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Tanuki

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Damage is done Pisces Sep 2025 #1
yeah BlueWaveNeverEnd Sep 2025 #18
As intended. yardwork Sep 2025 #30
Jfc SheltieLover Sep 2025 #2
So Canada has committed an act of war, now? bluedigger Sep 2025 #3
Transgender symbols are law enforcement's new "touched fentanyl and fell over dead" hysteria. RockRaven Sep 2025 #4
It's LE's new "satanic symbols." yardwork Sep 2025 #31
Unbelievable (i.e., unbelievable in any world outside the 47 regime. For the regime, sounds like pretty much on par ). pat_k Sep 2025 #5
TY for this valuable Information... Cha Sep 2025 #6
Some cops and FBI rzemanfl Sep 2025 #7
JFC orangecrush Sep 2025 #8
Oh, they knew exactly what they were doing. Spreading hate and lies are their core competencies. still-prayin4rain Sep 2025 #9
Unfucking believable. Baitball Blogger Sep 2025 #10
The bulletin came out of the ATF, but yeas, FBI was complicit in not shutting it down Prairie Gates Sep 2025 #25
Throw away all your transgender ammo. Qutzupalotl Sep 2025 #11
Kick dalton99a Sep 2025 #12
Who knew there was an munitions company that supports transgender idiology? PurgedVoter Sep 2025 #13
If you own guns, you are in danger of catching "the gay" Bluetus Sep 2025 #20
Hey magats, better keep your powder dry in those woke bullets! RedWhiteBlueIsRacist Sep 2025 #14
I am reminded of an incident about symbol ignorance that happened MANY years niyad Sep 2025 #15
Remember when Proctor and Gamble kept getting accused Tanuki Sep 2025 #21
Yes, I do. My favourite part of that hysterical nonsense was where niyad Sep 2025 #23
That was a scam by Amway members to damage their competitor muriel_volestrangler Sep 2025 #29
Yes, it was Amway. yardwork Sep 2025 #32
Beat me to it! obamanut2012 Sep 2025 #44
They damn near shut down Boston when a street artist who tiles space invaders on surfaces Prairie Gates Sep 2025 #26
What a bunch of incompetent fucking clowns! Jim__ Sep 2025 #16
It sounds like amateur hour at the FBI because it totally is IronLionZion Sep 2025 #17
Wait, you mean they didn't really have George Soros's signature on them? NBachers Sep 2025 #19
Who needs Russian disinformation bots when we have the Trump administration? SunSeeker Sep 2025 #22
This one seems like a motivated "mistake" Prairie Gates Sep 2025 #24
I was struggling with that, myself. yardwork Sep 2025 #33
The only thing I can think of is the three arrows down symbol Prairie Gates Sep 2025 #36
ATF is a DOGE target. Lot of ATF fired, reassigned. yellowcanine Sep 2025 #27
Is there any source other than this tweet? sl8 Sep 2025 #28
I think you're missing the point. yardwork Sep 2025 #34
No, I just don't believe unsubstantiated reports from either side. sl8 Sep 2025 #35
"Either side" is right wing talk. yardwork Sep 2025 #37
OK. I don't believe "either claim", without substantiation. nt sl8 Sep 2025 #39
That's reasonable. yardwork Sep 2025 #40
they see symbols of their hatred everywhere they look bigtree Sep 2025 #38
Projection is a trait of personality disorders. yardwork Sep 2025 #41
Has WSJ issued a retraction? Mysterian Sep 2025 #42
The press conference (live now) is describing inscribed cartridges confoosed Sep 2025 #43

Pisces

(6,248 posts)
1. Damage is done
Thu Sep 11, 2025, 10:08 PM
Sep 2025

BlueWaveNeverEnd

(14,272 posts)
18. yeah
Fri Sep 12, 2025, 12:09 AM
Sep 2025

yardwork

(69,370 posts)
30. As intended.
Fri Sep 12, 2025, 08:09 AM
Sep 2025

SheltieLover

(80,527 posts)
2. Jfc
Thu Sep 11, 2025, 10:08 PM
Sep 2025

Magat morans.

bluedigger

(17,438 posts)
3. So Canada has committed an act of war, now?
Thu Sep 11, 2025, 10:09 PM
Sep 2025

Those fools. Don't they know we are already staging in Chicago and Boston? It's all about the poutine.

RockRaven

(19,398 posts)
4. Transgender symbols are law enforcement's new "touched fentanyl and fell over dead" hysteria.
Thu Sep 11, 2025, 10:10 PM
Sep 2025

They are ignorant and bigoted and see their new bogeyman everywhere, and run with it at the drop of a hat.

Reminder: ACAB means feds, civilian investigators, prosecutors, everyone in the process, not just pedantically municipal police officers.

yardwork

(69,370 posts)
31. It's LE's new "satanic symbols."
Fri Sep 12, 2025, 08:10 AM
Sep 2025

pat_k

(13,393 posts)
5. Unbelievable (i.e., unbelievable in any world outside the 47 regime. For the regime, sounds like pretty much on par ).
Thu Sep 11, 2025, 10:10 PM
Sep 2025

Unfortunately, in the 47 regime, whoever pulled the bullshit out of their ass and put it in a report will undoubtedly be promoted.

Cha

(319,139 posts)
6. TY for this valuable Information...
Thu Sep 11, 2025, 10:11 PM
Sep 2025

rzemanfl

(31,393 posts)
7. Some cops and FBI
Thu Sep 11, 2025, 10:12 PM
Sep 2025

folks had to have turned a blind eye to this stupidity.

orangecrush

(30,336 posts)
8. JFC
Thu Sep 11, 2025, 10:30 PM
Sep 2025

still-prayin4rain

(525 posts)
9. Oh, they knew exactly what they were doing. Spreading hate and lies are their core competencies.
Thu Sep 11, 2025, 10:36 PM
Sep 2025

Baitball Blogger

(52,361 posts)
10. Unfucking believable.
Thu Sep 11, 2025, 10:37 PM
Sep 2025

This level of ignorance and unprofessionalism in the FBI is just cringe.

Prairie Gates

(8,180 posts)
25. The bulletin came out of the ATF, but yeas, FBI was complicit in not shutting it down
Fri Sep 12, 2025, 06:33 AM
Sep 2025

CNN should also have known better. I expect this level of nonsense from the WSJ, but we still have to accept them as a source. The various posters who were spreading this (rather gleefully) yesterday should apologize to the board.

Qutzupalotl

(15,827 posts)
11. Throw away all your transgender ammo.
Thu Sep 11, 2025, 10:39 PM
Sep 2025

dalton99a

(94,208 posts)
12. Kick
Thu Sep 11, 2025, 11:01 PM
Sep 2025

PurgedVoter

(2,715 posts)
13. Who knew there was an munitions company that supports transgender idiology?
Thu Sep 11, 2025, 11:12 PM
Sep 2025

A company so immersed in transgender ideology that their maker marks are like a manifesto. Oh no, now that it is out, the maga are gonna want to boycott them.

Bluetus

(2,816 posts)
20. If you own guns, you are in danger of catching "the gay"
Fri Sep 12, 2025, 01:00 AM
Sep 2025

RedWhiteBlueIsRacist

(2,042 posts)
14. Hey magats, better keep your powder dry in those woke bullets!
Thu Sep 11, 2025, 11:37 PM
Sep 2025

niyad

(132,499 posts)
15. I am reminded of an incident about symbol ignorance that happened MANY years
Thu Sep 11, 2025, 11:57 PM
Sep 2025

ago, back in the last millenium. I was wearing an ankh, and this young man came up to me, all outraged, demanding that I get rid of the "satanic" symbol. I pointed out that it was an Egyptian symbol for eternal life, and had been in existence far longer than the christian satan. He said, "I know it's satanic, I learned it on tv!" Being me, I looked at him, and laughed, and said, "Pee Wee Herman (TOLD you it was a long time ago!!!) is also on tv. Do you believe he is real?" As he slunk off, he sneeered, "Sorry I upset you." I replied, "Oh honey, you are far too stupid and gullible to upset me." Poor, confused little idiot.

Tanuki

(16,448 posts)
21. Remember when Proctor and Gamble kept getting accused
Fri Sep 12, 2025, 01:16 AM
Sep 2025

of worshipping Satan because of a benign, old-timey logo of a man-in-the-moon and stars, which they had been using for decades before anyone freaked out over it?

niyad

(132,499 posts)
23. Yes, I do. My favourite part of that hysterical nonsense was where
Fri Sep 12, 2025, 06:21 AM
Sep 2025

the ceo supposedly went on Phil Donahue's afternoon talk show and announced that he worshiped Satan, and that all P & G profits supported Satanic efforts. Such an episode did not exist, of course.

muriel_volestrangler

(106,225 posts)
29. That was a scam by Amway members to damage their competitor
Fri Sep 12, 2025, 08:06 AM
Sep 2025
P&G wins US case on Satanic slurs

The Devil is not in league with global consumer brand Procter & Gamble, a US court has ruled.
P&G won a $19m (£9.7m) lawsuit against four distributors of rival Amway over rumours tying it to Satanism.

The court concluded a 12-year lawsuit in P&G's favour, after it ruled that the four had spread a false accusation that P&G subsidised Satanic cults.

The case is one of several unfair competition suits P&G has brought refuting the Satanism slurs.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/6471373.stm

If something looks unbelievably stupid, then there's probably something more to it, and profit is most likely.

yardwork

(69,370 posts)
32. Yes, it was Amway.
Fri Sep 12, 2025, 08:12 AM
Sep 2025

And P&G dropped the moon and stars logo, which I thought was kind of sad.

obamanut2012

(29,371 posts)
44. Beat me to it!
Fri Sep 12, 2025, 10:17 AM
Sep 2025

Prairie Gates

(8,180 posts)
26. They damn near shut down Boston when a street artist who tiles space invaders on surfaces
Fri Sep 12, 2025, 06:35 AM
Sep 2025

had a space invader tile mistaken for a terrorist symbol (for some reason). Both the police and the journalists who spout their nonsense need to be better trained and we need a closer selection process because many of them seem to be idiots.

Jim__

(15,224 posts)
16. What a bunch of incompetent fucking clowns!
Fri Sep 12, 2025, 12:08 AM
Sep 2025

IronLionZion

(51,280 posts)
17. It sounds like amateur hour at the FBI because it totally is
Fri Sep 12, 2025, 12:09 AM
Sep 2025

they fired anyone who was qualified because they failed some idiotic "loyalty test" or they were too DEI or whatever.

NBachers

(19,444 posts)
19. Wait, you mean they didn't really have George Soros's signature on them?
Fri Sep 12, 2025, 12:54 AM
Sep 2025

SunSeeker

(58,285 posts)
22. Who needs Russian disinformation bots when we have the Trump administration?
Fri Sep 12, 2025, 02:00 AM
Sep 2025

Prairie Gates

(8,180 posts)
24. This one seems like a motivated "mistake"
Fri Sep 12, 2025, 06:31 AM
Sep 2025

They wanted to get their ideological story out there, and they did.

It satisfied their frothing masses, including some trolls close to home (ahem), but was always likely to be bullshit, and sounded trolly and implausible. How does one engrave antifascist ideology on a bullet? The whole thing was ludicrous.

yardwork

(69,370 posts)
33. I was struggling with that, myself.
Fri Sep 12, 2025, 08:15 AM
Sep 2025

It's not at all clear to me what symbol or few words could possibly convey such a message.

Prairie Gates

(8,180 posts)
36. The only thing I can think of is the three arrows down symbol
Fri Sep 12, 2025, 09:09 AM
Sep 2025

But honestly, the whole thing is goofy.

yellowcanine

(36,795 posts)
27. ATF is a DOGE target. Lot of ATF fired, reassigned.
Fri Sep 12, 2025, 06:35 AM
Sep 2025

The “transgender markings”. Nonsense likely came from some political stooge. Kind of like “MS-13 tattoos.”

sl8

(17,110 posts)
28. Is there any source other than this tweet?
Fri Sep 12, 2025, 06:41 AM
Sep 2025

Is this just this particular poster's hypothesis, or is there more? The images he included, other than the top left one, come from sources unrelated to the shooting. Apparently he's just using them as examples of different headstamps.

I believe this is where the photo in the lower right came from(ca. 2023):
https://forum.cartridgecollectors.org/t/headstamp-inquiry-on-30-06-cartridge/53509

The bits about about the Canadian & UK headstamps are on the Wikipedia page on military headstamps:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_military_headstamps

yardwork

(69,370 posts)
34. I think you're missing the point.
Fri Sep 12, 2025, 08:19 AM
Sep 2025

There's no evidence whatsoever that bullet casings supposedly found at the scene have "pro-trans and anti-fascist" words on them. Nobody in authority has released any photos or any evidence for this whatsoever.

Despite the lack evidence, the news media ran with this story.

Somebody on the internet is pointing out that bullets have manufacturers symbols. Maybe that's the source of the story. Or maybe it's all just a made up lie.

What would a "pro transgender and anti-fascist ideology" symbol look like to you? I am at a loss. I don't think there's any such thing.

sl8

(17,110 posts)
35. No, I just don't believe unsubstantiated reports from either side.
Fri Sep 12, 2025, 08:31 AM
Sep 2025

I don't believe unsubstantiated reports that there *were* transgender symbols found on the cases and I don't believe unsubstantiated reports about how those reports got started.

Maybe this twitter poster is just posting a hypothesis. That's fine, I've heard worse. Could even be true. But from the tone, it sounds like they're stating a fact and many of the thread replies seem to accept it as fact.

As far as what those hypothetical transgender symbols look like "to me", I have no fucking clue. If you've gotten the impression that I believe those initial reports, then you are mistaken.

On edit:
As far as the sources I provided in my post, I added those later, after reading some replies that seemed to think that they were from this case, rather than unrelated examples found on the internet.

yardwork

(69,370 posts)
37. "Either side" is right wing talk.
Fri Sep 12, 2025, 09:12 AM
Sep 2025

There is no "either side" here.

sl8

(17,110 posts)
39. OK. I don't believe "either claim", without substantiation. nt
Fri Sep 12, 2025, 09:27 AM
Sep 2025

yardwork

(69,370 posts)
40. That's reasonable.
Fri Sep 12, 2025, 09:42 AM
Sep 2025

bigtree

(94,289 posts)
38. they see symbols of their hatred everywhere they look
Fri Sep 12, 2025, 09:13 AM
Sep 2025

yardwork

(69,370 posts)
41. Projection is a trait of personality disorders.
Fri Sep 12, 2025, 09:43 AM
Sep 2025

We see a lot of it with Trump and his followers.

Mysterian

(6,496 posts)
42. Has WSJ issued a retraction?
Fri Sep 12, 2025, 09:55 AM
Sep 2025

I knew the filthy fucking assholes were lying.

confoosed

(62 posts)
43. The press conference (live now) is describing inscribed cartridges
Fri Sep 12, 2025, 10:09 AM
Sep 2025
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