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[doc03]

1. They always use a burner phone on the TV.

[obamanut2012]

2. He's carried phones, not that phone

[lapucelle]

3. You can see the sleeve of someone going down the stairs as the person of interest

was going up.

I wonder if he's been identified or if he has come forward.

[mike_c]

4. where's his rifle?

If this was taken before the shooting, he must already have the gun in place. That sounds pretty risky. On the other hand, if it was after the shooting wouldn't he have a rifle to abandon in the woods while he fled?

[Nixie]

8. I was wondering the same thing. Maybe it's in his shirt on his back

There looks to be a square shape like the butt of a rifle sticking up out of the left side of the shirt in picture. He probably has it slinged over his shoulder under his shirt. That’s what I’m seeing anyway.

[LeftInTX]

15. According to TMZ, in his pant legs

https://www.tmz.com/2025/09/11/charlie-kirk-possible-shooter-on-video-near-campus/

[TheBlackAdder]

16. It could have been a collapsible rifle fitting into the stock. The 'found' weapon might be a plant by someone else.

[TheBlackAdder]

36. Really. Hey shooter, is that a rifle in your pocket or are you glad to see CK?

Gotta be a very small long rifle.

[Irish_Dem]

5. $100,000 reward means someone will ID this guy and SOON.

[Johonny]

6. He looks sort of generic though

And the resolution isn't too good. I assume they will have a lot of people to sort through.

They never caught the Jan 6th bomber despite the video. Still, that person did a better job covering ID.

[Irish_Dem]

7. For $100K there are people who are going to ID this guy.

He did not just show up from Mars.
He has a life. School, job, family, friends, roommates, etc.
There are enough people who could ID him.

The Jan 6 bomber is a different kettle of fish.
They had a mask on. And winter clothing.
No fingerprints on the weapon found that we know of.
Not once person came forward that we know of to report a possible identity.

And it is possible that the J6 bomber is well connected and people
have covered for them.

I don't see people covering for the Kirk shooter.

[Johonny]

11. It took a while to ID the unibomber

They never caught DB Cooper despite a plane full of eye witnesses. It hard to know. The typical thing is, dude posts, brags, tells someone . . . Most criminals are stupid. They go back for the deposit on the Ryder truck.

[Irish_Dem]

12. Yes but the unibomber was much more clever, very smart.

He had a meticulous off the grid lifestyle.
Well planned and well thought out.

He was also meticulous about not leaving forensic evidence for the police to find.
He also paused for long periods of time between crimes.
And there seemed to be no connection between the victims.

The only reason he was caught is because his brother turned him in.

So far the Kirk shooter has not shown this degree of intelligence and planning.

However please note I am basing my comments on the material the FBI has released
which could be worth jackshit at this point.

[Johonny]

14. The whole thing reminds me of the Altanta bombing

And the media frenzy that followed. So much disinformation and the media rushing to judgement. Richard Jewell was crucified by the press while being innocent. Patel not helping things by feeding the press frenzy like an incompetent boob. The American media is awful, but we knew this.

[Irish_Dem]

22. Yep. FBI looks like a clown show once again.

Media is part of the circus.

And as per usual, the American people are the ones who have to be competent.
Get up every day, go to work. Get the kids off to school.

The American people are the ones who are the glue holding it all together but
get treated like crap.

[Bengus81]

28. Yeah and Jewell ended up dying young. Overweight but the stress would have been enormous

[BlueTsunami2018]

9. Right, like they'll ever pay that out.

They stiffed the person who ratted out Luigi, they’ll stiff whomever rats this guy out.

Let the cops do their own job.

[Irish_Dem]

10. Most people are naive. Not jaded like we are.

We know the informants will get stiffed.
But they don't know it yet.

FYI part of the cops' job is to get witnesses and informants.

[BlueTsunami2018]

21. I subscribe to George Carlin's philosophy about the police.

They’re not our friends and we should never ever help them.

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[sop]

31. He looks like Luigi Mangione.

[BlueTsunami2018]

43. Maybe it's the same guy who did both.

You never know.

[sop]

44. Luigi's a patsy?

[BlueTsunami2018]

45. I don't know.

I do know he was shooting pool with me when it happened. 🙃

[madinmaryland]

18. What does his shirt say? Looks like a flag with someone on it.

[ananda]

19. Yeah, I was wondering who that was too.

anyone?

[muriel_volestrangler]

23. I wondered if it's a bird with an outstretched wing

Not obviously a bald eagle - I can't see any white for the head - which is what you might expect in front of a US flag.

Looks like people have found it - it is a bald eagle, with its head dipped:

https://www.facebook.com/ChristinaAguayoNews/posts/breakingnews-the-suspect-appears-to-be-wearing-this-shirtsold-from-the-disabled-/1308093914022219/

'Land of the Free' above the picture, 'Home of the Brave' below it. Eagle's head is just below the bottom right corner of the 'stars' section of the flag.

[NickB79]

20. Not a chance in hell he has a Mauser in his pants

A .30-06 Mauser bolt action has a 22-26" barrel, and almost certainly had a scope mounted as well. It's a gun over 3' long.

[Irish_Dem]

24. Even very short men have an average outseam of 36 inches.

Outseam is measurement of waist to ankle.

A man who is only 5 ft 6 will have 3 feet length from waist to ankle.

A man 6ft 2 will have 43 inch outseam.

I just measured my outseam and it is 36 inches exactly.
And I am a petite short woman, though I admit I am short waisted.
My length is in my legs. So I could hide this gun wearing roomy trousers?

But I don't know how well I could walk with it, especially up and down stairs.

We would have to try it out to see.

I assume there are removable scopes?

[underpants]

26. The pics on the stairs negate that to my eye.

[Irish_Dem]

35. My point is that it is theoretically possible. To counter those who say it is not.

Whether that is what this guy did or not, IDK.

So it does not look like he had the rifle hidden in his pants?
By your visual observations?
So where was his gun?

[underpants]

42. That I don't know. Pre-planted somewhere?

[Kaleva]

30. How would he walk without being able to bend his knee?

It’d be like trying to walk with a 3 foot 2x4 stuck down a pants leg.

[Irish_Dem]

37. We would have to run a little experiment.

We need a tallish man use a yardstick to test out our theory.

You are right, I could be wrong.

I was just refuting the comment that it is not possible in terms of measurements.
It is possible in terms of measurements alone.
But does not take into account the dynamic of walking up and down stairs.

I wonder if he took the gun apart somehow.

[Kaleva]

39. A 30-06 rifle weighs about 6 lbs and is about 42" long

The imprint would be quite noticeable.

However, it’s quite possible that he had the gun broken down

[Irish_Dem]

40. Even with a large man wearing baggy paints?

It is a major problem that we don't see video of a man carrying a gun up and down the stairs.

[underpants]

27. I agree. The pics on the stairs don't coincide with the pants leg thing.

[yellowcanine]

25. And the cellphone has transgender markings on it!

See, I can play this game. Reminds me of of the Boston Marathon bombing, where the internet sleuths were naming suspects all over the place.

[Vogon_Glory]

29. I confess that I find the manhunt entertaining

I tried not to pay much attention to Charlie Kirk while he was alive, but the released video and the please by Donald John’s FBI for the public’s assistance has been fascinating. I can’t help but wonder how much more distraction Kirk’s murderer is going to provide before he gets caught.

If he gets caught.

A shout-out to any right-wing lurkers reading this post: if Joe Biden’s FBI and ADF were still in place instead of being gutted by Donald John what’s-his-name, I don’t doubt that the killer would be much closer to getting caught.

[tetedur]

32. If you are planning to kill someone, leave your cell phone at home.

I could never figure out why they all have to have their phone with them. I guess before or afterwards you have to immediately check TicTok to pass the time.

[The Madcap]

33. Two other details.

The shoes. I had read that they determined he was wearing Converse tennis shoes based on tread patterns. If true, the photos seem to verify this.

Also, the hat is kind of odd. Is that just a triangle, or is there some writing on it. While a boring design, it's not something many people would go out of their way to buy. Not like, say, a Yankees hat. I can't imagine many of his hat being out in the wild.

[Jilly_in_VA]

34. That's what KashYAP wants you to believe

I hope the shooter is D.B. Cooper.

[Liberal In Texas]

38. If the guy went to the trouble of planning an assination, he might have had brains enough to turn his phone off.

Or remove the battery like they do on TV.

[Oeditpus Rex]

41. 'Law & Order: Democratic Underground Unit'

What's Benson and the squad got that we don't, hah?