I am under ZERO obligation to mourn Charlie Kirk.

[USS_Dauntless]

I got $10 that says these people also laughed when Melissa Hortman, her husband Mark, and their dog Gilbert were assassinated by a MAGA cult member in Minnesota.

[Polly Hennessey]

2. You are correct. I will keep my mourning and compassion for others and certainly not for Mr. Kirk.

[marble falls]

5. I morn for those he contributed to their suffering by his hateful mindset and words.

[marble falls]

3. Reminds me of something ...

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[walkingman]

4. I seriously doubt that anyone other than Trump supporters are...

I mourn for the days when we didn't have to worry about getting shot when in public or the hatred that seems so prevalent in our society. We are obviously a broken nation and it seems to be getting worse every day.

[marble falls]

6. They may mis his hate, but I doubt they mourn him much. These morons are as wraped up in themselves ...

... as he was in himself.

[Klarkashton]

7. It's a pisser that he's being treated like a saint.

He was a shitball opportunist and a hate.filled bastard..

[Marie Marie]

8. And, having learned nothing, how long before another steps in to take his place - spewing obnoxious

hatred and lies to keep fanning the flames. Maybe Ben Shapiro can step up - they even looked similar. Trump didn't start all this but he sure ramped it up to Mach I. Will we ever recover from this?

[USS_Dauntless]

13. If you have zero empathy and zero integrity,

you can make bank peddling hate and conspiracy theories.

[dalton99a]

9. Kick

[Torchlight]

10. Not many approve of how Muammar Gaddafi died, but not many approve of him either

I wonder how many unctuous lectures, variants on "be better, this makes us look bad" were handed out to those freely breathing a sigh of relief that week.

[roamer65]

11. Charlie who?

Have they released the Epstein files yet?

[Cheezoholic]

12. Neither am I. But I will mourn the devastation these fucks have done to civil discourse, shooter included n/t

[Bluetus]

14. I'd venture that 98% of Democrats could not have recognized Kirk

in a line-up before yesterday. I suppose his name was better known among the LGBT community because apparently he was a real fountain of LGBT hate speech. And maybe we will find that provoked an angry person to take matters into his or her own hands. I'm sure none of us condone any kind of political violence. We are supposed to be a nation of laws, and those laws are how we are supposed to settle our differences. When the "rule of law" no longer works, it is easy to understand how a person could decide to act on their own.

But Kirk just wasn't relevant to most Democrats. Maybe he should have been, but he wasn't. I will tell you whom he WAS relevant to. There are various factions jockeying to take over power in the post-Trump world, which may come sooner than most people think. Trump is looking and acting very bad these days. Those factions are (namely): the young Nazis (think Charlie Kirk), the billionaires and tech bros (think Musk, Theil et al), the traditional Nazis (think Bannon and Miller), the old money polluters (think Koch Industries), our national enemies (think Putin, Xi, and Kim, and the Christo-fascists (think the Heritage Foundation and the worst caricature of every teevee preacher you have ever seen.)

These are all different factions. They lined up behind Trump because he was able to give them what they wanted (Jesus in schools, all the guns we could ever want, torture of brown people, wealth beyond imagination, and the end of the NATO alliance.) But in the post-Trump world, they have very little in common. They all have strong motives for eliminating their rivals. Keep this in mind as we see events develop over the next few weeks.

And also remember that there were numerous factions that wanted John F Kennedy out of the way and 63 years later, that cover-up is still strong. We joke about Putin's enemies having trouble keeping their balance around windows in tall buildings, but American history has plenty of examples of the same things.

[marble falls]

15. And I am totally disinclined.

[Cirsium]

16. It is a bad thing for us

The Kirk murder is not a good thing for us. It is a great thing for the right wingers, and they are loving it. They are accusing us - all of us - of celebrating this, and they are vowing "revenge" against all of us, and wallowing in all sorts of violent fantasies.

We aren't celebrating his murder, and we aren't mourning it either. Kirk is far more valuable to the right wing now. They have their Horst Wessel.

[Billsdaughter]

17. Why is the MSM calling this an assassination?

Can anyone explain this?

[Wounded Bear]

18. K&R...nt

[Beacool]

19. I'm with Clarence Darrow on this one.

"I’ve never wished a man dead, but I have read some obituaries with great pleasure."

[Volaris]

20. So, i have this to offer: if its really that big an issue now, magas should be on board with firearms control laws.

IF THEYRE NOT, it tells me this is, as Mr Kirk believed, just the cost of 'doing business'.

if THATS the case, why is his gun death such a big fucking deal?

Crickets?

Ok, that's what I thought. It's ALSO how I know this is performative fake bullshit from them ALL THE WAY DOWN, so let's ignore it and release the fucking Epstien Files already.