Government Efficiency employees’ access to Social Security data. “We’re out here flailing. … I’m not criticizing the justices. They’re using a vehicle that’s there, but they are telling us nothing. They could easily just give us direction and we would follow it.”

“They cannot get amnesia in the future because they didn’t write an opinion on it. Write an opinion,” Wynn said. “We need to understand why you did it. We judges would just love to hear your reasoning as to why you rule that way. It makes our job easier. We will follow the law. We will follow the Supreme Court, but we’d like to know what it is we are following.”

During the remarkable, 80-minute venting session Thursday at the Richmond-based court, judges openly debated how to follow the justices’ sparse guidance while fulfilling their own constitutional duty to issue detailed rulings in complex cases.

https://www.politico.com/news/2025/09/11/supreme-court-emergency-rulings-judges-00558058

[Irish_Dem]

1. Federal judges appear to be slow learners.

They have not yet figured out the US Supreme Court has sold out our democracy,
the US constitution, and the American people for cash and luxury vacations.

Hey federal judges try to keep up.

[Eliot Rosewater]

3. Our actual reality is six members of the Supreme Court

Are criminals openly ignoring the law and the constitution to further a dictatorship.

There’s not one single ounce of exaggeration in my statement.

It’s one thing to break the law, an entirely different matter to interpret it so that one group can break the law while no one else can.

[Irish_Dem]

4. Worse than criminals, they are traitors.

Yes. They are part of the PutinTrump Crime Syndicate.
Sold out their country for vacations and cash.

[Eliot Rosewater]

2. They're criminals and the last thing they concern themselves with is the law or the constitution

In creating an environment in 2016 leaving it possible for a piece of shit to win the election with the electoral college by trashing our candidate from both sides we now have a supreme court that is literally corrupted and gives not one shit about the constitution or the law and is there only to follow orders from a piece of shit.