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Swede

(40,081 posts)
Thu Sep 11, 2025, 10:09 PM Sep 2025

US officials plan to punish foreigners 'making light of' Charlie Kirk death

That ought to scare up more tourism.


Action will be taken against foreigners in the United States who are considered to be “praising, rationalizing, or making light of” Charlie Kirk’s death, a top state department official has said.
The statement comes in a wider context of an aggressive crackdown on free speech and dissenting views in the US under the second Trump administration, especially when it comes to campus protests sparked by Israel’s war on Gaza.
In a post on X on Thursday morning, the deputy secretary of state, Christopher Landau, wrote that “foreigners who glorify violence and hatred are not welcome visitors to our country” and said he had directed consular officials to “undertake appropriate action” against those deemed to be “praising, rationalizing, or making light of” Kirk’s death on social media.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/sep/11/christopher-landau-charlie-kirk-foreigners

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Blues Heron

(9,035 posts)
1. This is naked totalitarianism- every word or, soon, thought, you have will be scrutinized.
Thu Sep 11, 2025, 10:13 PM
Sep 2025

This is a major affront to anyone who considers themself free.

newdeal2

(5,611 posts)
2. This is why they want you to upload your government ID online
Thu Sep 11, 2025, 10:16 PM
Sep 2025

Under the guise of protecting children.

No more anonymous internet pretty soon.

pat_k

(13,856 posts)
4. They will target every prominent figure on streaming services or broadcast and cable media who...
Thu Sep 11, 2025, 10:28 PM
Sep 2025

... tells the truth about this vile, misogynist, Christian Nationalist, white supremacist demagogue.

And hearing people -- even Newsom -- waxing rhapsodic about Kirk's willingness to "debate" is turning my stomach.

Gish galloping with cherry picked "facts" is not "debate" His "style" of debate was the most insidious way to lie. He "knew" only the bits of history and bible and anything else that supported his vile conclusions. He was also smart enough to know that he was creating a foundation that is a lie because it excludes 80% of reality.

When arguing with another person, he flooded them with his carefully selected bits as fast as possible, then quickly moved to a new flood of cherry-picked "facts." This "style" creates an utterly false pretense of "knowing a lot" and "winning," when in fact the person knows they are offering only bits that support their conclusions and absolutely nothing more. The object is to simply steamroll over any actual facts offered in opposition with a new flood of bullshit.

When offering his monologues, he set up and tore down carefully constructed straw man positions.

While I grieve the manner of his death as a tragic reflection of the intolerable level of gun violence in our nation – which is 11 TIMES the number of gun deaths per capita in other high-income nations, driven primarily by a firearm homicide rate that is 25 TIMES that of comparable nations* – I do not grieve the loss of a man who called for some "amazing patriot" to bail out Paul Pelosi’s attacker. I do not grieve the loss of a man who was hellbent on making sure this nation did NOTHING to reduce the number of gun deaths.

*2015 data

Attilatheblond

(9,249 posts)
5. Can't shut American Citizens up due to 1st Amendment, so he's gonna go be nasty to foreigners?
Thu Sep 11, 2025, 10:35 PM
Sep 2025

He's always looking for ways to punch down. What a poor excuse for a man.

Liberal In Texas

(16,431 posts)
6. Foreigners are also protected by our Constitution.
Fri Sep 12, 2025, 06:42 AM
Sep 2025

Of course, when has that stopped him from breaking the law?

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