Kirk assassination an inside job by Trump over Epstein

[NNguyenMD]

Completely plausible theory

[Blues Heron]

1. Could be, wouldn't put it past them.

[DingleBerryNW]

2. You are not alone with your theory

TrumpCo will do anything/everything to protect Trump.

[yellow dahlia]

3. Too many convenient coincidences.

It accomplishes several things at once.

Deflects from Epstein.
Eliminate Kirk.
Warns others who may question the dear leader.
Stokes division.
Creates an excuse for the next level of take over (eg: martial law).

[tinrobot]

4. He's also the only person in the US who is immune from prosecution

Thanks, Supreme Court

[Fozzledick]

5. Could it be it was ordered by the same guy who put the hit on Epstein?

Oh, yeah, you already said that.

[bucolic_frolic]

6. Very Machiavellian

But Old Niccolo was observing the Borgias who did any deed to strengthen the power of their State.

[NoRethugFriends]

8. Is everybody just trying to make shit up?

[Fiendish Thingy]

9. Completely Kooky Nonsense without a shred of logic or evidence.

Trump ordered the hit on Kirk to shift media attention off of Epstein?

Kooky Nonsense.

[Abolishinist]

13. I don't visit those sites,

but I wonder, do reich-wingers stop by DU and post OP's such as this on their sites?

[Fiendish Thingy]

20. Ever heard of QAnon?

Of course RWers post Kooky Nonsense on their sites.

[Abolishinist]

21. Well yeah, I know about QAnon.

I just wondered if they linked Kooky Nonsense from DU specifically on their sites - you know, to make fun of us.

Because the notion that fRump had anything to do with this is beyond risible. To believe otherwise is, well, Kooky.

[Fiendish Thingy]

23. I'm sure DU is mocked regularly on the RW sites

Just as we mock them.

[pcdb]

22. If he was trying to distract from Epstein, why target a Republican? Doesn't make any sense at all.

This isn't even the most non-sensical theory I've seen today.

[MrWowWow]

29. DICKtator tr💩mp Approved THIS tr💩mpstein Distraction

Eventually, tr💩mp will get to the end of that road...Those 1000+ rape survivors will get their client list together soon. Then, tr💩mp's role in epstein's sex trafficking-blackmail business will become shockingly clear and obvious to all.

[SheilaAnn]

10. Open airport a few miles away takes off...n/t

[Major Nikon]

24. Why wouldn't it?

The narrative around the plane was created by someone who obviously knows shit from beans about aviation and the plane’s owner and pilots are now getting terrorized by cranks.

[usonian]

11. Criminals repeat.

There was a car van bombing of the WTC in 1993.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/1993_World_Trade_Center_bombing

Ramzi Yousef and associates

We observe the follow-up today.

Trump had a suicide sniper graze him.

It (may have) won him an election. Nothing is beneath him. He is selling the entire country to Putin.

We observe the follow-up today. Epstein is so big it's "worth" martyring SOMEONE ELSE.

I just hear that Mr. Kirk recently spoke in Visalia Ca. and was completely safe. That's red territory but also part of the California Republic.

This one got away. I am sure that everyone is suspect except white male gun owners.

Criminals repeat.

The fall guys change.

[RockRaven]

12. Could be many different types of internecine RWer stuff.

We shall see what slop the FBI expects everyone to swallow shortly.

[BootinUp]

14. More like a hypothesis. nt

[AZJonnie]

15. If it is 'inside', I think it's for much more serious and nefarious goals than taking Epstein off the front page

I don't think IQ47 feels any danger re: Epstein apart from damage to his reputation. I don't get why anyone thinks he'd be soooo scared about Epstein, now of all times? He previously got thru 4 years of Biden's DoJ having the docs (plus however long in the Obama admin), and he now controls the docs. He controls the authorities who might file charges, or talk about it, all of whom know they'd be instantly fired if they opened their mouth, and probably be attacked by the cultists as well. He knows said cult will never abandon him. He also knows he has the majority in both houses swinging from his sack. He also knows he weasels out of consequences for his misdeeds, almost literally 99% of the time.

I'm not sure about much in this case, but one thing I'm nearly certain of is it has nothing to do with Epstein, unless perhaps the shooter read that Kirk wanted the docs released and got mad at him for not properly kowtowing to Dear Leader.

[meadowlander]

27. Agree. Is it a coincidence that Stephen Miller called Democrats a terrorist organisation,

Trump starts putting out of state National guard troops in blue cities and then suddenly a loathesome little dime a dozen internet toad is martyred giving them an excuse to target Democrats even further?

For the person up-thread who doesn't understand why they would kill a Republican these people are all rats in a heap scrambling for their 15 seconds on top. None of them would blink an eye at sacrificing one of their own to further their goals.

Nick Fuentes and the other white Nationalists hated Charlie Kirk. One of them could easily have done it to spark the race war they think is inevitable.

https://theconversation.com/a-field-guide-to-accelerationism-white-supremacist-groups-using-violence-to-spur-race-war-and-create-social-chaos-255699

[AZJonnie]

30. This dude was not a low level internet toad, he was popular enough for 3,000 people to show up to hear him

And he tours all over the world (recruiting fascists). He's made a lot of money, and there's vigils going on all over the country and world even. A lot of people liked him and liked him a lot. He's a reasonably major player, and TPUSA is major group. Bigger/more influential than Joe Rogan, but not at the level of Limbaugh in his heyday, at least in name recognition.

Anyways what I really meant to mention is that if it was based on some rival white nationalist, it could have been not to start a race war, but rather to just try to take his open spot atop the dunghill. But I really don't think that's it.

99% of the time, the perp is some kind of disgruntled loner type, and it's not some wild conspiracy.

At this point probably safe to assume the person is white, cis, young, and likely not an immigrant. These are all 'good' in the sense that his is the least marginalized group in this country. Further from what I heard that shirt he was wearing is not any sort of liberal identity shirt, in fact it may be associated with a disabled veterans group. It may have nothing to do with 'who he is', it's just a shirt but this is also preferable to see vs, say a Code Pink shirt.

In terms of calming down this country, optimally it turns out that the shooter is someone who had a personal reason to be angry about things Kirk has said. Maybe they are themselves a survivor of gun violence, or lost a loved one to gun violence and felt Kirk personally was responsible. Maybe they are ex-military, a sniper perhaps, with known untreated PTSD. But I think time is running out on it being a military person because military keeps good records, and given a shot like this, the military would be the first place they'd be sending the photos and doing facial recognition.

The last thing I want is for this to be "one of us", who has made some kind of written statement that he hates Trump, Kirk, and has espoused violence towards people on the right. That would be very bad. He sure as shit didn't act in my name, I can tell you that. This is NOT the sort of person I want to be associated with. I'm liberal, but I am not "far left".

[Crunchy Frog]

33. People on this site need to get over their naive belief that there are any limits at all to what Trump and his cronies

are capable of. We need to look at the worst regimes in history and realize that these people seek to emulate the worst aspects of them. And there's very little left in the way of institutions or safeguards that are going to stop them.

Engineering assassinations to create martyrs, whip people up into a murderous frenzy, and create pretexts for mass repression and political violence, are all par for the course, and many, many historical examples can be found. Don't keep holding on to the idea that "it can't happen here".

[Crunchy Frog]

32. I agree. It was for other, worse reasons.

[H2O Man]

16. There are numerous people

who do not want the Epstein files released.

[orangecrush]

17. No

[CanonRay]

18. I don't believe this shooter will ever be found.

I think he's out of the country.

[viva la]

19. After all, he transferred a sexual assaulter to a minimum security prison--

where she can assault younger inmates, not to mention walk away from the prison.

[GoodRaisin]

25. Good as any other theory. Nobody knows anything.

But we do know that Krasnov has had others murdered, like the 11 in that boat, for example.

[markodochartaigh]

26. I personally doubt that it was some

kind of false flag event. But the reich-wing is sure milking it for everything that it's worth. I follow a few French instagram page and this morning it seems to be blowing up online there. Also there was a candlelight vigil last evening here in SW Florida, very well attended, and by young people who never seem to show up to the few Democratic protests here. Madison Cawthorn said that Kirk was a combination of Billy Graham and Rush Limbaugh. It reminds me of when the Gaza protests took off. Maybe the same kind of social media manipulation.

[Celerity]

28. De rec. This is dodgy, fringe CT.

[Crunchy Frog]

31. I'm not sure it was over Epstein, but I'm suspecting it was an inside job.

People in this admin have been chomping at the bit to violently crush their political opposition, and they think that this will give them the opportunity. In the end, I think that agenda is a far bigger one than that of distracting from the Epstein files.