Welcome to DU! The truly grassroots left-of-center political community where regular people, not algorithms, drive the discussions and set the standards. Join the community: Create a free account Support DU (and get rid of ads!): Become a Star Member Latest Breaking News Editorials & Other Articles General Discussion The DU Lounge All Forums Issue Forums Culture Forums Alliance Forums Region Forums Support Forums Help & Search

Wicked Blue

(9,022 posts)
Thu Sep 11, 2025, 08:55 PM Sep 2025

Let the witch hunt begin: Matthew Dowd's firing begins flood of people facing consequences for their comments on Kirk's

This is insane - the MAGAfascists are going after people who made negative comments about the Charlie Kirk killing.

NEW YORK (AP) — Matthew Dowd opened a floodgate.

The MSNBC political analyst, who lost his job shortly after on-air comments about conservative activist Charlie Kirk’s assassination, was the first of many figures to face consequences Thursday for public statements or actions about the shooting.

Indeed, raw feelings about the killing have ignited a campaign to shame — and more. Several conservative activists sought to identify social media users whose posts about Kirk they viewed as offensive or celebratory. Right-wing influencer Laura Loomer said she would try to ruin the professional aspirations of anyone who celebrated Kirk’s death.

-snip-

A Florida reporter was suspended for a question posed to a congressman. A comic book writer lost her job because of social media posts, as did educators in Mississippi and Tennessee. “CBS Mornings” host Nate Burleson was attacked for a question. An Arizona sports reporter and a Carolina Panthers public relations official both lost jobs.

https://apnews.com/article/dowd-msnbc-kirk-comments-e08f349022c9d69171cd575664141075
16 replies = new reply since forum marked as read
Highlight: NoneDon't highlight anything 5 newestHighlight 5 most recent replies
Let the witch hunt begin: Matthew Dowd's firing begins flood of people facing consequences for their comments on Kirk's (Original Post) Wicked Blue Sep 2025 OP
The thought police will make us comply. Irish_Dem Sep 2025 #1
This country J-9 Sep 2025 #2
Inverted Totalitarianism MaineBlueBear Sep 2025 #3
A definition MaineBlueBear Sep 2025 #5
The Nazi mentality in this country is spreading fast. Blues Heron Sep 2025 #4
Wait, I thought MAGA was against Cancel Culture? Fiendish Thingy Sep 2025 #6
It's in full gear, cuts across ideology, only cult loyalty to Dear Leader counts. Faux cut Howard KURTZ UTUSN Sep 2025 #14
The media be like: "LEAVE CHARLIE ALONE!!!!!" RedWhiteBlueIsRacist Sep 2025 #7
Cancel culture? mzmolly Sep 2025 #8
Yeah, I thought they really, really hated that. tanyev Sep 2025 #12
Me too! mzmolly Sep 2025 #16
The hypocrisy is staggering VMA131Marine Sep 2025 #9
JFC this guy was a POS. It's not "too soon" unless you fail to worship underpants Sep 2025 #10
Visability UTUSN Sep 2025 #13
How people can watch MSNBC when this is the level of control TPTB exert over content RockRaven Sep 2025 #11
Why are we always held to a higher standard? Baitball Blogger Sep 2025 #15

MaineBlueBear

(457 posts)
5. A definition
Thu Sep 11, 2025, 09:07 PM
Sep 2025

Inverted totalitarianism is different from classical forms of totalitarianism. It does not find its expression in a demagogue or charismatic leader but in the faceless anonymity of the corporate state. Our inverted totalitarianism pays outward fealty to the facade of electoral politics, the Constitution, civil liberties, freedom of the press, the independence of the judiciary, and the iconography, traditions and language of American patriotism, but it has effectively seized all of the mechanisms of power to render the citizen impotent.

“Unlike the Nazis, who made life uncertain for the wealthy and privileged while providing social programs for the working class and poor, inverted totalitarianism exploits the poor, reducing or weakening health programs and social services, regimenting mass education for an insecure workforce threatened by the importation of low-wage workers,” Wolin writes. “Employment in a high-tech, volatile, and globalized economy is normally as precarious as during an old-fashioned depression. The result is that citizenship, or what remains of it, is practiced amidst a continuing state of worry. Hobbes had it right: when citizens are insecure and at the same time driven by competitive aspirations, they yearn for political stability rather than civic engagement, protection rather than political involvement.”

Inverted totalitarianism, Wolin said when we met at his home in Salem, Ore., in 2014 to film a nearly three-hour interview, constantly “projects power upwards.” It is “the antithesis of constitutional power.” It is designed to create instability to keep a citizenry off balance and passive.

He writes, “Downsizing, reorganization, bubbles bursting, unions busted, quickly outdated skills, and transfer of jobs abroad create not just fear but an economy of fear, a system of control whose power feeds on uncertainty, yet a system that, according to its analysts, is eminently rational.”

https://www.truthdig.com/articles/sheldon-wolin-and-inverted-totalitarianism/

UTUSN

(77,795 posts)
14. It's in full gear, cuts across ideology, only cult loyalty to Dear Leader counts. Faux cut Howard KURTZ
Thu Sep 11, 2025, 10:04 PM
Sep 2025

because KRASNOV called for him to retire over KURTZ's occasional criticisms, and Faux has replaced him and demoted him to side podcast. No tears for him but it's the KRASNOV thing.




VMA131Marine

(5,336 posts)
9. The hypocrisy is staggering
Thu Sep 11, 2025, 09:14 PM
Sep 2025

I don’t recall any of these people condemning Alex Jones for calling Sandy Hook a hoax and the kids “crisis actors.” And he wasn’t alone.

RockRaven

(19,755 posts)
11. How people can watch MSNBC when this is the level of control TPTB exert over content
Thu Sep 11, 2025, 09:21 PM
Sep 2025

is mindboggling. That was some of the most anodyne milquetoast nothing that Dowd said, and they won't even let you hear that. Yet people fall all over themselves to line up at the trough for their slop daily, and go out of their way to pass it on to others like it is some precious secret truth.

Baitball Blogger

(52,725 posts)
15. Why are we always held to a higher standard?
Thu Sep 11, 2025, 11:09 PM
Sep 2025

It’s time we demand an equal standard of judgment and justice!

Kick in to the DU tip jar?

This week we're running a special pop-up mini fund drive. From Monday through Friday we're going ad-free for all registered members, and we're asking you to kick in to the DU tip jar to support the site and keep us financially healthy.

As a bonus, making a contribution will allow you to leave kudos for another DU member, and at the end of the week we'll recognize the DUers who you think make this community great.

Tell me more...

Latest Discussions»General Discussion»Let the witch hunt begin:...